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Could India Go the Way of Greece and Italy?

Mate , the Chinese are not bailing out Pak coz they DONT see the return.. no Offence to our Pak friends , but with the current Govt policies and stuff , its a black hole right now.. (BTW U shoudnt `ve name Pak in this scenario..its a flame bait)
OTOH... India is not a black hole.... the Chinese know they will get their returns and then some..
Well, me say this lending and borrowing , (from any side) WILL STRENGTHEN the relationship!!!
 
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Mate , the Chinese are not bailing out Pak coz they DONT see the return.. no Offence to our Pak friends , but with the current Govt policies and stuff , its a black hole right now.. (BTW U shoudnt `ve name Pak in this scenario..its a flame bait)
OTOH... India is not a black hole.... the Chinese know they will get their returns and then some..
Well, me say this lending and borrowing , (from any side) WILL STRENGTHEN the relationship!!!

But whats the all of a sudden necessity to borrow?I dont perceive any.We are doing just fine
 
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But whats the all of a sudden necessity to borrow?I dont perceive any.We are doing just fine

There is no need to borrow from external sources (read IMF bla bla)
Our fiscal deficit is high because we spend more than we can earn
But Government issues treasury bonds and bills which are used to provide the loan money to Govt
And investors will invest in them
Why ?
Because India is a devloping economy and the GDP can be sustainable at a pessimistic level of 7%
On the other hand Greece and Italy are more or less developed
They have no avaenues for so much growth
Even if their GDP increases by 1 or 2% it is matter of joy for them
And their debt has exceeded their GDP
which means their GDP is growing at 1 or 2% and they have to pay a return of 8-9% on those debt
Where will they get the money from ?
That is why they are on the point of begging

And by and by
Even when the Chinese memebers make fun of us in terms of toilet or IQ issues I am not driven by that bias
I have exterme respect for Chinese Govt
They are very smart people
We could have been as smart as them but damm our Govt !!!!
 
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Mate , the Chinese are not bailing out Pak coz they DONT see the return.. no Offence to our Pak friends , but with the current Govt policies and stuff , its a black hole right now.. (BTW U shoudnt `ve name Pak in this scenario..its a flame bait)
OTOH... India is not a black hole.... the Chinese know they will get their returns and then some..
Well, me say this lending and borrowing , (from any side) WILL STRENGTHEN the relationship!!!

Don't worrie, we are slow but on hard track.

India might well be the next Latin nations of 1970s, Brazil, or even Argentina, not even close to Italy or Greece. Her growth won't sustain after more than 10 years growth. all hassles will just storm from the growth years, problems spotted, FDI flees, that' not even unpredictable.

Inflation is the first sign of your weekness.
 
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let me add something, the US is waging a world war to saving their cripple economy, saving $. They are targeting EU at the moment, next will emerging nations.

they will choose a weak link in BRIC. Now take a look at these emerging leaders, China is the big player, the US will leave China to the last to fight. Russia and Brazil are resource rich nations and sit on huge reserves. the obvious choice is Bait India.

Sadly but this is what situation developing, I am always wondering why some Indians are so pro-US, hard to believe though.
 
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Don't worrie, we are slow but on hard track.

India might well be the next Latin nations of 1970s, Brazil, or even Argentina, not even close to Italy or Greece. Her growth won't sustain after more than 10 years growth. all hassles will just storm from the growth years, problems spotted, FDI flees, that' not even unpredictable.

Inflation is the first sign of your weekness.

Some food for your thoughts.

Comparative graph of inflation of some Asian countries

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Some food for your thoughts.

Comparative graph of inflation of some Asian countries

inflation_graph.jpg

It look like India has one of the highest inflation. Unless you want to compare India to Vietnam. But even with the high inflation, can you share the GDP per capita and infant mortality rate of India vs Vietnam?
 
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Don't worrie, we are slow but on hard track.

India might well be the next Latin nations of 1970s, Brazil, or even Argentina, not even close to Italy or Greece. Her growth won't sustain after more than 10 years growth.
So according to you,

Pakistan will be on a right track even after being in a mess right now,

but India won't be able to sustain the growth even after doing fine right now?

What kind of logic is this?
 
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anyway, a country as the size of India, that inflation is worrisome, isn't it?
 
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It look like India has one of the highest inflation. Unless you want to compare India to Vietnam. But even with the high inflation, can you share the GDP per capita and infant mortality rate of India vs Vietnam?

Compare the GDP per capita of Spain, Greece and China and figure out what are we talking about in this thread.

And are we talking about infant mortality here, TROLL.
 
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[/COLOR]Dont worry india , china will comes to your rescue
I am happy to get the Chinese assurance, but there won;t be a need of us to ask for a bail out.
Our economy may be weakened due to the international jolt in finance but we Indians have a tendency to save at least 20% of what we earn, we do not spend more than what we earn, Greeks and Italians and the whole of west has a problem of spending more than what it earns and that is the reason for them to be in the current mess. But India saves what is needed for future just like China.
 
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Some facts

Greece
Budget deficit : 10.6 % of GDP ,2010
Public Debt : 144% of GDP,2010


India
Budget deficit: approx 0.056 % of GDP , 2010
Public debt : 71.4% of GDP

India hasn't started spending cuts yet.
 
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Some facts

Greece
Budget deficit : 10.6 % of GDP ,2010
Public Debt : 144% of GDP,2010


India
Budget deficit: approx 0.056 % of GDP , 2010
Public debt : 71.4% of GDP

India hasn't started spending cuts yet.

I can't find the 2010 data but this article should give you a hint:

“India's overall deficit in FY11-12 likely to be at 8.6% of GDP: Macquarie
October 31, 2011 08:28 AM | Bookmark and Share
Moneylife Digital Team

According to global research firm Macquarie, consolidated fiscal deficit of the country including off-budget items like food, oil and fertiliser is likely to be around 8.6% amid slowing revenue growth and “lack of expenditure management by the government”

New Delhi: India’s combined fiscal deficit—of both the Centre and states—during 2011-12 could be as high as 8.6% of the gross domestic product (GDP) and any further slippage could risk a credit downgrade and loss of business confidence, reports PTI.

According to global research firm Macquarie, consolidated fiscal deficit of the country including off-budget items like food, oil and fertiliser is likely to be around 8.6% amid slowing revenue growth and “lack of expenditure management by the government”.

Macquarie further warned the country’s fiscal deficit already remained high and any further slippage can increase the risk of “credit rating downgrade and loss of business confidence”. It said the Indian government needs to adhere to the path of fiscal correction.

“We believe that the government needs to stick to its commitment of fiscal consolidation and curtail expenditure growth to create a room for private investments,” the report said.

The overall fiscal deficit in financial year 2010-11, excluding the third generation (3G) spectrum receipts stood at 9%, it said.

“This, in an environment of weak global capital markets, could result in higher cost of capital and further crowding out of private investments and thus slower growth,” it said.

Moreover, high fiscal deficit is also the main culprit responsible for high inflation, Macquarie said.

Empirical estimates suggest that a 1% increase in level of fiscal deficit could cause about a quarter of a percentage point increase in the WPI.

Inflation has remained above the RBI’s comfort zone of 5%-5.5% over the last 22 months and has averaged over 9% during this period.

As per the report, the states’ fiscal deficit, excluding the huge losses of state electricity boards (SEBs), is likely to improve from 2.8% of GDP in FY09-10 to 2.3% of GDP in FY11-12.

However, after incorporating the SEBs losses, fiscal deficit of states would widen from 2.3% of GDP to 3% of GDP in FY11-12, Macquarie said.

India’s consolidated fiscal deficit more than doubled from 4.8% of GDP in FY 07-08 to 10% of GDP in FY08-09. In FY10-11, it was 9% of GDP if revenue from allocation of telecom licence and Broadband Wireless Access (BWA) spectrum is excluded.

Before the credit crisis, India managed to achieve a consolidated deficit level of 4.8% of GDP in FY07-08, the lowest in the past two decades, largely owing to buoyant tax collection growth.

During the credit crisis, the government pursued an expansionary fiscal policy to raise domestic demand and hence there was a slowdown and a widening fiscal deficit, it said.

Besides, populist measures like—wage hikes for central government employees, pre-election spending, farm loan waivers and expansion of social security schemes like rural employment —were announced ahead of parliamentary elections in May 2009, further deteriorating the fiscal condition, Macquarie said.

“India's overall deficit in FY11-12 likely to be at 8.6% of GDP: Macquarie -
 
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