Contingency

[Ahmet Pasha]

Is there a plan somewhere in MoD or the tri services that prepares us for the worst case scenario. If for some reason Pakistan/it's armed forces are over-run by the enemy. In this case is there a plan to establish and run a covert resistance group like the Afghan Taliban or French resistance.

In such a scenario how can patriot Pakistanis and patriot muslim ummatis join the cause against India?

How can we enter Pakistan to join the fight bcz air space is closed in wartime?

How can local and overseas Pakistanis support the fight against India through logistical and monetary means? Through soft power as well perhaps?

Afterall, Soviets were defeated through muslims all over the world uniting against atheist soviets in Afghanistan, Chechniya and Bosnia. This won't become a Syria like situation bcz Deash/ISIS was a US/Israeli creation to lure muslims into a fake "caliphate" and to their slaughter eventually. And in our case one side is Pakistan and on other side is mushrik India and it's evil allies.

YES we do have a small but well organized, experienced, lethal military. But this thread is only for discussing backup/contingency plan for Pakistani people and the armed forces. Because I have a very strong feeling that if India attacks. There will be heavy support to India from the super-powers especially US and Israel and their proxies included.

@StormBreaker @Retired Troll et al

 

[StormBreaker]

Lol, There is 0.00000% chance of this happening...

You are giving indians more credit than they distantly deserve.

Have you ever met one ?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I know ALL that. But lets just discuss this scenario for arguments sake

Lol, There is 0.00000% chance of this happening...

You are giving indians more credit than they distantly deserve.

Have you ever met one ?

 

[StormBreaker]

I know ALL that. But lets just discuss this scenario for arguments sake

It is impossible...

 

[YeBeWarned]

In a limited and concentrated skirmish Pakistan will dominate India, we have highly trained and battle hardened forces, I dare say even better than some EU Armies . The only Disadvantage Pakistan has that if India open multiple front than our forces will be stretched Thin, and India can use their large numbers to push inside Pakistan .. but that can be fixed with Volunteers, as they will flock in Millions to help PA . And as I always say Pakistan (if Defending) will have good chance of holding on to Indian Push, cause IA will need ratio of 1:3 to be successful .

 

[pakpride00090]

In a limited and concentrated skirmish Pakistan will dominate India, we have highly trained and battle hardened forces, I dare say even better than some EU Armies . The only Disadvantage Pakistan has that if India open multiple front than our forces will be stretched Thin, and India can use their large numbers to push inside Pakistan .. but that can be fixed with Volunteers, as they will flock in Millions to help PA . And as I always say Pakistan (if Defending) will have good chance of holding on to Indian Push, cause IA will need ratio of 1:3 to be successful .

For that you need millions of men with basic military training. Untrained people are liability , even in defense. I don't know why national scout programs were abandoned. Had every male under the age of 40 given 6-8 months of BMT, Pakistan would have been in very good position.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

What if Americans jump in with their "freedom, liberty, democracy, persuit of happiness" bull shit to help Indians?

In a limited and concentrated skirmish Pakistan will dominate India, we have highly trained and battle hardened forces, I dare say even better than some EU Armies . The only Disadvantage Pakistan has that if India open multiple front than our forces will be stretched Thin, and India can use their large numbers to push inside Pakistan .. but that can be fixed with Volunteers, as they will flock in Millions to help PA . And as I always say Pakistan (if Defending) will have good chance of holding on to Indian Push, cause IA will need ratio of 1:3 to be successful .

How can we set up a guerilla resistance movement like Afghan Taliban or Iraqi resistance against USA in Pakistan?

 

[pakpride00090]

What if Americans jump in with their "freedom, liberty, democracy, persuit of happiness" bull shit to help Indians?

The only deterrent to that is Backyard bomb. Anything short of that and we are doomed.

 

[YeBeWarned]

For that you need millions of men with basic military training. Untrained people are liability , even in defense. I don't know why national scout programs were abandoned. Had every male under the age of 40 given 6-8 months of BMT, Pakistan would have been in very good position.

such Civilians were never used in offensive Missions, but they will replace the soldiers on non combat duties , and as forming defensive Lines in Sindh and Thar Desert . Lets not undermine the Tribal Lashkar and their will for Fight the Hindu's , Trust me when I say that if they were given a chance with PAF covering their heads and Artillery backing they can do wonders for you in Kashmir region .

 

[maverick1977]

In a limited and concentrated skirmish Pakistan will dominate India, we have highly trained and battle hardened forces, I dare say even better than some EU Armies . The only Disadvantage Pakistan has that if India open multiple front than our forces will be stretched Thin, and India can use their large numbers to push inside Pakistan .. but that can be fixed with Volunteers, as they will flock in Millions to help PA . And as I always say Pakistan (if Defending) will have good chance of holding on to Indian Push, cause IA will need ratio of 1:3 to be successful .

ther should be mandatory 1 week training for able bodied pakiatanis in a year between ages of 15-45

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

I don't think either militaries will jump for the nuclear option.

We(Pakistan) MIGHT use tac nuke weapons only if the war drags on longer than Pakistan expected.

The only deterrent to that is Backyard bomb. Anything short of that and we are doomed.

 

[YeBeWarned]

What if Americans jump in with their "freedom, liberty, democracy, persuit of happiness" bull shit to help Indians?


How can we set up a guerilla resistance movement like Afghan Taliban or Iraqi resistance against USA in Pakistan?

Well US will not jump in I can assure you, because if US jump in so will China and hence the regional war will become World war , We don't need to create any hostile militia against US because our relationship with them is on bare minimum , US will covertly help India and so will Israel but don't forget that you will get help from China KSA and Turkey ..

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

India is sure to bring in the asymmetric aspect into the whole thing. Because they feel (rightly so upto a certain extent) that asymmetric is their speciality.

My point is if through some unforseen reason/miracle India, it's superpower allies and it's proxies manage to gain a conventional victory. How can we start a guerilla warfare in Pakistan?

 

[YeBeWarned]

ther should be mandatory 1 week training for able bodied pakiatanis in a year between ages of 15-45

You really think Pakistani's need Training ? these Tribal Lashkers are as battle hardened as Indian BSF ..if not more

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

such Civilians were never used in offensive Missions, but they will replace the soldiers on non combat duties , and as forming defensive Lines in Sindh and Thar Desert . Lets not undermine the Tribal Lashkar and their will for Fight the Hindu's , Trust me when I say that if they were given a chance with PAF covering their heads and Artillery backing they can do wonders for you in Kashmir region .

Count me and several hundred thousand overseas Pakistanis in. Want some gangu hindu blood after all they have done to the muslims.

It seems in this time of human history. War/struggle/G-Had is soon going to become destiny of muslims. I don't think persecution/concentration camps will just stop in India, Burma, China etc. I think whatever model is deemed most effective against muslims will be replicated globally. But this is a topic for a different thread altogether.

China KSA and Turkey

I wouldn't count too much on first two especially China and Rich GCC arabs.
Turkey yes no matter in what capacity.
Qatar maybe.
Rest we will have to fight by ourselves like Afghan Taliban.
Ideally our diplomatic-military posture should not be count much on foreign aid/international intervention. Especially in recent times when UN has lost it's value and reduced to a speech club.