CRPF man killed in Liberia attack

[Justin Joseph]

Pakistan army to probe firing incident at Indian CRPF camp in Liberia

ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Pakistan Army has ordered a probe into the alleged firing by a Pakistani officer at a CRPF camp, which is part of the United Nations Peacekeeping Mission in violence-hit Liberia, according to a Pakistani army spokesman.

Commenting on the report published in the Indian media regarding the incident a spokesman of the Pakistan army said there was no casualty in the incident and all the facts would be exposed once the enquiry is completed

Indian news channel had claimed that the incident took place on June 8 in Zwedru, the capital of Grand Gedeh County, one of the 15 counties in the West African country of Liberia.

Asked about the incident, CRPF Director General Vikram Srivastava, who is currently on an official tour to Orissa said, "There was an incident of firing in Liberia. "We have submitted a report to the Ministry of External Affairs and the Ministry of Home Affairs apprising them of the incident," he said.

According to CRPF officials, the incident happened when constables Jeet Singh and Kaptan Singh were manning the sentry post made of mud and bamboo.

"Suddenly there was indiscriminate firing from outside the camp. The firing ended after a while. On check, we found a civilian severely injured and admitted him to hospital. We also found one rifle, three magazines, 32 live rounds and 20 empty cases in front of the camp," an official said.

An inquiry conducted by the Regional Commandant, UN Mission in Liberia Ben Wilson and others, found that the G3 rifle was issued to a Pakistani officer, Lt Murad, CRPF officials said.

CRPF spokesperson Ajay Chaturvedi said, "The camp was that of Male Force Police Unit (MFPU) which was posted for the first time last year".

A Pakistan battalion is also posted in Zwedru.

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[Icarus]

I have never written a rude post and have never insulted any member but I request the mods to please tolerate me for once and do not remove/edit this reply.

The Pak army are supposed to be a "professional" force, according to the Pakistanis anyway. However this incident and the Pak Army's sheer incompetency in fighting the Taliban clearly show the ENTIRE world different.

This is an isolated incident, no such incident has occurred in the past and no such incident will hopefully occur in the future, as for now, we can not even be sure if it is what it seems, the gun could have been stolen, but I guess we will only know for sure when the inquiry is completed and justice is served.
ANd what the FCUK ???? "Sheer incompetence in fighting the Taliban, my friggin' foot", do you live in a black hole ? Because from what I just quoted I can only guess that you know NOTHING about counter terrorist ops by Pakistani forces. The whole world is all praise for the professionalism that the military and F.C have displayed during these ops and you call it incompetence ? My friend last time I checked, it was our "incompetent" force that had beaten the terrorists into submission and dismantled their command structure while serverly handicapping their operational capabilities at the same time and it was your very "Professional and Competent" british army that was fighting the same enemy in Afghanistan but were having their AS* handed to them by the Taliban. So next time you want to flaunt your ignorance please make a thread named "Wanking Schoolboy fantasy thread" and post it there.

No wonder as we speak a joint Indo-French ex is going on, the 5th, and many others are planned with many countries in the world. many of which are trying to increase ex with India, Germany for example. Whereas Pak has to beg an plead just to go to Red Flag, after their Indian counterparts were given the opportunity FIRST.

We know how desperate you are to get India to choose Typhoon for the MMRCA, 128 planes with many more optional would make anyone drool, at this moment you would be prepared to sleep with them if the need arises.

Oh and by the way all of those saying things like if only this had been done in war but congrats anyway are you SERIOUS?? What other civilised society acts this way on a PEACEKEEPING mission, you have just shown clearly your country's brutality no wonder your still stuck in the middle ages.

You stuck up, gutless, scum bag, last time I checked it was a nexus of European troops INCLUDING BRITS who were caught smuggling blood diamonds out of Sierra Leone at throw away rates, now you tell me, IS THIS SOME "Civilised" FORCE BEHAVES ON A PEACE KEEPING MISSION ?

 

[Iggy]

RIP fallen one

why the f*uck UN puts fire and cotton on same place?

Shame.

RIP.

Come on mate..Even though we are enemies but their are incidents where both our forces fight together under UN flag ..Indian helis giving support to Pakistan soldiers in an ambush in Congo or some other place is such an example..

 

[Icarus]

RIP fallen one




Come on mate..Even though we are enemies but their are incidents where both our forces fight together under UN flag ..Indian helis giving support to Pakistan soldiers in an ambush in Congo or some other place is such an example..

Agreed the Indian sub-continent is the largest single manpower supplying region for the UN, and yes Pakistani and Indian soldiers have no problem in working together on UN missions since they are on neutral soil, and I have Indian Khukris to prove that we do work together without a hitch................

BTW, where are you going ? your signature says "Bye Bye Defence.pk".

 

[SurvivoR]

An unfortunate incident which never should have happened. However, I believe some foul play at work here.

How in hell does a soldier leave his weapon there for all to trace back to him!

I'll wait for the outcome of both the UN and Pakistani probes. Till then no comments.

 

[T-Faz]

That pathetic post was by an Indian residing in Britain. No need to bring in the British army or reply to that pathetic troll.

 

[Imran Khan]

That pathetic post was by an Indian residing in Britain. No need to bring in the British army or reply to that pathetic troll.

sir we answer as he use flags and sorry for that.

 

[PracticalGuy]

this shows how talibanisation is creeping into Pakistan's army forces.. the sooner the army get rid of these elements the better for the country..the last thing that pakistan wants now is indiscipline in it's army ranks and that too on the religious lines..

 

[Abingdonboy]

okay you deleted my post that's FINE, (maybe a little too close for comfort, but enough said) can we atleast agree on what every Pakistani user seems to be purposfully overlooking, PAKISTAN was the one who created these TERRORISTS in the first place and that is a FACT so don't say it's some "school boy fantasy" I'd say deleting me is pretty close too that. Additionally the PAK Army and ISI are riddled with Taliban supporters and extrmists so no wonder this happened.

 

[Imran Khan]

this shows how talibanisation is creeping into Pakistan's army forces.. the sooner the army get rid of these elements the better for the country..the last thing that pakistan wants now is indiscipline in it's army ranks and that too on the religious lines..

this show nothing pakistan army kill taliban more then any tom herry dick . and also pakistani solders killed by talibs more then ant one. its indian propegenda game nothing more. we all know were can go in enemy think.

 

[JonAsad]

this shows how talibanisation is creeping into Pakistan's army forces.. the sooner the army get rid of these elements the better for the country..the last thing that pakistan wants now is indiscipline in it's army ranks and that too on the religious lines..

What religious lines are you talking about?
The indiscipline your are talking about where it has happened?
I dont see any reason to bring religon into this incident?
Its not our religion that tells us to hate Indians.
whats your Point?

 

[Imran Khan]

okay you deleted my post that's FINE, (maybe a little too close for comfort, but enough said) can we atleast agree on what every Pakistani user seems to be purposfully overlooking, PAKISTAN was the one who created these TERRORISTS in the first place and that is a FACT so don't say it's some "school boy fantasy" I'd say deleting me is pretty close too that. Additionally the PAK Army and ISI are riddled with Taliban supporters and extrmists so no wonder this happened.

you forget who send them stingers dollers and who aid them in past and whom say they are our national heros? and don't forget uk was the country who help them much much remember soviat union arrest 2 britsh spy in 1986 in afghanistan and show them on tv?. which country was host 2 mi-24 afghan holes which were given by isi from talibans? yes UK.who give them red eye missile uk .

 

[T-Faz]

okay you deleted my post that's FINE, (maybe a little too close for comfort, but enough said) can we atleast agree on what every Pakistani user seems to be purposfully overlooking, PAKISTAN was the one who created these TERRORISTS in the first place and that is a FACT so don't say it's some "school boy fantasy" I'd say deleting me is pretty close too that. Additionally the PAK Army and ISI are riddled with Taliban supporters and extrmists so no wonder this happened.

I do not know why you are trolling here and that too with such uninformed remarks. Mujahideen was created by USA and Pakistan together. Al Qaeda never had any relations with ISI, Bin Laden was brought in by CIA for funding the Mujahideen. Pakistan never created terrorist groups, what did happen is the Mujahideen groups aligned themselves with local political parties for mutual benefit. This is the case for every country in the world.

The only thing Pakistan had a hand in was the creation of the Taliban, that too with the help of USA.

1994-1997: US Supports Taliban Rise to Power

Journalist Ahmed Rashid, a long-time expert on Pakistan and Afghanistan, will later write in a book about the Taliban that the US supported the Taliban in its early years. “Between 1994 and 1996, the USA supported the Taliban politically through its allies Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, essentially because Washington viewed the Taliban as anti-Iranian, anti-Shia, and pro-Western. Between 1995 and 1997, US support was even more driven because of its backing for the Unocal [pipeline] project.” He notes that many US diplomats “saw them as messianic do-gooders—like born-again Christians from the American Bible Belt.” [DREYFUSS, 2005, PP. 326] Selig Harrison, a long-time regional expert with extensive CIA ties, will later say that he complained at the time about how Pakistani ISI support of the Taliban was backed by the CIA. “I warned them that we were creating a monster.” [TIMES OF INDIA, 3/7/2001] There is evidence the CIA may have helped supply the Taliban with weapons during the first months of their rise to power (see October 1994).
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October 1994: CIA and ISI Allegedly Give Help and Secret Cache of Weapons to Taliban

The CIA supposedly backs the Taliban around the same time the Pakistani ISI starts strongly backing them (see Spring-Autumn 1994 and 1994-1997). According to a senior Pakistani intelligence source interviewed by British journalist Simon Reeves, the CIA provides Pakistan satellite information giving the secret locations of scores of Soviet trucks that contain vast amounts of arms and ammunition. The trucks were hidden in caves at the end of the Afghan war. Pakistan then gives this information to the Taliban. “The astonishing speed with which the Taliban conquered Afghanistan is explained by the tens of thousands of weapons found in these trucks….” [REEVE, 1999, PP. 191] Journalist Steve Coll will later similarly note that at this time, the Taliban gain access to “an enormous ISI-supplied weapons dump” in caves near the border town of Spin Boldak. It has enough weapons left over from the Soviet-Afghan war to supply tens of thousands of soldiers. [COLL, 2004, PP. 291] Another account will point out that by early 1995, the Taliban was equipped with armored tanks, ten combat airplanes, and other heavy weapons. They are thus able to conquer about a third of the country by February 1995. “According to the files at one European intelligence agency, these military advances can be explained mainly by ‘strong military training, not only by the Pakistani services, but also by American military advisers working under humanitarian cover.’” Later in 1995, a Turkish newsweekly will claim to have learned from a classified report given to the Turkish government that the CIA, ISI, and Saudi Arabia were all collaborating to build up the Taliban so they could quickly unite Afghanistan. [LABEVIERE, 1999, PP. 262-263]

Secondly no Indian was shot by Pakistani soldier, a mentally unstable soldier opened fired in a separate incident and absconded. Pakistan is one of the largest contributors to UN peach keeping mission worldwide and has been for a long time.

United Nations peacekeeping missions involving Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As for your pathetic statements that I deleted. Read this and then learn something, it might change your biased mindset.

Pakistan army sure it has upper hand in tribal areas | The Australian

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0618/1224272795354.html

http://www.groundreport.com/Politics/Pakistans-War-on-Terror-Road-to-Victory/2903687

Even retired US officials agreed that Pakistan is the only country to achieve success against the militants.

As for Taliban sympathizers, such did exist but have been purged since the days of Musharraf. Back your points with references, if you cannot do so, do no post.

 

[JonAsad]

okay you deleted my post that's FINE, (maybe a little too close for comfort, but enough said) can we atleast agree on what every Pakistani user seems to be purposfully overlooking, PAKISTAN was the one who created these TERRORISTS in the first place .

Lets play a riddle..
How the Afghanis fought the invading Russian forces?
What were they called?
Who provided them weapons money?
What happened when the russians left?
Wha happened to the Afghani figters after that?
Whats common in taliban leaders and those Afhani fighters?
What was the role of Osama Bin Laden in that war?

Now answer me who created talibans?
Dont just open your mouth talk with logic and reasoning.

Additionally the PAK Army and ISI are riddled with Taliban supporters and extrmists so no wonder this happened.

Do you actually know what has happened douchebag?

one member brought Religion into the incident and this troll is bringing taliban.. whats wrong with you guys?

 

[PracticalGuy]

this show nothing pakistan army kill taliban more then any tom herry dick . and also pakistani solders killed by talibs more then ant one. its indian propegenda game nothing more. we all know were can go in enemy think.

now if you go through my post once again probably u will understand what i meant.. who said all of the PA is like that? there are definitely some bad apples in the force and it's not unusual for the situation pakistan is now in and hence my observation the sooner these bad apples are eliminated the better for the force and the country..but if u tell me that there are no such elements in the PA then i should say that ur world is far from the reality..

What religious lines are you talking about?
The indiscipline your are talking about where it has happened?
I dont see any reason to bring religon into this incident?
Its not our religion that tells us to hate Indians.
whats your Point?

here is the snippet from the below given link..

"At 4.45 am (local time) on June 8, Lieutenant Murad fired indiscriminately at Indian sentry posts and pre-fabricated huts where the Indian personnel stay, shouting slogans of Allah-hu-Akbar," says a secret report of the Union home ministry

Hate attack? Pak army officer in shooting spree at Indian UN camp - Yahoo! India News