CPEC bypassed Afghanistan to connect with Central Asia

[undercover JIX]

Ghani ki dreams jo is ko India dekha raha that sab ka satyanas ho gaya. He was told CPEC depend on Afghan route. Ghani ki to baj gai.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Will Pakistan allow TAPI with the deteriorating relations with US & India?

What has US or india to do with it?

Its india thats trying to join a project it tried to halt...

Pak and Russia are already moving on ir.

India had pulled out of IPI due to troubled relations with Pakistan. It is now IP which Pakistan is unable to close.

CPEC is competing with Chabahar.

No, kid.. chahbahar is an iranian port .. fulfilling iranian needs.. its not a 60+ billion dollar project involving IT parks,industrial zones,power plants,rail and road infra,metros etc.

The fact is CARs does far more Business with India than Pakistan. This means there would be more trade through Chabahar than through CPEC.

For example, Kazakhstan Exports $414.61M to India but only $2.66M to Pakistan.

Retard... CPEC will be used by China,CARs to export their products world wide not fukin india...

You retarded obsessive troll..

Also Pak-Kazakh trade back in 2016 was 34 million $ .. it is 2018... it would be much more than that or the pathetic figure of 2.66m you pulled outta your behind:

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/tribune.com.pk/story/1103014/pakistans-trade-caravan-reaches-kazakhstan/?amp=1

2009 paper;

http://putaj.puta.pk/index.php/hss/article/download/254/183/

I am not even bringing up the trade that Japan, SK & ASEAN etc does with CARs. They would take the Chabahar route than CPEC.

Shove it up your crevices where the sun dont shine.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Excellent development. Now it's time to put Afghanistan in its place!

 

[koolio]

LOL at dirty Indians trumpeting how opiumland would block Pakistan's access to CAR states. That myth has been buried forever now.



Indian scum are terrible at geography.

Not only they are terrible, they are extremely ignorant of the ground realities, they cant digest a stable and prosperous Pakistan, Pakistan bogeyman DNA is implanted in their brains, RSS carry maps dreaming of capturing Pakistan and making it as Akhand Bharat. once CPEC gets going it will wipe out all the Indian dreams of bullying Pakistan into submission.

 

[shootingstar]

LOL at dirty Indians trumpeting how opiumland would block Pakistan's access to CAR states. That myth has been buried forever now.



Indian scum are terrible at geography.

Well Pakistan was the one which tried to block India's access to Afghanistan & CAR's through Pakistan but in the process got itself blocked from Afghanistan & CAR's and is taking a detour through CPEC.

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

Strong defense infrastructure is needed in the Northern Area near Wakhan before any military move to annex the corridor. Moreover we should know that the Indians have some military presence across the Wakhan, probably two airbases also. Such steps needs policy making and preparations.

 

[Khanate]

Who apart from Pakistan needs CPEC to connect with Central Asia?

Not Russia, Not China, Not India, Not Iran, Not Turkey, Not US, Not EU...

You need a map.

CARs are landlocked and don't have access to warm waters. Pakistan does.

CPEC is competing with Chabahar.

No competition. Iran is under sanctions. Iran also doesn't get along with its Arab neighbours.

CARs are land locked and will be open to use any and every route available. Except Pakistan, no one else plans to use CPEC to reach CAR. Pakistan is forced to take the detour through CPEC as you cannot go through Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is too dangerous and barely has any infrastructure. The "detour" is infinitely safer with excellent infrastructure.

Why does Afghanistan need CPEC to trade with CARs? Afghanistan has direct border with CARs.

Direct borders are meaningless when Afghanistan itself is unsafe.

Well Pakistan was the one which tried to block India's access to Afghanistan & CAR's through Pakistan but in the process got itself blocked from Afghanistan & CAR's and is taking a detour through CPEC.

NSTC goes through Pakistan's backyard. It is vulnerable to closure.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Well Pakistan was the one which tried to block India's access to Afghanistan & CAR's through Pakistan but in the process got itself blocked from Afghanistan & CAR's and is taking a detour through CPEC.

What are you smoking? Are you trying to say that a series of developments with little relations are all somehow linked?

Pakistan has suppressed overland India-Afghanistan trade for as long as it could, CPEC is a development to facilitate Pak-China trade and unrelated to Afghanistan, Afghanistans restrictions on Central Asian trade is unrelated to CPEC or India.

If you have a brain, I suggest using it before you make such dumb posts.

 

[shootingstar]

You need a map.

CARs are landlocked and don't have access to warm waters. Pakistan does.

Yes but CARs can access warm waters through Iran too. Pakistan is not the only option.

No competition. Iran is under sanctions. Iran also doesn't get along with its Arab neighbours.

India bought oil when Iran was under sanctions and continues to trade with Iran.

Do you think that US does not know about the India-Iran-Afghanistan agreement?

Afghanistan is too dangerous and barely has any infrastructure. The "detour" is infinitely safer with excellent infrastructure.

Yes. the detour may be safer for Pakistan. In fact I asked the same question in my first post on this thread.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/cpec...with-central-asia.544952/page-2#post-10264972

Direct borders are meaningless when Afghanistan itself is unsafe.

Why would any country which has direct border with CARs trade through CPEC/Pakistan? It may be valid only for countries that are trying to reach CARs through Indian Ocean. Here too there is an Iranian option.

NSTC goes through Pakistan's backyard. It is vulnerable to closure.

INSTC goes through Iran. You mean it is vulnerable to closure because of sanctions on Iran?

What are you smoking? Are you trying to say that a series of developments with little relations are all somehow linked?

Pakistan has suppressed overland India-Afghanistan trade for as long as it could, CPEC is a development to facilitate Pak-China trade and unrelated to Afghanistan, Afghanistans restrictions on Central Asian trade is unrelated to CPEC or India.

If you have a brain, I suggest using it before you make such dumb posts.

Events do not happen in isolation. You have to connect the dots of the events over time.

 

[Khanate]

Yes but CARs can access warm waters through Iran too. Pakistan is not the only option.

Same issue. Iran is under international sanctions.

India bought oil when Iran was under sanctions and continues to trade with Iran.

Do you think that US does not know about the India-Iran-Afghanistan agreement?

Irrelevant.

How is India building a white elephant connected with Arab-Iran relations?

Yes. the detour may be safer for Pakistan.

Pakistan is a transiting country. The route transiting through Pakistan is safer for freight companies, i.e., traders, transporters, etc.

Why would any country which has direct border with CARs trade through CPEC/Pakistan? It may be valid only for countries that are trying to reach CARs through Indian Ocean. Here too there is an Iranian option.

Because the route transiting through Afghanistan is unsafe and Iran is under sanctions. Freight companies will run into all sorts of issues. Hence, the routes are limited. Gwadar being a deep port only compounds our advantage.

Events do not happen in isolation. You have to connect the dots of the events over time.

There are too many dots in Afghanistan. None pointing towards peace.

 

[shootingstar]

Same issue. Iran is under international sanctions.

Because the route transiting through Afghanistan is unsafe and Iran is under sanctions. Freight companies will run into all sorts of issues. Hence, the routes are limited. Gwadar being a deep port only compounds our advantage.

You are assuming that Pakistan may not come under sanctions. Neither INSTC (Indo-Iranian-Russian venture) nor BRI/CPEC (Sino-Pak venture) are favorable for the West.

Irrelevant.

How is India building a white elephant connected with Arab-Iran relations?

There are many other customers in South Asia, South East Asia & East Asia. Also, not all Arabs have an issue with Iran.

 

[Khanate]

You are assuming that Pakistan may not come under sanctions.

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts...

If you like to play the supposition game then you're assuming Russia and India won't face sactions in the future. In 2018 though, Iran is under sanctions and Afghanistan is unsafe.

Neither INSTC (Indo-Iranian-Russian venture) nor BRI/CPEC (Sino-Pak venture) are favorable for the West.

CPEC offers more convergence than NSTC. Russia/Iran's industrial base is India's competitor.

There are many other customers in South Asia, South East Asia & East Asia. Also, not all Arabs have an issue with Iran.

Same issue.

...the route transiting through Afghanistan is unsafe and Iran is under sanctions. Freight companies will run into all sorts of issues. Hence, the routes are limited. Gwadar being a deep port only compounds our advantage.​

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Events do not happen in isolation. You have to connect the dots of the events over time.

Ridiculous. You are being delusional.

None of these things are a cause of or caused by each other, your entire argument therefore has zero value.

 

[Basel]

Why does Afghanistan need CPEC to trade with CARs? Afghanistan has direct border with CARs.

They need CPEC to get access to Gawadar and Industrial zones which will benefit.

 

[shootingstar]

They need CPEC to get access to Gawadar and Industrial zones which will benefit.

Yes. Afghanistan can benefit by having access to Gawadar but they have an option of using Iranian ports too.