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Coronavirus - Doctors Arrested for revealing the truth


Nah, I won't get trapped for it, LOL.

1st. It is SerpentZA youtube video. Do you want to click bait me for the sake of that guy? LOL. Why should I help him to raise his viewer in Youtube. No.
2nd. SerpentZA is not a source of legit news. How do you know if what he claims is legit? It is his opinion, not a news.
3rd. SerpentZA is no longer live in China. His opinion is no longer has any weight. Where did he get that news? From rumor. He always claimed that he has a friend in China. But that is not enough. Because he doesn't witness China with his own eyes now. Only from "what his friend said".
4th. Since SerpentZA left China, he made a lot of anti china contents. So his opinion should be considered biased.
 
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He should!! He was a thieving homeless drug-addict/dealer. His rap sheet includes multiple felonies which drastically limits his ability to get work in the US. That's why he fled to China.

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You can see the "SLUT" finger tattoos mentioned is his rap sheet covered with Chinese ones.


Yeah my creep radar is usually pretty accurate. No wonder he sold his soul to the PRC, he has nowhere else to go. Lol
 
And your source is?? That image in Chinese which I don't even know where it came from, let alone read?

Above is a bulletin from Wuhan police weibo, and below is a comment from others.
The bulletin means --
On December 31, 2019, the health department of Wuhan government issued a bulletin on the epidemic situation of pneumonia. Subsequently, a number of netizens reported that someone was spreading false information on the Internet. In order to find out the situation, the public security organs investigated and verified eight people one after another. According to the investigation, eight people spread unverified information such as "there are several confirmed cases of SARS in a hospital,"seven cases of SARS have been confirmed", and "a hospital has received a family of patient suspected to be infected with SARS." According to the relevant provisions of the Public Security Administration punishment Law of the people's Republic of China, because the circumstances of the above eight people were particularly minor, the public security organs carried out education and criticism at that time, without warning, fine, or detention/arrest.

So the content claimed by OP is false. The eight men are not exactly telling the truth and have not been arrested.

By the way, I don't support the police. If Wuhan residents had taken the new coronavirus as SARS, to wear masks earlier to prevent the spread of the virus, there would not be so many infected and dead now.

从去年十二月就关注这个事件的人表示,最开始的争执确实停留在是不是SARS上。
现在看来这个病毒比SARS弱得多。
武汉市内甚至湖北省内的死亡率和省外(0.2%)比起来是异常的高,高度怀疑是因为医疗资源紧缺,大量轻症无法就医确诊导致。
 
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The outbreak probably started in December and could be contain if not for the cover up by Wuhan officals.
 
why are China’s local officials such retards?
Because they believe chinese system with no check and balance, no accountability being superior to any democracy.
 
Because it will make them look bad for advancement if when they can't deal with it and has to ask for help.
武汉的官员们不是因为害怕被问责而试图掩盖么?

最初对“人传人”的掩饰、玩弄文字游戏让大众认识不到严重性,才让疫情发展成现在的样子。

这些官员最终的结果,可能比直接揭露问题得到的处置还要严重得多。

自作孽,不可活。:coffee:
 
武汉的官员们不是因为害怕被问责而试图掩盖么?

最初对“人传人”的掩饰、玩弄文字游戏让大众认识不到严重性,才让疫情发展成现在的样子。

这些官员最终的结果,可能比直接揭露问题得到的处置还要严重得多。

自作孽,不可活。:coffee:
I feel like they understated the outbreak so that they would not close businesses and then didn’t inform the full truth to Beijing.
 
Come on @Beast you should already know my views on this issue. I was referring to other Pakistani's who have a problem.
I do understand your view but the only problem for Uyghur China is continuous spread of fake news, lies and slandering by outside source to affect their progress.
 
I do understand your view but the only problem for Uyghur China is continuous spread of fake news, lies and slandering by outside source to affect their progress.

The video I posted was a Chinese Muslim (Hui) who was criticizing other Muslim's who took joy in witnessing the suffering of the Chinese people. Henceforth, I posted the video in the hopes of convincing certain people not to politicize the current problem (virus) because they have some issue with Xinjiang. Compassion is very important in Islam and the Hui Muslim brother was highlighting this.

I do have some relatives in China but I am not really close to them as I grew up in the US.

My top candidate is Gabbard. She is the only one with the balls to take on the military industrial complex and war mongers in Washington.

I also like Yang. He’s my No. 2. I like a lot of his innovative ideas and he makes a lot of sense although I have my doubts about UBI.

I like Bernie a lot as a person but many of his policies are outdated and ideological, if implemented will likely lead to a major recession.

I actually like Trump too. Even though he is a jerk and has been a slave to AIPAC and Netanyahu with regards to the middle east, I like the fact that he’s exposed a lot of hypocrisy in our political system and the media. Although he’s a huge hypocrite and asshole himself too. He’s funny though.

In'sha'allah your family will be okay. I don't really like Gabbard she's a big advocate of BJP and there Hindutva policies. If such a person came into office and the United States tilted toward India completely then the world would be in a much dangerous place. Any future President must play a balancing role to maintain stability in the region. But I can understand your view point on why she's your top candidate. Hardly any politician has the balls to take on the military industrial complex.

I would prefer Andrew Yang winning the election. He isn't a typical politician and some of his ideas are innovative to meet the needs of the 4th industrial revolution. The biggest criticism is his policy of introducing the Freedom Dividend. I don't think its practical.

Sanders is a wonderful human being and if he was elected America would change like never before in how the economy runs, international relations and domestic policies relating to guns. His ideas may seem outdated but they have never been applied for decades.

Trump has been good for Pakistan. His tweets are refreshing and amusing to read. The political establishment hates his guts but they can't do nothing except make up bullshit allegations. I don't like his stance in the Middle East the consequences will be severe. He could have handled the trade war will China much better.
 
By the way, I don't support the police. If Wuhan residents had taken the new coronavirus as SARS, to wear masks earlier to prevent the spread of the virus, there would not be so many infected and dead now.

Yeah. The focus is not whether it's specifically SARS, but whether it's a contagious virus. Because people would've reacted the same way anyway and take precautions.

The officials are actually more guilty of 'fake news', because in this situation 'no news' is 'fake news'.

Reposting:
山上有只东北虎,看到的人说山上有只华南虎,让大家别上山,结果被捉了,说他们造谣,山上根本没老虎。后来很多人在山上被老虎咬死了,又强调那几个造谣的没说准是东北虎还是华南虎,殊不知,说山上无虎,造成大量的伤亡,才是恐慌之源,才是最大的造谣。

why are China’s local officials such retards?

Bureaucratic. Lack of accountability, and therefore complacency. 懒政、侥幸。

I've been following the news on Weibo. From their interviews, local officials seem awfully unprepared.

I don't think they are maliciously covering up, but because administrators think they know better than medical professionals. "Doctor reports indicating SARS? Overreaction, it can't be that bad".
It's a bureaucratic system. People in power think they know best when there are little check and balance, thus they make their own decisions and ignore other stakeholders.

I mean even Thailand started screening visitors from Wuhan on Jan 5. Meanwhile Wuhan is still holding celebrations and massive unabated migrations (春运) to the rest of China continued, until around Jan 20 when there are confirmed cases of human transmission.

The screening for the virus at Phuket airport has been underway since Jan 5 as there are several direct flights per day from Wuhan to the island resort province, he added.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailan...port-screening-wuhan-arrivals-for-coronavirus

Plain complacency. Even the Thais are more on their toes after experiencing SARS.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/wuhan-24-hours-after-the-lockdown.651053/page-2

It was discovered in December last year but I think local officials were too complacent.

Experts claimed that there were no evidence that it would spread from human to human, and I heard the virus wasn't even in the headlines back then. Not sure about that, but it was in Singapore's headlines even though we are pretty far away from Wuhan.

On Jan 3, Singapore/Taiwan/HK started fever screenings in our airports, while the provincial authorities are busy arresting people for spreading 'fake news'. :hitwall:

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Wuhan pneumonia outbreak spurs fever checks in Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan

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JAN 3, 2020, 3:12 PM SGT

HONG KONG (BLOOMBERG) - A mysterious pneumonia outbreak that has sickened dozens of people in China has prompted airports in Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan to introduce fever screening, as scientists search for the infectious source.

From Friday (Jan 3) evening, temperature screening will be implemented at Changi Airport for all travellers arriving from the central Chinese city of Wuhan, Singapore's Ministry of Health said.

In Hong Kong, thermal imaging systems will be deployed as part of increased fever surveillance at boundary checkpoints, authorities said.

Taiwan has implemented similar measures, its Centre for Disease Control said Tuesday.

The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said in a statement that as of 8am on Friday (Jan 3), there were 44 patients with an "unexplained diagnosis of viral pneumonia", of which 11 were critically ill. The rest of the patients were stable. All patients were being treated in Wuhan medical institutions.

The commission also tracked 121 close contacts. Its statement added that preliminary investigations show no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. The main symptom seen in patients is fever, with a few also having difficulty breathing.

Though investigations are ongoing, the commission confirmed that some cases involved operators in the Wuhan South China Seafood City.

The market, which has since been closed, sold birds, pheasants, and snakes, along with organs of rabbits and other wildlife, the Centre for Infectious Disease Research and Policy in Minneapolis said on Thursday, citing local media reports.

That has triggered worries about the potential jump of an unknown virus to humans - reminiscent of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or Sars, which killed almost 800 people about 17 years ago.

The World Health Organisation said it has activated an incident management team over the Wuhan cases to "ensure disease detection systems are sensitive, communication channels are open, and reporting is rapid across the region," the South China Morning Post reported.
Investigations are still under way and authorities haven't yet confirmed the pathogen that is causing the illness, Ms Paige Snider, a WHO spokeswoman, told the paper.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology didn't respond to an e-mailed request for comment on the infectious source.

FAKE NEWS
Several people were arrested for circulating fake news online about the viral spread of pneumonia, provincial authorities said, adding that rumours on social media alleging that there had been an outbreak of Sars are untrue and no person-to-person transmission has been found so far.

Three travelers from Wuhan were admitted to hospitals in Hong Kong, though two were subsequently released, the South China Morning Post reported late Thursday. The city has not received any Wuhan-related severe pneumonia cases, Secretary for Food and Health Sophia Chan told reporters on Thursday.

Singapore asked doctors to look out for suspected cases of pneumonia among people who have recently returned from Wuhan.

"Suspect cases with fever and acute respiratory illness or pneumonia and with travel history to Wuhan within 14 days before onset of symptoms will be isolated as a precautionary measure to prevent transmission," the city-state's Ministry of Health said in a Facebook post.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...rs-fever-checks-in-singapore-hong-kong-taiwan

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But things were still normal in Wuhan. Even when Thailand started conducting fever screenings in their airports on Jan 5, Wuhan residents were still allowed to roam freely all over China without checks, and celebrations/events with large-scale human concentration continued.

Heck, in Jianghan district where the virus originated, residents were still having a large feast with 40k families participating in it on 19 Jan 2020. There were already 3 fatalities at that time.

You can see the total lack of awareness, initiative and the complacency of local officials. :hitwall:

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On Jan 20 human transmission was confirmed. Storm broke out. New confirmed cases start coming out from then on.

On Jan 23 Wuhan was locked down and the rest is history. A very drastic move, but I guess it was an order from the central government. They are probably pissed with the local government in Wuhan.

@8888888888888 @CHN Bamboo

Correct me if I got anything wrong.

An example of how excess censorship made the problem worse:

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:cheesy:

The local officials need to be held accountable.
 
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In'sha'allah your family will be okay. I don't really like Gabbard she's a big advocate of BJP and there Hindutva policies. If such a person came into office and the United States tilted toward India completely then the world would be in a much dangerous place. Any future President must play a balancing role to maintain stability in the region. But I can understand your view point on why she's your top candidate. Hardly any politician has the balls to take on the military industrial complex.

I would prefer Andrew Yang winning the election. He isn't a typical politician and some of his ideas are innovative to meet the needs of the 4th industrial revolution. The biggest criticism is his policy of introducing the Freedom Dividend. I don't think its practical.

Sanders is a wonderful human being and if he was elected America would change like never before in how the economy runs, international relations and domestic policies relating to guns. His ideas may seem outdated but they have never been applied for decades.

Trump has been good for Pakistan. His tweets are refreshing and amusing to read. The political establishment hates his guts but they can't do nothing except make up bullshit allegations. I don't like his stance in the Middle East the consequences will be severe. He could have handled the trade war will China much better.

I guess if I was Pakistani, I wouldn't like Gabbard for her closeness to India. As an American though, her being Hindu is just a weird or interesting quirk. For me, what is relevant is her fight against the MIC and the courage it takes to do that. So she has won my respect.

Andrew Yang has great ideas, but I don't know if he was cut out for the filthiness and dirtiness of politics. But as an Asian American, I'm glad he's out there showing that Asians can be Americans too and can contribute great ideas to our political sphere.

Bernie is a great human being. I might still vote for him when the day comes. Haven't decided yet. I think he will win Iowa and I think he is the favored to win the whole nomination. Not really sold on his overly socialist economic policies but I think the opposition will likely mitigate some of the more extreme parts of his policies.

As for Trump, yeah he is a circus and a shitshow. All that only adds to his popularity among his camp. It makes him appear more genuine and authentic. Yeah, I don't think he's handled the trade war with China particularly well but he wouldn't have done it any other way. His method is to push everything to the brink to see how much he can get, then pull back and settle for what is achievable. I like the fact that he's not a neoliberal hypocrite.
 

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