CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[lmjiao]

Pardon, but why on 9.28 ??? What's so special with this date?

By the way, I thought 003 construction has indeed already started in July?

I guess there might be some ceremony onthat day.

 

[samsara]

Your last sentence and your general argument contradict themselves. It's obvious that you're implying that all Chinese intellectuals are of Han origin ... something that isn't true. The Chinese have no shame but are proud of being led by non-Han individuals such as Kangxi ... but a falsely documented article about an Ukrainian engineer being hired is pathetically obvious. It is crystal clear that the author(s) this fake news had the intent of discrediting Chinese engineers ... you and other ppl should know that China's carrier program does not rely on foreign engineers! If they haven't in the last ten years, then why should they now? Use your brain ...

PS: Just because ppl have Han surnames does not mean they're exclusively Han; most ethnic minorities adopted Han names ...

@Figaro - the flaw in your post is... since you boldly repeat that line then it stands to be corrected.

It's the nation's own largest daily, The People's Daily 人民日报 that carries such news (check first if you aren't familiar with what's it)... so to say that the most referred news source there carries a fake news to discredit own engineers is simply too much to swallow...

I know @Deino posted a facebook post done by someone else said about the interview with the Babich himself refuted such association... but at the end it's one source versus the other, we may not know the truth... so at best just put it under the grey area... but no need to shout out the implied line that The People's Daily carries fake news to downgrade own nation...for it'll be too funny to digest... and will require good explanation on WHY??? So let's move on and just keep the news aside unless new info is made available.

 

[grey boy 2]

@Figaro - the flaw in your post is... since you boldly repeat that line then it stands to be corrected.

It's the nation's own largest daily, The People's Daily 人民日报 that carries such news (check first if you aren't familiar with what's it)... so to say that the most referred news source there carries a fake news to discredit own engineers is simply too much to swallow...

I know @Deino posted a facebook post done by someone else said about the interview with the Babich himself refuted such association... but at the end it's one source versus the other, we may not know the truth... so at best just put it under the grey area... but no need to shout out the implied line that The People's Daily carries fake news to downgrade own nation...for it'll be too funny to digest... and will require good explanation on WHY??? So let's move on and just keep the news aside unless new info is made available.

I'm with you on this matter, just doesn't seems logic and almost impossible for the official media of China posting "faked news" that may lead to being a laughing stock world wide

 

[Figaro]

@Figaro - the flaw in your post is... since you boldly repeat that line then it stands to be corrected.

It's the nation's own largest daily, The People's Daily 人民日报 that carries such news (check first if you aren't familiar with what's it)... so to say that the most referred news source there carries a fake news to discredit own engineers is simply too much to swallow...

I know @Deino posted a facebook post done by someone else said about the interview with the Babich himself refuted such association... but at the end it's one source versus the other, we may not know the truth... so at best just put it under the grey area... but no need to shout out the implied line that The People's Daily carries fake news to downgrade own nation...for it'll be too funny to digest... and will require good explanation on WHY??? So let's move on and just keep the news aside unless new info is made available.

Chinese state media posts inaccurate stuff all the time ... Global Times article. Since when were J-20s part of the Bayi Acrobatic team ? I'm not saying People's Daily posts fake news or anything, but it can be inaccurate.

PS: The People's Daily article does not directly acknowledge or confirm these rumors, saying that only it "was widely circulated among Chinese military enthusiasts". And you just acknowledged that Mr.Babich himself even refuted this rumor; then what more is there to talk about? At best, it was an inaccuracy and at worst, it was slander. Simple.

I'm with you on this matter, just doesn't seems logic and almost impossible for the official media of China posting "faked news" that may lead to being a laughing stock world wide

Inaccuracies sometimes can occur ... as with the Global Times article posted above ^^^. And remember the infamous CCTV Top Gun incident? Even official PRC media is not immune to these trivial inaccuracies. And just like above, the PD article did not confirm these rumors, merely stating that they were being circulated. Even the most highly respected papers in the US make obvious mistakes from time to time; no shame in being inaccurate.

 

[waja2000]

I recall reading the previous posts somewhere perhaps in this thread that steel cutting was kicked off at the end of June 2017, in JNCX shipyard. Unless the start of construction has other meaning than the steel cutting.

That steel cutting as rumours said is 075 LPH.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That steel cutting as rumours said is 075 LPH.

The Type 075 LPH belongs to HDZH, not JNCX.

 

[aliaselin]

That steel cutting as rumours said is 075 LPH.

Surely not.

 

[Figaro]

I don't know why some ppl believe that the PLAN has just begun steel cutting in June. That would imply a commissioning date in the mid 2020s! Surely, the Chinese are more prudent than letting themselves be without a CATOBAR carrier for the next 10 years? Pop3 already said that the 003 began construction along with the 002 (former 001a) back in early 2014. In this case, he probably was referring to steel cutting rather than module assembly. Pop3's rumor was confirmed by CSSC in March 2015, which stated that steel cutting for the 3rd aircraft carrier (003) had already begun. The real construction was supposed to start in 2016 but was delayed due to competition between EMALs and Steam (the former won eventually). Now, we should see the assembly of the 003 relatively soon as steel cutting and delivery of parts are completed ... which would imply a launch date in 2019 if things go smoothly

 

[lmjiao]

I don't know why some ppl believe that the PLAN has just begun steel cutting in June. That would imply a commissioning date in the mid 2020s! Surely, the Chinese are more prudent than letting themselves be without a CATOBAR carrier for the next 10 years? Pop3 already said that the 003 began construction along with the 002 (former 001a) back in early 2014. In this case, he probably was referring to steel cutting rather than module assembly. Pop3's rumor was confirmed by CSSC in March 2015, which stated that steel cutting for the 3rd aircraft carrier (003) had already begun. The real construction was supposed to start in 2016 but was delayed due to competition between EMALs and Steam (the former won eventually). Now, we should see the assembly of the 003 relatively soon as steel cutting and delivery of parts are completed ... which would imply a launch date in 2019 if things go smoothly

POP3 said yesterday in Haohan Forum that the construction will start recently.

pop3
2017-9-10 15:30
有可能，6月曾遇到一熟人，聊到他们在新航母上拿到X万元的合同，若现在开工也差不多，从立项时间看，也差不多了，早也早不到哪去，晚也晚不到哪去，除非方案推倒重来，那样的话估计延后的时间要以年来计了。

POP3:
It is possible. I have met a friend in June. He got a contract for the new CV construction of X0K Yuan. It seems consistent that the construction start now. From the start date of this project, it is also consistent. It won't be much earlier or much later, unless the design is totally revised, in that case it will delay in years.

Link: http://www.haohanfw.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=113723&extra=page=1&mobile=2

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I don't know why some ppl believe that the PLAN has just begun steel cutting in June. That would imply a commissioning date in the mid 2020s! Surely, the Chinese are more prudent than letting themselves be without a CATOBAR carrier for the next 10 years? Pop3 already said that the 003 began construction along with the 002 (former 001a) back in early 2014. In this case, he probably was referring to steel cutting rather than module assembly. Pop3's rumor was confirmed by CSSC in March 2015, which stated that steel cutting for the 3rd aircraft carrier (003) had already begun. The real construction was supposed to start in 2016 but was delayed due to competition between EMALs and Steam (the former won eventually). Now, we should see the assembly of the 003 relatively soon as steel cutting and delivery of parts are completed ... which would imply a launch date in 2019 if things go smoothly

Now the only remaining contest is nuclear vs non-nuclear.

 

[Figaro]

POP3 said yesterday in Haohan Forum that the construction will start recently.


POP3:
It is possible. I have met a friend in June. He got a contract for the new CV construction of X0K Yuan. It seems consistent that the construction start now. From the start date of this project, it is also consistent. It won't be much earlier or much later, unless the design is totally revised, in that case it will delay in years.

Link: http://www.haohanfw.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=113723&extra=page=1&mobile=2

Exactly. Construction as in module assembly and keel laying will start very soon. But some ppl said that only steel cutting has begun, meaning that it will take 2 more years until construction starts ... and hence they're wrong

 

[lmjiao]

Exactly. Construction as in module assembly and keel laying will start very soon. But some ppl said that only steel cutting has begun, meaning that it will take 2 more years until construction starts ... and hence they're wrong

OK, thanks. Now I understand.

 

[星海军事]

I don't know why some ppl believe that the PLAN has just begun steel cutting in June. That would imply a commissioning date in the mid 2020s!

Pop3 already said that the 003 began construction along with the 002 (former 001a) back in early 2014.

Pop3's rumor was confirmed by CSSC in March 2015, which stated that steel cutting for the 3rd aircraft carrier (003) had already begun.

The real construction was supposed to start in 2016 but was delayed due to competition between EMALs and Steam (the former won eventually).

Now, we should see the assembly of the 003 relatively soon as steel cutting and delivery of parts are completed ...

None of these make sense.

 

[lmjiao]

None of these make sense.

I saw your posts in other forums. I think your idea is that Type 003 started construction 2 months ago. Is that right?

 

[Figaro]

None of these make sense.

Because you can't comprehend English?!? Or have you not been up-to-date on Chinese carrier matters? If you are, my posts would make perfect sense.