Cuba shows Israel the mirror

[Reichsmarschall]

not after the unapologetic violence of the 1947

was it our mistake to ask for a separate homeland?

If You do not like International Law, you should do something about it.

and what should we call a county who have violated around 70 UN resolutions?

 

[PeaceGen]

Did you ever check these stories for accuracy or do you rest content with "narratives" that paint Israel in negative colors?

I work with mass-media and military press releases only. Not with conspiracy or other nonsense as input to calculate with.

But i do not keep files as to what i find where. Either it's in the defence.pk forums database, or i can't find where i read something years ago, anymore than anyone else can.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

do you support the use of WP against women and Children or not?

I support lawful warfare.
Lawful warfare implies separation of combatants from civilians.
If combatants intermix with civilians, civilians will get killed.
The criminals are then the combatants, which does not try to protect their civilians.

If there are lots of civilians in an area, the defender can agree with the attacker to designate
the area as an "Open City". This means that the area is not defended,
and cannot be legally attacked. This protects the civilians.

As I pointed out, there are no laws governing "Use of WP" so stop the propaganda,
and start discussing what is legal and what is not.

A law that would make sense is to outlaw the use of combatants in cities.
Since cities always contains a large number of civilians, they will die
as long as warfare in cities are allowed.

was it our mistake to ask for a separate homeland?


and what should we call a country who have violated around 70 UN resolutions?

I guess actually doing something else than whining is too much effort.
I am sure you feel good about whining.

 

[Solomon2]

I work with mass-media and military press releases only. Not with conspiracy or other nonsense as input to calculate with.

Depending on who you work for they are not mutually exclusive.

But i do not keep files as to what i find where. Either it's in the defence.pk forums database, or i can't find where i read something years ago, anymore than anyone else can.

When Israel matters are concerned the first reports are all-too-often slanders, followed by the "corrections". If you don't dig with an open mind you set yourself up to be manipulated by your first impressions - that is, your prejudices.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

I support lawful warfare.
Lawful warfare implies separation of combatants from civilians.
If combatants intermix with civilians, civilians will get killed.
The criminals are then the combatants, which does not try to protect their civilians.

If there are lots of civilians in an area, the defender can agree with the attacker to designate
the area as an "Open City". This means that the area is not defended,
and cannot be legally attacked. This protects the civilians.

As I pointed out, there are no laws governing "Use of WP" so stop the propaganda,
and start discussing what is legal and what is not.

A law that would make sense is to outlaw the use of combatants in cities.
Since cities always contains a large number of civilians, they will die
as long as warfare in cities are allowed.

there is difference b/w war and genocide I hope you know the difference between both

 

[Solomon2]

was it our mistake to ask for a separate homeland?

Pakistanis didn't have a vote in the matter until 1971 and you know how that went. Regardless, the violence did not have to happen. Indeed, the Brits repeated voiced the hope that the split between India and Pakistan would be merely temporary.

- and what should we call a county who have violated around 70 UN resolutions?

A minority being bullied by a majority.

This is my last post to you: you engaged in a personal slur and did not apologize. So you're going on the "blocked" list until you do and another member informs me you have.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

there is difference b/w war and genocide I hope you know the difference between both

Yes, but apparently the Cuban representative to the UN does not
when she wants to equate the Holocaust == Genocide, with the war
between Israel and Hamas /= Genocide.
That showed utter lack of taste.

The only risk of a genocidal situation here is if the Arabs defeat Israel.
Many here on PDF seems to support genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews.

 

[PeaceGen]

Depending on who you work for they are not mutually exclusive.

well the conspiracy-site people serve (the world, God, common sense, etc, etc) as alarm function, for people like me to do a google search in massmedia newssources that form the old newspaper's "page 8, 9 or 10 news", and confirm that something has arrived into the real world (from the fiction world i suppose).

When Israel matters are concerned the first reports are all-too-often slanders, followed by the "corrections". If you don't dig with an open mind you set yourself up to be manipulated by your first impressions - that is, your prejudices.

I'm not anti-Israel. I can disagree with people, and still support them on their basic rights as humans. As one of many examples possible : To determine their own fate on their own as long as they're not seriously hurting the basic rights of other humans.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

This is my last post to you: you engaged in a personal slur and did not apologize.

apologize for what?

 

[PeaceGen]

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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/cuba-shows-israel-the-mirror.508733/page-2#post-9703376

quotes the video listed at https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/cuba-shows-israel-the-mirror.508733/

and my first reply to that : https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/cuba-shows-israel-the-mirror.508733/page-2#post-9703376

 

[django]

On the Palestinians, yes

I am not one who usually reports posts, yours I have, truly despicable comments.

 

[Solomon2]

I'm not anti-Israel. I can disagree with people, and still support them on their basic rights as humans. As one of many examples possible : To determine their own fate on their own as long as they're not seriously hurting the basic rights of other humans.

So, in your opinion what "basic rights" do the Israelis have? Do Israelis have the right not to be molested by neighbors? Do Israelis have the right to use deadly force to protect themselves from deadly attacks? Do Israelis have the right to enjoy property purchased from Arabs, bequeathed to them by the previous sovereign, or abandoned by hostile persons and reclaimed to the State by laws scarcely different from those of the U.S., Turkey, or Great Britain?

 

[Trango Towers]

Oh, a failed crappy Socialist state in which everyone is starving is against Israel, with no political power what so ever, what can we do?!

feel sorry for me I am a dirty murdering jew. no wonder since moses you have wondered the planet. now you finally get a state after 3000 years and you are the worst of humanity. Europe pre 1945 corrected portrayed the jew as a scheming manipulating little vermin

 

[PeaceGen]

So, in your opinion what "basic rights" do the Israelis have? Do Israelis have the right not to be molested by neighbors? Do Israelis have the right to use deadly force to protect themselves from deadly attacks? Do Israelis have the right to enjoy property purchased from Arabs, bequeathed to them by the previous sovereign, or abandoned by hostile persons and reclaimed to the State by laws scarcely different from those of the U.S., Turkey, or Great Britain?

dont drag me into a discussion about the virtues and failures of the current Israeli people.
i have already spoken on the subject and refuse to heal your wounded conscience by getting drawn into your long one-sided discussion

 

[Solomon2]

dont drag me into a discussion about the virtues and failures of the current Israeli people.

A people's "basic rights" are related to their "virtues and failures"?

i have already spoken on the subject and refuse to heal your wounded conscience by getting drawn into your long one-sided discussion

It's not my conscience that was injured in this thread.