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CPEC faltering?

I HOPE I am wrong on this one. But early signs indicate that the Pakistani side has already started faltering on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor. This has happened within six months after its announcement with much fanfare during the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Last week the parliamentary committee was given a ‘status update’ by the executing ministries. The ‘briefing’ consisted of a presentation on the Frontier Works Organisation’s progress on the western route, another on the Suki Kinari power project and standard presentations on coal deposits that are available in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan and about which we have known for a long time. Another was on opportunities in the agriculture sector.

So the western route is being built and hopefully will be completed by the end of 2016. Trucks laden with shipping containers will be able to ply up and down. But does the government have any estimate or study that can quantify the economic benefits that will accrue from this? Nato containers also plied our roads for over a decade but what then? Sure there will be ribbon development effects and we’ll see refuelling stations, rest areas and tea shops crop up alongside the new route.

Hinterland access would also be improved as branches are developed from the trunk. But to be sure, CPEC is a north-south trunk that meets the Chinese objective of accessing markets for its manufactured goods. Do we have any ideas, apart from the usual platitudes, on leveraging it to create substantial economic benefits?

To be fair, China has suggested for Pakistan to establish industrial parks and special economic zones where raw materials and other factors of production are available. Industrial parks can be considered for sectors such as steel, cement, automobiles, construction materials, gems and stones, household appliances, agricultural implements, textiles and garments. With some savvy business structuring, it may even be possible to relocate certain low technology industries from China.

For several weeks, the federal and provincial governments went through the usual standard motions, and identified sites for 29 industrial parks and 21 special economic zones.

But the government remained clueless on how these estates will be made attractive for investors. Who will invest here, what will they make and who will they sell to? What ails our competitiveness in most productive industrial sectors? Indeed, why so many existing industrial estates in the country remain underutilised.

Instead of any deep thinking on the matter the government was last mulling exemptions from duties and taxes on all imported machinery and a 20-year income tax holiday for new manufacturing plants. That is, until somebody mentioned the elephant in the room. How do we run industrial estates without electricity? And that was that. Now even this half-baked plan has been put off because there is not enough electricity. Clearly, the government is out of ideas here. If it had its piece together, the electricity bit was easy to solve. Let the estate developers and operators bring in rental power plants. Any excess could be fed to the grid and any shortfall drawn from it. They would need fuel to be delivered to their locations. And the fastest stop-gap solution would be furnace oil. At the present low world oil prices this may just be viable. Until we can get our power plants up and running that is.

Incidentally, most issues appear to revolve around the power sector. To the earlier problem of circular debt and delayed payments has now been added a decrepit grid that cannot evacuate and transmit power in the required quantities. And project sponsors in the power sector complain that there is no ‘one window’ as promised, instead they have to chase around AEDB, Nepra, NTDC and other power-sector agencies separately to get their files and paperwork processed; the work at each window is dependent on the other and the agencies do not talk to each other to resolve problems.

On to Gwadar port where 1,000 hectares have been assigned to the port operator, China Overseas Port Holding Company to develop a duty-free zone and industrial area adjacent to the port.

In my background discussions with the company, it was not clear to them yet what kind of business opportunities would be pursued at the zone, whether the investors would predominantly come from China or from the local market. There does not appear to be a traffic forecast with underlying assumptions indicating how many and what type of ships will arrive in 2018, 2019 and 2020? The port operator appeared to be struggling with these questions.

The government needs to step up and ask them what is it that we can do to help you get this port up and running. The government needs to allocate more imagination and will here.
 
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CPEC faltering?

I HOPE I am wrong on this one. But early signs indicate that the Pakistani side has already started faltering on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor. This has happened within six months after its announcement with much fanfare during the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Last week the parliamentary committee was given a ‘status update’ by the executing ministries. The ‘briefing’ consisted of a presentation on the Frontier Works Organisation’s progress on the western route, another on the Suki Kinari power project and standard presentations on coal deposits that are available in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan and about which we have known for a long time. Another was on opportunities in the agriculture sector.

So the western route is being built and hopefully will be completed by the end of 2016. Trucks laden with shipping containers will be able to ply up and down. But does the government have any estimate or study that can quantify the economic benefits that will accrue from this? Nato containers also plied our roads for over a decade but what then? Sure there will be ribbon development effects and we’ll see refuelling stations, rest areas and tea shops crop up alongside the new route.

Hinterland access would also be improved as branches are developed from the trunk. But to be sure, CPEC is a north-south trunk that meets the Chinese objective of accessing markets for its manufactured goods. Do we have any ideas, apart from the usual platitudes, on leveraging it to create substantial economic benefits?

To be fair, China has suggested for Pakistan to establish industrial parks and special economic zones where raw materials and other factors of production are available. Industrial parks can be considered for sectors such as steel, cement, automobiles, construction materials, gems and stones, household appliances, agricultural implements, textiles and garments. With some savvy business structuring, it may even be possible to relocate certain low technology industries from China.

For several weeks, the federal and provincial governments went through the usual standard motions, and identified sites for 29 industrial parks and 21 special economic zones.

But the government remained clueless on how these estates will be made attractive for investors. Who will invest here, what will they make and who will they sell to? What ails our competitiveness in most productive industrial sectors? Indeed, why so many existing industrial estates in the country remain underutilised.

Instead of any deep thinking on the matter the government was last mulling exemptions from duties and taxes on all imported machinery and a 20-year income tax holiday for new manufacturing plants. That is, until somebody mentioned the elephant in the room. How do we run industrial estates without electricity? And that was that. Now even this half-baked plan has been put off because there is not enough electricity. Clearly, the government is out of ideas here. If it had its piece together, the electricity bit was easy to solve. Let the estate developers and operators bring in rental power plants. Any excess could be fed to the grid and any shortfall drawn from it. They would need fuel to be delivered to their locations. And the fastest stop-gap solution would be furnace oil. At the present low world oil prices this may just be viable. Until we can get our power plants up and running that is.

Incidentally, most issues appear to revolve around the power sector. To the earlier problem of circular debt and delayed payments has now been added a decrepit grid that cannot evacuate and transmit power in the required quantities. And project sponsors in the power sector complain that there is no ‘one window’ as promised, instead they have to chase around AEDB, Nepra, NTDC and other power-sector agencies separately to get their files and paperwork processed; the work at each window is dependent on the other and the agencies do not talk to each other to resolve problems.

On to Gwadar port where 1,000 hectares have been assigned to the port operator, China Overseas Port Holding Company to develop a duty-free zone and industrial area adjacent to the port.

In my background discussions with the company, it was not clear to them yet what kind of business opportunities would be pursued at the zone, whether the investors would predominantly come from China or from the local market. There does not appear to be a traffic forecast with underlying assumptions indicating how many and what type of ships will arrive in 2018, 2019 and 2020? The port operator appeared to be struggling with these questions.

The government needs to step up and ask them what is it that we can do to help you get this port up and running. The government needs to allocate more imagination and will here.
You see what you want to see.
 
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Surely, this is just to bait and get some reaction from the Pakistani crowd.
CPEC is an ambitious project. It will take a long time to realize considering the penchant for south asians to be unruly, disobedient, corrupt and lawless... Give it time and then judge..
 
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I HOPE I am wrong on this one. But early signs indicate that the Pakistani side has already started faltering on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor.

The author is wrong on this one. It is too soon to determine whether there is any faltering. It takes a good period of time before the initial stages of such a huge undertaking actually get under way. It is too soon to tell what will happen.

Link to the source: CPEC faltering? - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
 
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How can it falter when it didnt even take off yet ? First part is to provide a road and rail network to match the capacity which hasn't even finished ? Second step to pump enough power in Electric grid to match the demand which is still in initial stage ?

Seriously who lets morons like these even write about such important projects. I bet if you ask this writer 3 questions about CPEC he will have no clue about what is this all about.
 
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Even if they do, they have been smart and have already blamed India by making up stories about Indian plan to hurt the project. So the pakistani state is safe.
 
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It's a huge project and like any other, not going to deliver 100% benefits overnight. Things will happen gradually, incentives for setting up new industries would be announced on time. What to make, where to get raw materials, where to sell is not for government to decide or worry about. Investors who are interested in investing in new ventures would work out the nitty gritty of what, where, how, and who etc.
 
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CPEC faltering?

I HOPE I am wrong on this one. But early signs indicate that the Pakistani side has already started faltering on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor. This has happened within six months after its announcement with much fanfare during the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Last week the parliamentary committee was given a ‘status update’ by the executing ministries. The ‘briefing’ consisted of a presentation on the Frontier Works Organisation’s progress on the western route, another on the Suki Kinari power project and standard presentations on coal deposits that are available in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan and about which we have known for a long time. Another was on opportunities in the agriculture sector.

So the western route is being built and hopefully will be completed by the end of 2016. Trucks laden with shipping containers will be able to ply up and down. But does the government have any estimate or study that can quantify the economic benefits that will accrue from this? Nato containers also plied our roads for over a decade but what then? Sure there will be ribbon development effects and we’ll see refuelling stations, rest areas and tea shops crop up alongside the new route.

Hinterland access would also be improved as branches are developed from the trunk. But to be sure, CPEC is a north-south trunk that meets the Chinese objective of accessing markets for its manufactured goods. Do we have any ideas, apart from the usual platitudes, on leveraging it to create substantial economic benefits?

To be fair, China has suggested for Pakistan to establish industrial parks and special economic zones where raw materials and other factors of production are available. Industrial parks can be considered for sectors such as steel, cement, automobiles, construction materials, gems and stones, household appliances, agricultural implements, textiles and garments. With some savvy business structuring, it may even be possible to relocate certain low technology industries from China.

For several weeks, the federal and provincial governments went through the usual standard motions, and identified sites for 29 industrial parks and 21 special economic zones.

But the government remained clueless on how these estates will be made attractive for investors. Who will invest here, what will they make and who will they sell to? What ails our competitiveness in most productive industrial sectors? Indeed, why so many existing industrial estates in the country remain underutilised.

Instead of any deep thinking on the matter the government was last mulling exemptions from duties and taxes on all imported machinery and a 20-year income tax holiday for new manufacturing plants. That is, until somebody mentioned the elephant in the room. How do we run industrial estates without electricity? And that was that. Now even this half-baked plan has been put off because there is not enough electricity. Clearly, the government is out of ideas here. If it had its piece together, the electricity bit was easy to solve. Let the estate developers and operators bring in rental power plants. Any excess could be fed to the grid and any shortfall drawn from it. They would need fuel to be delivered to their locations. And the fastest stop-gap solution would be furnace oil. At the present low world oil prices this may just be viable. Until we can get our power plants up and running that is.

Incidentally, most issues appear to revolve around the power sector. To the earlier problem of circular debt and delayed payments has now been added a decrepit grid that cannot evacuate and transmit power in the required quantities. And project sponsors in the power sector complain that there is no ‘one window’ as promised, instead they have to chase around AEDB, Nepra, NTDC and other power-sector agencies separately to get their files and paperwork processed; the work at each window is dependent on the other and the agencies do not talk to each other to resolve problems.

On to Gwadar port where 1,000 hectares have been assigned to the port operator, China Overseas Port Holding Company to develop a duty-free zone and industrial area adjacent to the port.

In my background discussions with the company, it was not clear to them yet what kind of business opportunities would be pursued at the zone, whether the investors would predominantly come from China or from the local market. There does not appear to be a traffic forecast with underlying assumptions indicating how many and what type of ships will arrive in 2018, 2019 and 2020? The port operator appeared to be struggling with these questions.

The government needs to step up and ask them what is it that we can do to help you get this port up and running. The government needs to allocate more imagination and will here.

CPEC is not faltering but on temporary hold as Pakistan reviews the counter offer from US.
 
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CPEC is not faltering but on temporary hold as Pakistan reviews the counter offer from US.

What offer?
CPEC Road network is 90% done, we are not building the whole NEW Highways to support CPEC instead luckily Pakistan already have a good road network. China controls Gawadar Ports and can start transporting goods as soon as the missing road links are complete. The rest are power projects, mainly Nuclear power plants, sure US can give us an alternate to that and setup Nuclear power plants and Pakistan will welcome it.
 
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Considering the South Asian mentality, any project takes lot of times, particularly land acquisition, getting clearances, building infrastructure. I think the next update on CPEC should be after 3 years to gauge if it has made any real progress or not.
 
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Pakistan is a poor country. There is no internal demand to support foreign investment. Thats why CPEC will falter.
 
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CPEC faltering?

I HOPE I am wrong on this one. But early signs indicate that the Pakistani side has already started faltering on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor. This has happened within six months after its announcement with much fanfare during the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Last week the parliamentary committee was given a ‘status update’ by the executing ministries. The ‘briefing’ consisted of a presentation on the Frontier Works Organisation’s progress on the western route, another on the Suki Kinari power project and standard presentations on coal deposits that are available in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan and about which we have known for a long time. Another was on opportunities in the agriculture sector.

So the western route is being built and hopefully will be completed by the end of 2016. Trucks laden with shipping containers will be able to ply up and down. But does the government have any estimate or study that can quantify the economic benefits that will accrue from this? Nato containers also plied our roads for over a decade but what then? Sure there will be ribbon development effects and we’ll see refuelling stations, rest areas and tea shops crop up alongside the new route.

Hinterland access would also be improved as branches are developed from the trunk. But to be sure, CPEC is a north-south trunk that meets the Chinese objective of accessing markets for its manufactured goods. Do we have any ideas, apart from the usual platitudes, on leveraging it to create substantial economic benefits?

To be fair, China has suggested for Pakistan to establish industrial parks and special economic zones where raw materials and other factors of production are available. Industrial parks can be considered for sectors such as steel, cement, automobiles, construction materials, gems and stones, household appliances, agricultural implements, textiles and garments. With some savvy business structuring, it may even be possible to relocate certain low technology industries from China.

For several weeks, the federal and provincial governments went through the usual standard motions, and identified sites for 29 industrial parks and 21 special economic zones.

But the government remained clueless on how these estates will be made attractive for investors. Who will invest here, what will they make and who will they sell to? What ails our competitiveness in most productive industrial sectors? Indeed, why so many existing industrial estates in the country remain underutilised.

Instead of any deep thinking on the matter the government was last mulling exemptions from duties and taxes on all imported machinery and a 20-year income tax holiday for new manufacturing plants. That is, until somebody mentioned the elephant in the room. How do we run industrial estates without electricity? And that was that. Now even this half-baked plan has been put off because there is not enough electricity. Clearly, the government is out of ideas here. If it had its piece together, the electricity bit was easy to solve. Let the estate developers and operators bring in rental power plants. Any excess could be fed to the grid and any shortfall drawn from it. They would need fuel to be delivered to their locations. And the fastest stop-gap solution would be furnace oil. At the present low world oil prices this may just be viable. Until we can get our power plants up and running that is.

Incidentally, most issues appear to revolve around the power sector. To the earlier problem of circular debt and delayed payments has now been added a decrepit grid that cannot evacuate and transmit power in the required quantities. And project sponsors in the power sector complain that there is no ‘one window’ as promised, instead they have to chase around AEDB, Nepra, NTDC and other power-sector agencies separately to get their files and paperwork processed; the work at each window is dependent on the other and the agencies do not talk to each other to resolve problems.

On to Gwadar port where 1,000 hectares have been assigned to the port operator, China Overseas Port Holding Company to develop a duty-free zone and industrial area adjacent to the port.

In my background discussions with the company, it was not clear to them yet what kind of business opportunities would be pursued at the zone, whether the investors would predominantly come from China or from the local market. There does not appear to be a traffic forecast with underlying assumptions indicating how many and what type of ships will arrive in 2018, 2019 and 2020? The port operator appeared to be struggling with these questions.

The government needs to step up and ask them what is it that we can do to help you get this port up and running. The government needs to allocate more imagination and will here.

CPEC is more important to Pakistan than any one and no one can backoff because there is establishment to monitor, army engineering cores are assessing the development. there are Chinese counterparts to cross verify the development. its progress may face glitches but at the end it will be completed and by the way Army has completed 500KM+ out of 800KM in Balochistan.
 
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CPEC faltering?.

No!!

Your rear burning??? YESSSS!!!!!! BTW, how many people from the minorities got killed in India today because they ate meat and its an insult to Hindus so they just kill the met eaters conveniently?

CPEC is not faltering but on temporary hold as Pakistan reviews the counter offer from US.

There is no "counter offer", nor can there be one. What do you smoke or drink on Tuesdays? Clearly its giving you hallucinations. Stick to girly drinks with "fruits" in them. Whiskey, Cognac, JD and Hennessy are too strong for you :rofl:
 
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