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Cousin Marriages Could Die Out For British Muslim Pakistanis

The damage of INTER BREEDING has already been done---.

Now even if you marry outside---those outsiders also have genetic issues---.

Too much inter breeding has taken its toll---and will keep taking it---.
But there is no increased probability that the products of different consanguinous unions will have the same problems - the chance of that is the same as if marrying someone who is not a product of consanguineity.

Consanguinous unions propagate specific defects vertically.

In any case, a decline and eventual halt of consanguinous unions is a good thing purely for genetic diversification and reducing the risk of vertical defect propagation.
 
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Government should set a minimum age limit for marriage at least 30 years for both genders to control population and to improve the lives of people
And as far as cousin marriages are concerned Jahan kisi ka dil karay shadi karay hmain Kya ha
WTF! Yahan 23 saal me control nai horaha aur tm 30 saal tak ka bolrahe ho. Bhai 'Thirst' kaise mitaoge phr?

If I personally came home one day with a black or white girl to marry, my family would lose their minds.

I dont know why theres an obsession with British-Pakistanis to marry off to a distant relative from 'back home'. The only explanation I got is that a girl from Pakistan will be more religious, good at cooking, and a good mother, but these are things that people can just learn anyway? Surely personality and intelligence are greater factors in choosing a partner?
They are ryt. U shud not marry Non Muslims firstly and liberals secondly. What if u married a British girl with liberal norms and your children come to being Homos? What will u do now? Burn in Fire? @OsmanAli98
 
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It'll never die out but what you'll find is that there will be significant decrease in marriages between first cousins, and there will be an overall decrease in marriages between people who are relatives.

For those unfamiliar with why it is so common amongst British Pakistani's here is a bit of background.

1. Pakistani society on the whole has largely been tribal, particularly in rural areas. Marriages in such cultures have predominantly been arranged and typically been within the community of people you know or have some sort of link to. In rural societies these links aren't particular far; in a geographic sense.

2. When Pakistani's migrated to Britain, they were predominantly from these rural areas. These people took their culture with them. When they had children they wanted to marry them into the communities they knew, typically these ere communities back in Pakistan.

3. At the same time poor people have found that marriage was a way of getting someone from their family to the UK, so they could also earn and send money home, strengthening the financial position of their close family. In areas like AJK, if it wasn't for expat money, we'd be living in really poor conditions.

This led to a culture being established where a lot of young people were co-erced into marrying their first cousins, under the guise of "these are the decent matches we can find for you" but in reality there was a strong dose of "it also meants my brother or sister can live the rest of their lives financially comfortably". At the same time it was also a lazy way of finding marriage partners for all involved, low risk because they knew the character of the parties involved.

This culture is dying out for several reasons;

1. The genetic risks, particularly of repeated marriage to close relatives. People are aware of this and very wary of this. Even in Pakistan people are doing genetic tests before getting married.

2. The social drawbacks. First generation and to an extent second generation immigrants weren't culturally British. We're now in our third and fourth generation. These kids speak English and only know "ammi abbu" urdu/punjabi/mirpuri. When they marry people from a culture they're not themselves immersed in, marriage becomes a bit more difficult.

3. Dealing with freshies. A lot of them from the pind have no life experience and you spend forever hand holding them through the norms of society. This is particularly difficult if you marry one of those mooch twisting ultra macho types with no real substance who feel they've been kicked in the nuts every time a woman corrects them. The adaptation period is hard, they never really get your jokes, you never really get to watch the same TV etc.

4. The British government has raised standards for spouse visas. You need to be able to speak english, your sponsor needs to be earning £21,000 a year (not a lot but above minimum wage). A lot of the community don't declare they earn that kind of cash. A lot of the pendu's can't pass the tests.

5. Clash of expectations. A lot of people a few generations ago were manual labourers, the economic disparity between those of our family in the UK and back home might have been high, but the difference is lifestyle wasn't all that much different. Today more and more boys and girls especially are educated career types. If you're making £30-40,000 a year as a professional, you don't want to give that up to live off taxi driver wages, spending your day cleaning and watching TV. The alternative often is having to work and clean/cook with no support in household chores from your FOB husband.
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I married a distant cousin from Pakistan. We're happily married but I think it helped that I was emmersed in Pakistani culture, fluent in our mirpuri language, and we had shared values. My wife wasn't from a pind, she worked in Pakistan, she had her own small business yet, when she came here her English was quite poor and her confidence suprisingly low. It took ages to get her to be independent, to research before asking questions, to try talking to white people, rather than looking at me to answer the questions addressed to her. Alhamdulillah she's adapted, she's now got qualifications, got a job, does the kids homework.

Marriage is a partnership, everyone needs to be flexible. Cousin marriages won't result in deformed babies,but can sharply increase the risk, especially through multiple generations. I still advice everyone to get to know thefamilies you marry into before you get married, we're Pakistani, we never quite marry 1 person.
 
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They are ryt. U shud not marry Non Muslims firstly and liberals secondly. What if u married a British girl with liberal norms and your children come to being Homos? What will u do now? Burn in Fire? @OsmanAli98[/QUOTE]

Who bought religion in the discussion as usual I never said marrying non-Muslims you dumb f..ck you do understand they are Muslims who are white as well like Bosniaks,Albanians,Chehcens,Turks, etc same with blacks as well and other Asians we are talking Random Uncles who just want their kids marry Pakistanis but harp on Muslim ummah all the time you get my hypocrisy and I am mixed as well my mom is Hispanic I am still Muslim whats your problem @MastanKhan
 
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They are ryt. U shud not marry Non Muslims firstly and liberals secondly. What if u married a British girl with liberal norms and your children come to being Homos? What will u do now? Burn in Fire? @OsmanAli98

lmao what the hell, chill out

Pakistanis arent incapable of being homos, even in Pakistan.

Plus even if she was strictly religious but non-Pakistani (white,black,chinese,arab), I know people would still have a problem.
 
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lmao what the hell, chill out

Pakistanis arent incapable of being homos, even in Pakistan.

Plus even if she was strictly religious but non-Pakistani (white,black,chinese,arab), I know people would still have a problem.

Yeah the problem as always these uncles make excuse "oh the food is different" low key racism tbh
 
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It's a scientific exaggeration. Muslims have been doing this for centuries. The risk that are drummed about are like 0.0000001 VS 0.00001 etc(not exact just an example) there are millions of non cousin couples with disabled children.

Islam don't forbid it. Slightly discourages it tho.
 
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Yeah the problem as always these uncles make excuse "oh the food is different" low key racism tbh

"their culture is messed up"
"they dont pray the same way as us"
"the kids will look funny"
"what will people say?!"
"you know in their own country they all..."

Atleast they are racist equally :lol:
 
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It's a scientific exaggeration. Muslims have been doing this for centuries. The risk that are drummed about are like 0.0000001 VS 0.00001 etc(not exact just an example) there are millions of non cousin couples with disabled children.

Islam don't forbid it. Slightly discourages it tho.

Well it does happen a lot in Non Muslim countries too down south and in the Mid West as well the Ultra Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn are also known to do that as well

"their culture is messed up"
"they dont pray the same way as us"
"the kids will look funny"
"what will people say?!"
"you know in their own country they all..."

Atleast they are racist equally :lol:

I hear the same b//// sh...t and nonsense whenever I hear Pakistani folks harp on Muslims suffering outside of Pakistan or ummah related stuff I ask them would you let your daughter or son marry a non Pakistani Muslim
 
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Mazel Tov. Islam don't forbid it. So as long as she's hot. I say go for it.
Well it does happen a lot in Non Muslim countries too down south and in the Mid West as well the Ultra Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn are also known to do that as well



I hear the same b//// sh...t and nonsense whenever I hear Pakistani folks harp on Muslims suffering outside of Pakistan or ummah related stuff I ask them would you let your daughter or son marry a non Pakistani Muslim
 
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It’s a stupid theory of generalising a very minimal mutation risk into a huge problem and that success rate of the hypothesis is 100%. Cousin marriages are a part of multiple cultures, religions. People just have a habit to write an article, with pea sized knowledge, ready to write what they hear and get views. Stupid article author. The bigger problem is having multiple sexual partners. STDs, AIDS, Herps, gonorrhea are inevitable, very common among regions with multiple partners. Focus on that
 
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Ok whatever floats your boat bruv

Eurasian gang but seriously Parents will keep nagging me too much bruv

The bigger problem is having multiple sexual partners. STDs, AIDS, Herps, gonorrhea are inevitable, very common among regions with multiple partners. Focus on that[/QUOTE]

I agree degenrate LGBTQZ and whatever crap is annoying
 
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They’re already dying out...In the weddings I have been spanning over 15 years I haven’t come across a single one where the bride and bridegroom were cousins.
People have moved on. Also inter cultural marriages among Pakistanis are also the norm as well.
 
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