Comparison of Asian national space programs

[SOHEIL]

here is the ranking IMO

1)China
2)Japan
3)India
4)Iran
5) the rest are not very good

in 2020

1)China
2)Japan
3)Iran
4)India

i think israel is ahead of iran

i am working in ISA , it's wrong

 

[oFFbEAT]

in 2020

1)China
2)Japan
3)Iran
4)India

Well, with corruption eating away our economy.......by 2020, India might slide down to 10-15

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

in 2020

1)China
2)Japan
3)Iran
4)India





i am working in ISA , it's wrong

When will Iran conduct its own manned mission? I guess around 2018-2020?

 

[poseidon]

When will Iran conduct its own manned mission? I guess around 2018-2020?

Yes
........................................

 

[SOHEIL]

When will Iran conduct its own manned mission? I guess around 2018-2020?

2019

we are working on a solid fuel rocket with 4m diameter ...

 

[timetravel]

Can you break down with facts? Plain talk is useless...

Its time for you to bend over and reach in deep for this one.

incorrect it's not the Chinese space program is ahead now your either speaking on blind nationalism.

Fact is India is hindered by the inability to Launch Heavier Payloads.... Or else India would easily do all that China has done much before..

Example Space walk or man in space..

Firstly India needs heavier lifting capacity (why India does not have is lack Indians don't rely on unsafe rockets like the chinese do. Everyone has seen how chinese rocket launches have killed civilians in thousands. So until Indians have perfected the best technology India wont take such risk )

Secondly India has less funds or else India can easily do this space adventure, but India prefers to prioritize its funds allocation (Example India has the biggest group of remote sensing satellites in the world. Indian space program has benefited the civilians the most then any other space program in the world,with the amount of funds available.)

So this space walk of something is no big deal for India.

Secondly coming to the facts of Indian Space Program check below for real facts:

China's only advantage - it can lift more (they relied on unsafe rockets, commercially India is more successful then China)

India Chandrayan Discovered water on moon. one of biggest achievements for mankind. Now that is called SUCCESS AND GREATNESS.

Indians Launched 10 satellites in one go ( Now chinese will say that they together weighted less, bu t forgive them as their small brains are unable to capture that it is a world record, that Russia failed to launch 8 at a time, that launching 1000 satellites at one go, weighting 2 ton is more 1000X more difficult then launching 1 3 tonne satelliete. So more u launch more complex it becomes)

Thirdly Indian space programme has ZERO civilian casualties whereas China has thousads of killed (Shows how mature Indian tech is once it is being used)

Fourthly Indian MARS programme is schedules in next couple of years ( just think if India had GSLV that could have occured much earlier. China is still dreaming about it despite having MUCH BIGGER ECONOMY, BUDGET and also the Heavy Lift Rocket to Lauch that :loL: Shows how much incapable China is that despite having such heavy lift capacity for DECADES could not launch MARS rover. Whereas India will do it ASAP as it has the heavy lift capacity. Even if China does mars programme somehow 1 year before India that cannot hide the incapability and long gap between China heavy lift capability and Mars rover programme. that is a joke on China )

Also Indian Moon Programme is aroud the same time as Chinese (again give India the funds, ISRO would do it 6-7 years before China and not on same time or maybe 1/2 years later)

indian Space orogramme has the benefit of collaboration with the best like the RUSSIANS and the ISRAELIS and the US, FRENCH and others ( U cant DENY THE BENEFITS OF SUCH Cooperative learning compared to the banging ur head against the wall by the ISOLATED Chinese program)

India SPACE programme is more organised, Fruitful, systematic, has got the priorities right and has more talented SCIENTISTS then China any DAY. So overall Indian Space Programme is above the Chinese Space Programme.

The end products of ISRO are more SUCCESSFUL then Chinese ones.

Now I rest my case. Let the chinese come and troll and do personal attacks now. Chinese just have one logic if I go to any thread, if it is China then it is better thats what small brain children do in schools

 

[SOHEIL]

Well, with corruption eating away our economy.......by 2020, India might slide down to 10-15

i don't think so

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

2019

we are working on a solid fuel rocket with 4m diameter ...

That rocket should have a LEO around 10-12 tons which is pretty close to our present CZ-3B.

 

[SOHEIL]

That rocket should have a LEO around 10-12 tons which is pretty close to our present CZ-3B.

no , 18 - 22 tons

 

[punjabimunda]

in 2020

1)China
2)Japan
3)Iran
4)India





i am working in ISA , it's wrong

loll seriously soheil????
ur making me laugh.
the biggest iranian rocket is smaller than indian missile. u guys dont even know what a cryogenic engine means???
by 2020 india will have gslv mk3 lvm3,lvm 4 and lvm5 all using 2000kn semi cryogenic stage. max list capacity will be 16000 to 18000 kg and will be working on nxt heavy rocket.

india has already built mastered and tested cryogenic upper stage. this is the most complex of a rocket, u cnat be a space power if u havnt built this.
india is a world leader is building satellites and in 14 months from now will have its own gps covering asia.

today india has almost everything to launch humans into space, the only reason why we havnt done is that isro has still to prove the reliability of gslv to govt. human space flight is the main thing that we r behind china and should be catching up soon after gslv proves reliable.

u think iran can beat india in all this lets see

no , 18 - 22 tons

can u show me the designs of the rocket ur talking about, not those fancy drawings that iranians make for fun.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

no , 18 - 22 tons

So this means the miniaturization technology of the solid fuel must be better, since those 20-25 tons LEO rockets like Delta IV/Ariane/H-IIB/Proton/CZ-5 all have the diameter around 5 meters.

 

[poseidon]

punjabimunda
he said in 2020 you dumb ***.

Besides Iran will take over India in 2018 in science:

As per SCImago ranking for future science production Iran might become the world's fourth largest science producer in 2018 and ranking just behind China, US and UK. Here is the link to complete ranking for top 50 countries in 2018
http://www.scimagolab.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/forecasting-excercise.pdf


by then Iran could easily had gone above India.
your problem is jealousy.

 

[oFFbEAT]

@punjabimunda, There is no need to get all worked up....look at the rate at which Iran and India are progressing

 

[SOHEIL]

So this means the miniaturization technology of the solid fuel must be better, since those 20-25 tons LEO rocket like Delta IV/Ariane/H-IIB/Proton/CZ-5 all have the diameter around 5 meters.

yes !

but i am talking about a 4m diameter solid fuel with new generation fuel

 

[buddyboyyash]

punjabimunda
he said in 2020 you dumb ***.

Besides Iran will take over India in 2018 in science:

As per SCImago ranking for future science production Iran might become the world's fourth largest science producer in 2018 and ranking just behind China, US and UK. Here is the link to complete ranking for top 50 countries in 2018
http://www.scimagolab.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/forecasting-excercise.pdf

u know the future??....ur god...

predictions and estimates are something not very reliable...they are all based on whats happening today...till 2020 ISRO wont be a silent spectator...

yes !

but i am talking about a 4m diameter solid fuel with new generation fuel

whats the heaviest sat launched till date??...last launch was in 2011 ryt??