Conflict between Russia and Israel - a matter of time

[dani958]

Conflict between Russia and Israel - a matter of time
IDF is very concerned about the increased Russian military presence in the Middle East that includes advanced missile systems and an intelligence operation that collects sensitive information about Israel. "We were surprised by the quantity and quality of Russian weapons in here," say senior officers in private conversations
Nir bees | News 2 | Posted 10/30/16 11:27
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IDF panic - no one will admit it publicly but in private conversations they say senior officers in the air force and navy intensity of the Russian presence in the Middle East is of great concern, "we did not appreciate that it would, we were surprised to quantity and quality of Russian weapons in here." It affects dramatically the way two arms, air and sea, Israel's strategic arms, running now.

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Air Force and Navy were used to complete freedom of action in which the fly and swim where you want and when, without a real threat. As attributed to the IDF according to foreign sources, the forces gathering intelligence operations raids, attacks on convoys of weapons, conventional weapons depots, sailing against the distant shores - gathering intelligence without interruption and many covert operatives.

Now the situation has changed. It was once customary to say: "If you want to know what really planning to President - Check where its aircraft carriers." Well, the only aircraft carrier of Russia, "Admiral Kuznetsov", is on its way from the North Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean, and the army Followers with great concern the progress. It is scheduled to dock off the coast of Syria in the coming weeks.

Russian aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov"



Russian aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov"
Kuznetsov's task force includes about 1,900 sailors on board, more than 50 advanced fighter jets, modern air defense systems, radars and electronic warfare capabilities in the world. The task force has, among other things, anti-submarine capability, ships with a variety of types of missiles and advanced capabilities in the field of aerial and intelligence gathering.

Already there is another factor to monitor any movement in Israel, and is not American. Russian, Indian defense establishment knows every movement of aircraft or cruise in Israel. There is no way to evade radars Russian, and now they collect intelligence information on Israel quantities - by all means: observation, radar and listening.

Many months ago, the Russians announced that they leave Syria. Since then, they sent more ground troops into the ring, put the order in force fighters and put their arena surface-to-air missile ranges of over 200 kilometers - those who are able to employ cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles. These days they also reinforce the power maritime arena, simultaneously reducing US naval power, in the Mediterranean.

Confrontation air?



Confrontation air? | Photo: Reuters
In connection with surface-to-air missile systems and advanced, S400 or S300, have been or will soon be like Egypt, Syria, Russia, India and Iran. To avoid doubts and confusions: the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman announced the retirement specifically surface-to-air missile, and warned the Russians will fire at anything unidentified Shiaahsed by them as if he were running against them and against the Assad regime.

Among other things, he said, or hinted: "If anyone thinks he can hide behind stealth technologies - so should think again." Here is another reason why Israel is so keen on the stealth aircraft - the F35. Israel believes the Russians are unable to track the elusive and this is almost the only way to operate above the Middle East without being detected by them.

Russian fighter jets



Russian fighter planes | Photo: Reuters
Russian parliament "approved" or "ratified" to deploy the Russian air force in Syria - without a time limit. And Israel found itself in a situation where a significant portion of its interest in areas covered by missiles S300 and S400 missiles, possibly for decades ahead.

This increases the chances of ever more conflict - the sky or the sea - the Russian Israeli tools. Israel also already know that this moment is approaching. Not just came out a few months ago, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Moscow and took him to visit the Air Force Commander, Major General Amir Eshel. These two first understand the prevalence and sensitivity of the events.


Russia already uses Syria in S300 stationed on ships docked at the port of Tartus sometimes northwestern state. Placing the improved system S400 land, also has implications for Israel, because all flights of the Air Force over Lebanon and Syria now absorbed into the new system.

Even earlier it was doubtful whether the Israeli air force could attack if necessary targets in northern Syria, in view of placing Russian planes there. The system has a very wide detection range that extends now into Israeli airspace. Takeoffs and landings of civil aircraft at Ben Gurion Airport will be identified by the system as all Air Force operations in Lebanon or in its vicinity.

Clash - only a matter of time

And Major General Eshel, Netanyahu went to Moscow urgently to create a mechanism to prevent unwanted collisions. Air Force say all the time that have been defined "demilitarized zones" where Israel can not operate, but there is a mutual understanding between soldiers which places they can run and when. Russia is not an enemy force officials explained: "We try to avoid friction with the Russians, and they are trying to avoid frictions with us."

Only the Russians do not really count us (regardless of the UNESCO vote), and do what they want in the area. Since the construction of two drones were shot down mechanism Russians and almost scrape Israeli warplanes Russian. Two surface-to-air missile fired at Israeli planes, but the argument was that the Syrian anti-aircraft battery.

Russia's interests in Syria are very broad and include cooperation with the greatest enemies of Israel. Syria - Iran backs Assad regime - and participates in attacks on Aleppo, including with ground forces and in coordination with Russia, supposedly "against" the forces supported by the United States. And so we seek cooperation with Moscow, which operates with Iran and support for Assad. And who knows what interest overcomes some.

Thus, the first time in four decades, pilots and sailors Israelis are not alone in the arena. The rulers no longer space. Collision is, it seems, is only a matter of time.
http://www.mako.co.il/news-military...51004.htm?sCh=3d385dd2dd5d4110&pId=1898243326
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[T-72]

I hope not, Russians are doing good work in Syria killing terrorists.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Last thing on earth to happen.

 

[19887]

Conflict between Russia and Israel - a matter of time
IDF is very concerned about the increased Russian military presence in the Middle East that includes advanced missile systems and an intelligence operation that collects sensitive information about Israel. "We were surprised by the quantity and quality of Russian weapons in here," say senior officers in private conversations
Nir bees | News 2 | Posted 10/30/16 11:27
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IDF panic - no one will admit it publicly but in private conversations they say senior officers in the air force and navy intensity of the Russian presence in the Middle East is of great concern, "we did not appreciate that it would, we were surprised to quantity and quality of Russian weapons in here." It affects dramatically the way two arms, air and sea, Israel's strategic arms, running now.

Additional updates and sending your stories - Log News 2 Facebook

Air Force and Navy were used to complete freedom of action in which the fly and swim where you want and when, without a real threat. As attributed to the IDF according to foreign sources, the forces gathering intelligence operations raids, attacks on convoys of weapons, conventional weapons depots, sailing against the distant shores - gathering intelligence without interruption and many covert operatives.

Now the situation has changed. It was once customary to say: "If you want to know what really planning to President - Check where its aircraft carriers." Well, the only aircraft carrier of Russia, "Admiral Kuznetsov", is on its way from the North Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean, and the army Followers with great concern the progress. It is scheduled to dock off the coast of Syria in the coming weeks.

Russian aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov"



Russian aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov"
Kuznetsov's task force includes about 1,900 sailors on board, more than 50 advanced fighter jets, modern air defense systems, radars and electronic warfare capabilities in the world. The task force has, among other things, anti-submarine capability, ships with a variety of types of missiles and advanced capabilities in the field of aerial and intelligence gathering.

Already there is another factor to monitor any movement in Israel, and is not American. Russian, Indian defense establishment knows every movement of aircraft or cruise in Israel. There is no way to evade radars Russian, and now they collect intelligence information on Israel quantities - by all means: observation, radar and listening.

Many months ago, the Russians announced that they leave Syria. Since then, they sent more ground troops into the ring, put the order in force fighters and put their arena surface-to-air missile ranges of over 200 kilometers - those who are able to employ cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles. These days they also reinforce the power maritime arena, simultaneously reducing US naval power, in the Mediterranean.

Confrontation air?



Confrontation air? | Photo: Reuters
In connection with surface-to-air missile systems and advanced, S400 or S300, have been or will soon be like Egypt, Syria, Russia, India and Iran. To avoid doubts and confusions: the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman announced the retirement specifically surface-to-air missile, and warned the Russians will fire at anything unidentified Shiaahsed by them as if he were running against them and against the Assad regime.

Among other things, he said, or hinted: "If anyone thinks he can hide behind stealth technologies - so should think again." Here is another reason why Israel is so keen on the stealth aircraft - the F35. Israel believes the Russians are unable to track the elusive and this is almost the only way to operate above the Middle East without being detected by them.

Russian fighter jets



Russian fighter planes | Photo: Reuters
Russian parliament "approved" or "ratified" to deploy the Russian air force in Syria - without a time limit. And Israel found itself in a situation where a significant portion of its interest in areas covered by missiles S300 and S400 missiles, possibly for decades ahead.

This increases the chances of ever more conflict - the sky or the sea - the Russian Israeli tools. Israel also already know that this moment is approaching. Not just came out a few months ago, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Moscow and took him to visit the Air Force Commander, Major General Amir Eshel. These two first understand the prevalence and sensitivity of the events.


Russia already uses Syria in S300 stationed on ships docked at the port of Tartus sometimes northwestern state. Placing the improved system S400 land, also has implications for Israel, because all flights of the Air Force over Lebanon and Syria now absorbed into the new system.

Even earlier it was doubtful whether the Israeli air force could attack if necessary targets in northern Syria, in view of placing Russian planes there. The system has a very wide detection range that extends now into Israeli airspace. Takeoffs and landings of civil aircraft at Ben Gurion Airport will be identified by the system as all Air Force operations in Lebanon or in its vicinity.

Clash - only a matter of time

And Major General Eshel, Netanyahu went to Moscow urgently to create a mechanism to prevent unwanted collisions. Air Force say all the time that have been defined "demilitarized zones" where Israel can not operate, but there is a mutual understanding between soldiers which places they can run and when. Russia is not an enemy force officials explained: "We try to avoid friction with the Russians, and they are trying to avoid frictions with us."

Only the Russians do not really count us (regardless of the UNESCO vote), and do what they want in the area. Since the construction of two drones were shot down mechanism Russians and almost scrape Israeli warplanes Russian. Two surface-to-air missile fired at Israeli planes, but the argument was that the Syrian anti-aircraft battery.

Russia's interests in Syria are very broad and include cooperation with the greatest enemies of Israel. Syria - Iran backs Assad regime - and participates in attacks on Aleppo, including with ground forces and in coordination with Russia, supposedly "against" the forces supported by the United States. And so we seek cooperation with Moscow, which operates with Iran and support for Assad. And who knows what interest overcomes some.

Thus, the first time in four decades, pilots and sailors Israelis are not alone in the arena. The rulers no longer space. Collision is, it seems, is only a matter of time.
http://www.mako.co.il/news-military...51004.htm?sCh=3d385dd2dd5d4110&pId=1898243326
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I hope not, Russians are doing good work in Syria killing terrorists.

Last thing on earth to happen.

A short lesson about israel for you all.
When anonymous officials speak with the media about the war(any war)that coming,they want legitimate to add more money to the defense budget. This is usually comes after the budget has been approved, and they need "something unusual" to add more money to the budget.like in the last time they released messages of intimidation to the media and it end with raising their pension.

 

[T-72]

A short lesson about israel for you all.
When anonymous officials speak with the media about the war(any war)that coming,they want legitimate to add more money to the defense budget. This is usually comes after the budget has been approved, and they need "something unusual" to add more money to the budget.like in the last time they released messages of intimidation to the media and it end with raising their pension.

probably a bit of that too but things are very hot in your neighbouring Syria, and I don't know what kind of gamble the Israelis are taking with by (sort of) siding with extremist sunnis in that civil war.. I think we'll have a lot more clarity of how that situation goes once we have a result for the US elections.

Personally, I hope it's Trump and that he and Putin bomb the shit out of all jihadi groups in the region, such an outcome will serve both Israel and the rest of the world well.

 

[dani958]

we can beat them

 

[19887]

probably a bit of that too but things are very hot in your neighbouring Syria, and I don't know what kind of gamble the Israelis are taking with by (sort of) siding with extremist sunnis in that civil war.. I think we'll have a lot more clarity of how that situation goes once we have a result for the US elections.

Personally, I hope it's Trump and that he and Putin bomb the shit out of all jihadi groups in the region, such an outcome will serve both Israel and the rest of the world well.

Our problem is iran and her proxies.

 

[dani958]

russia anti israel

 

[19887]

russia anti israel

Russia *is* anti israel

 

[T-72]

Our problem is iran and her proxies.

but they're only interested in Syria for now, Hezzies already have the Lebanon border with Israel. I don't think pro Assad factions in the civil war represent a threat to the state of Israel for now, do you ?

 

[fitpOsitive]

A short lesson about israel for you all.
When anonymous officials speak with the media about the war(any war)that coming,they want legitimate to add more money to the defense budget. This is usually comes after the budget has been approved, and they need "something unusual" to add more money to the budget.like in the last time they released messages of intimidation to the media and it end with raising their pension.

This is very tactic used by the Military bureaucracies through out the world. Thats why military guys are rich besides the fact that their salaries are not that high.

 

[19887]

but they're only interested in Syria for now, Hezzies already have the Lebanon border with Israel. I don't think pro Assad factions in the civil war represent a threat to the state of Israel for now, do you ?

They will,thats the plan

This is very tactic used by the Military bureaucracies through out the world. Thats why military guys are rich besides the fact that their salaries are not that high.

you are 100% right bro

 

[omega supremme]

Jews are not fools, it took them thousands of years to make a small state. They won't lose it so easily by acting foolishly, Russia is not some Arabs who don't use brains or playing in someone hands, they have their own plannings and strategies. Israel is a joke for Russians if they want to undo it but it does not support their interests.


NOTE: After all Israel is a market for Russians to export their weapons to Arabs, why fight such a indirect ally helping in boosting their economy.

 

[dani958]

Jews are not fools, it took them thousands of years to make a small state. They won't lose it so easily by acting foolishly, Russia is not some Arabs who don't use brains or playing in someone hands, they have their own plannings and strategies. Israel is a joke for Russians if they want to undo it but it does not support their interests.


NOTE: After all Israel is a market for Russians to export their weapons to Arabs, why fight such a indirect ally helping in boosting their economy.

not jokes we can nuke them and they us both sucide
usa will help us

 

[MadDog]

Our problem is iran and her proxies.

I think its a strategic blunder on Israel's part, IS and other radical groups pose a larger threat in the long term. Hezbullah is under Iran's influence, it is an organized group, which will shed off israel hatred, once iran-israel rapprochement happens, since a moderate govt is in power and Iran's relations with west are improving.