Covid-19 - Devastating Second Wave in India - Updates and Discussion

[Saudang]

My rough computation it would take 10-20 million casualties before India will reach herd immunity naturally, depending on strength of the mutations. They are already part way there.

India has mortality rate of 1.1% for covid. And it would need at least 40% of population to get have antibodies for herd immunity (around 550 millions). So probably 550000 deaths before herd immunity. But hoping that vaccination will fillup half of the immunity number, it will still be around 350k deaths before things come under control.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I don't think it will be that easy. The death rate will be astronomical. Possibly tens and hundreds of millions. The virus is mutating and adapting all the time. Getting more dangerous and contagious than the previous variant. Vaccines are a pipe dream against such a threat.

Population density is a serious problem that India is struggling to negotiate a way around. It shows how vulnerable many countries are. Even ethnic groups who live more densely (south Asians in UK for example) also demonstrate this phenomenon perfectly by having a higher infection and death rate than other groups.

 

[niao78]

Indian death counts are accurate and based Indian government's mathematical calculation of How to make 5 trillion economy.
Don't question it, we invented 0 so we know maths, Ok ?

 

[Surya 1]

my friend
They are superpowers and are always very confident. Introduce you to watching a documentary filmed by a Chinese traveling in India. Search on YouTube雷探长 印度
You will find that everyone in India is asking for money everywhere

Ohhh , Thanks for enlightening me on India as how would I know about India without seeing at a video on Video.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Indian death counts are accurate and based Indian government's mathematical calculation of How to make 5 trillion economy.
Don't question it, we invented 0 so we know maths, Ok ?

People who are dying at home due to shortage of beds in hospitals considered normal death hence Modi Govt trying to lower the figure Mr. Mathematician......You invented 0 and you are 0. A chai wala manage to fool you all.

 

[vi-va]

India has mortality rate of 1.1% for covid. And it would need at least 40% of population to get have antibodies for herd immunity (around 550 millions). So probably 550000 deaths before herd immunity. But hoping that vaccination will fillup half of the immunity number, it will still be around 350k deaths before things come under control.

More festival of democracy needed.
More campaign rally needed.
More Kumbh Mela
Damn smart.

 

[Meengla]

Many of the deaths in Delhi are from upper middle class families, as can be seen in the videos, yes there are many lower class as well.

Yes.
A recent NY Times article said that India's healthcare system catered to the more well off people and so, when the private hospitals were unable to cope with the rate of infections, even the well off people are dying. The article and/or comments to it by some Indians themselves say that corruption and even price-gouging is rampant in India in the current Covid crisis and that the current disaster also shows an overall moral decline in the society.

The 'perfect storm' about India's crisis is not just about the combination of factors like political rallies and a bad healthcare system. It has to ALSO factor in the moral decay in the Indian society: Money, money, money! A truly sad situation for the millions of poor. India is making global headlines for the wrong reasons.

 

[Meengla]

US to ban travelers from India, as subcontinent grapples with Covid surge

The Biden administration will impose new travel restrictions on India, amid a wave of coronavirus cases and deaths. Nearly half the world’s population is now banned from entering the US.

www.rt.com

US is late as usual. Any update whether the Indian mutated variant made it to the US?
Guess the Asian NATO alliance just banned a fellow member as they see it as the sick man of the world.

Indeed there is anger in American forums about Biden waiting till May 4 to ban arrivals of flights from India. The forum members are calling it a bribe from 'Big Pharma' and 'Big Tech' to the US politicians; in case of the tech companies, the cheap H1B workers are the reason. And with 14 flights from India to USA daily, imagine how many will have already made it to America and assuredly some of them will bring the potent mutant Virus with them.

How the US media was after China back when China didn't even have a tenth of the scary numbers but is largely silent about Indians arrivals to America given the disaster happening in India! Makes you wonder!

 

[onebyone]

India can learn from China’s experience fighting Covid-19, says top US adviser Anthony Fauci

• Fauci tells Indian newspaper that building temporary hospitals and lockdowns helped China stop the disease spreading
• India is currently the world’s worst affected country, with 400,000 new cases recorded on Saturday

Dr Anthony Fauci cited the use of makeshift hospitals as an emergency measure. Photo: AFP
India could learn from China’s disease control playbook in fighting its Covid-19 surge, according to US presidential medical adviser Anthony Fauci.
Fauci offered advice on how to tackle the “very difficult and desperate situation”, during an interview with The Indian Express published on Saturday.
India has become the pandemic’s epicentre,
reaching a record high of 400,000 new daily cases on Saturday,
with health care systems overwhelmed and patients struggling for access to care and supplies.

India can learn from China’s Covid-19 experience, says Fauci

Fauci tells Indian newspaper that building temporary hospitals and lockdowns helped China stop the disease spreading.

www.scmp.com

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

No, it really can't.

All it can do is implement the Make in India campaign - make coronavirus variants in India.

 

[UKBengali]

No, it really can't.

All it can do is implement the Make in India campaign - make coronavirus variants in India.

Even now Indians are massing in religious gatherings and election voting.

You can only help those who want to be helped.

 

[ozranger]

Neither India nor the US has resources to build temporary hospitals or implement any sufficiently strict lockdowns. Be realistic!

 

[UKBengali]

Indeed there is anger in American forums about Biden waiting till May 4 to ban arrivals of flights from India. The forum members are calling it a bribe from 'Big Pharma' and 'Big Tech' to the US politicians; in case of the tech companies, the cheap H1B workers are the reason. And with 14 flights from India to USA daily, imagine how many will have already made it to America and assuredly some of them will bring the potent mutant Virus with them.

How the US media was after China back when China didn't even have a tenth of the scary numbers but is largely silent about Indians arrivals to America given the disaster happening in India! Makes you wonder!

We thought the UK government was slow and they brought in mandatory hotel quarantine for arrivals from India on Friday 23rd April after a massive scientific and media campaign.

USA is waiting nearly 2 more weeks! Hundreds, maybe thousands of cases will be brought into the USA before this date, and we do not yet know how effective the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines the USA is using is against the new Indian variants in circulation.

 

[Riz]

India is Dalit of Quad.

India is pajeet of Quad

 

[Salman876]

India has mortality rate of 1.1% for covid. And it would need at least 40% of population to get have antibodies for herd immunity (around 550 millions). So probably 550000 deaths before herd immunity. But hoping that vaccination will fillup half of the immunity number, it will still be around 350k deaths before things come under control.

Why not just do lockdown for few days?