Featured COAS Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Saudi deputy defence minister discuss security issues

[Adonis]

World is changing and we must adopt to it. Greater Israel movement is in full swing in Arab league. Saudi, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt helped Crusaders destroyed Iraq, Syria and Libya. Iran, Pakistan and Turkey are saved so far even though remapping ME plan also included them.
Saudis are pushing Pakistan to except Israel and be in their champ but Pakistan said no.
When we forget our history and make decisions in haste, we make mistakes.

Rightly Said.....question is at what point of time you start considering it as your history...and whether history itself is based on truth or re-written to suit your agenda...you know what I mean.

When every other country aligns, disengages, make friends and foes based on national interests and not (emotional criteria)...why can't we do it. The day we stop deciding and thinking from lenses of religion...we will prosper.

 

[jupiter2007]

Rightly Said.....question is at what point of time you start considering it as your history...and whether history itself is based on truth or re-written to suit your agenda...you know what I mean.

When every other country aligns, disengages, make friends and foes based on national interests and not (emotional criteria)...why can't we do it. The day we stop deciding and thinking from lenses of religion...we will prosper.

regardless of which lens you use to look at the world, there is always a fight between good vs Evil, within ourselves and society at large. There are forces who wants to destroy you and they will use all the resources available even if it means to force you to pick sides or modify your foreign policy to benefit them. Some people ignore internal and external events that are unfolding even though they are interconnected. We must recognize our enemy and their agents who are hiding among us. We must pay attention to their activities and predict what their plans are how they plan to hurt us. I believe in proactive approach rather then waiting for things to unfold. Most of our politicians are working on the interest of foreign countries/agencies. They don’t have an ounces of Patriotism and they only care about their packets and want to stay in power. Some countries don’t want us to be nuclear state so they will try different plans to make us internally weak (political unrest, terrorism, sanctions, etc) and try different plans to turn Pakistan into Syria.

Utter rubbish. Greater Israel is nothing but an internet meme. Iraq, Syria and Libya were destroyed by Saddam, Assad and Gaddafi respectively. Pakistan should worry about becoming China's slave instead of the Middle East situation.

Absorbing Palestinian land into Israel is part of the greater Israel plan.

Here is the history of our region:

• Afghan leadership invited Soviet Union into Afghanistan because of internal politics. I am not sure if it was western plan or Soviet Union failed to realize that they can't capture Afghanistan.
• USA used us (Pakistan army and Mujahideen) to fight Soviet Union and once their plan was done, they left us dry with Mujahideen and civil war in Afghanistan.
• Afghan war caused the dissolution of the Soviet Union which changed the world from bi-polar world to uni-polar world.
• USA supported Iraq during Iraq - Iran war, got cheap oil and sold their weapon to Iraq because they want these two countries to be weak.
• USA persuaded Iraq to invade Kuwait since Kuwait was originally part of Iraq but later went against it and we know the whole story.
• Israel can have nuclear weapon but non friendly countries can't have any advance weapons.
• USA and their puppet states allowed Israel to attack, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
• USA put sanctions on Iran to turn it into Somalia
• USA used Arab proxy to attack Asad in Syria because it was the only counrty left which can stand in the way of Greater Israel.
• USA supported the military coup in Turkey.
• USA, Zardari, General Kayani (who was offered job in pentagon by USA) created the event in Abbotabad to capture OBL (which we all know that he was dead for along time and his family was living in that house) for some weapons and money. We also know the most of those Navy seals involved in the operation are dead due to some accidents.
• Saudi and UAE wanted Pakistani support to defeat Houthis in Yemen.
• Libya was destroyed with the help from Arabs proxies.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Pakistan should worry about becoming China's slave instead of the Middle East situation.

So you reveal your true identity, Indian.

Perhaps you dont know what the two blue lines on the Israel flag mean..One is the River Euphrates and the other the River Nile.And whats in between its founding fathers originally wanted to have..
lol first decide if we are slave of china or usa. the real slaves are indian muslim who run away to Canada and think they have achieved freedom.



Afghanistan has officially accepted Durand line as a border..What you hear is fantasy greater afghan dreams.

You are correct. Anyone can google Eretz Yisrael for more info.

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

Bajwa, Saudi deputy defence minister discuss security issues
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The Newspaper's Staff Reporter
Updated 19 Aug 2020

Riyadh: Army Chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa is welcomed by Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Defence Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman. — Reuters

ISLAMABAD: Chief of the Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa held talks with Saudi Deputy Minister for Defence Khalid bin Salman bin Abdulaziz on bilateral defence cooperation and regional security, said the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) on Tuesday.
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“Matters of mutual interest including bilateral defence and security cooperation and regional security were discussed,” the Pakistan military’s media wing further said.

According to the Saudi Press Agency, the meeting was held on Monday.

The Saudi statement explained that besides the bilateral cooperation, talks were also held on enhancing cooperation for security and stability in the region. Without elaborating, it said issues of “common concern” were also discussed.

Tweeting after the meeting, Prince Khalid, who is Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s full younger brother, said: “Met today with my brother, H.E. General Qamar Bajwa, Pakistan’s Chief of Army Staff. We discussed bilateral relations, military cooperation, and our common vision for preserving regional security.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295454166349942788

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Gen Bajwa had reached the kingdom for defence talks on Monday and met Chief of General Staff Gen Fayiadh bin Ha’med Al-Rowaily, and Commander of Joint Forces Lt Gen Fahad bin Turki Al Saud. Military ties were discussed during those meetings.

Gen Bajwa is being accompanied by Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Director General Lt Gen Faiz Hameed during the visit, which is taking place amidst strain in bilateral ties caused after Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi complained about the Saudi-dominated Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC) dragging its feet on Pakistani request for a meeting of its Council of Foreign Ministers on Kashmir.

Real rulers of Pakistan humiliated saudia do not need you now they are secured now

 

[Xone]

Real rulers of Pakistan humiliated saudia do not need you now they are secured now

these ups and downs come and go, the world does not stop for you. You have to make use of the time and opportunity as it unfolds to you. the leader should have the vision to foresee it before it actually happens. Here we are punishing our own nation, instead of harbingering some fortunes and goodness for its welfare. these Arabs are apparently smarter than us.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Issue is again the same...why we cant see it. KSA is going to recognize "Illegal State" Pakistan State apparatus cant go forward with Saudia..those who think UAE recognize the "Illegal State" are blind...nothing happens without Saudia tacit approval...

Pakistan Just cant go with Saudis ...that is it...Gen Sb & DG sb got the lesson of life.

and for those who follow KSA like they are "Demigods" would find a place or "chullu bhar pani" to die upon..

 

[PakFactor]

So you reveal your true identity, Indian.



You are correct. Anyone can google Eretz Yisrael for more info.

I believe he's an Ahmadiyya Indian -- his talking points are the same hence why I questioned his Aqidah last night. I pray for the next generation because these snakes talk in a way the weak minded and unlearned would be fooled.

 

[HAIDER]

I think Saudi Arabia should come out the closet ...Because President Trump thank Saudi Arabia for cutting peace deal between UAE and Israel .... @Irfan Baloch

 

[Jinn Baba]

I think Saudi Arabia should come out the closet ...Because President Trump thank Saudi Arabia for cutting peace deal between UAE and Israel .... @Irfan Baloch

Saudis want to see what repercussions UAE faces + wants to give time for it to sink in with the Arabs before it recognises israel itself.

Actually I should say MBS and his cronies and not Saudi. The people of Saudi are probably very much against this.

 

[HAIDER]

Saudis want to see what repercussions UAE faces + wants to give time for it to sink in with the Arabs before it recognises israel itself.

Actually I should say MBS and his cronies and not Saudi. The people of Saudi are probably very much against this.

I always address this issue, in monarchy world, there is always disconnect between people and royals. Plus, if we read the pages of history, Islamic hardcore factions been increased over the time. And all those factions been oppressed through power. As we see Saudi school curriculum been changed and all those verses which are against the future foreign policy of KSA has been removed. (reference: senate hearing committee). KSA has more importance on this issue, because they are holding the holiest cities of muslims.

 

[waz]

So he went there and met the deputy AFTER being invited by them.

Two things here;

1. Another snub, although done in weird manner.
2. Just stop bothering with them now.

 

[PakFactor]

So he went there and met the deputy AFTER being invited by them.

Two things here;

1. Another snub, although done in weird manner.
2. Just stop bothering with them now.

I was able to speak with a source with network in the government --

They say SMQ reacted out on his own (and frustration) and what he said isn't government position and another thing they mentioned, their is no Foreign Policy Strategy at the moment -- Pakistan is trying to run towards America and build friendly relations but the U.S. isn't as reciprocal as they thought it would be, and he mentioned that Pakistani's don't understand that in International Relations theirs no such thing as friendship.

His feeling is that Imran Khan has no control at the moment of what's going on and each minister is acting out on their own -- their is no solid command and control in place.

 

[waz]

I was able to speak with a source with network in the government --

They say SMQ reacted out on his own (and frustration) and what he said isn't government position and another thing they mentioned, their is no Foreign Policy Strategy at the moment -- Pakistan is trying to run towards America and build friendly relations but the U.S. isn't as reciprocal as they thought it would be, and he mentioned that Pakistani's don't understand that in International Relations theirs no such thing as friendship.

His feeling is that Imran Khan has no control at the moment of what's going on and each minister is acting out on their own -- their is no solid command and control in place.

It's confusing. The Saudis have made by their mind up, oh well, time to let go of things, well at least until the next king comes along.
The Americans have no time for foreign policy at this point in time, let alone turning away from Pakistan. It's going to be a major battle in the election, domestic issues are sky high e.g. jobs, racial tension etc.
Pakistan needs to as the old saying goes, keep calm and carry on.

 

[Ivan]

FO hails OIC contributions to Kashmir cause
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Baqir Sajjad Syed |Updated 21 Aug 2020

FO spokesperson Zahid Chaudhri says Islamabad committed to sovereignty and territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia. — Twitter/File

ISLAMABAD: Foreign Office Spokesman Zahid Chaudhri on Thursday reaffirmed Pakistan’s commitment to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and recalled its contributions to the Kashmir cause.
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“Pakistan remains committed to the unity of Muslim Ummah and has always worked towards that end. Pakistan will continue its efforts to keep the Muslim Ummah united,” Mr Chaudhri said in his maiden briefing as the FO spokesman.

It should be recalled that what appeared to be a crisis in Pakistan-Saudi Arabia ties began with Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi’s criticism of the OIC for its dilly-dallying on convening of a Council of Foreign Ministers’ meeting on occupied Kashmir.

Mr Qureshi had threatened to convene a meeting of the Muslim countries even outside the OIC setting, if the 57-member bloc continued with its reluctance on calling the Kashmir meeting.

Says Islamabad committed to sovereignty and territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia
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The outgoing FO spokesperson, Aisha Farooqui, had at the last media briefing on Aug 6 defended Mr Qureshi’s statement on OIC, saying it was a reflection of people’s aspirations and expectations from the OIC to raise the Kashmir issue internationally.

Mr Chaudhri praised OIC’s contributions on the issue of Kashmir, saying it had indeed played “an important role” by establishing a contact group, appointing a special envoy of the secretary general on the dispute, and passing a number of resolutions condemning Indian actions and continuing human rights violations in occupied Kashmir.

The rare bitterness in tone on the OIC’s role seems to have gone away after Army Chief Gen Qamar Bajwa’s recent visit to Saudi Arabia, where he met his military counterpart and the deputy defence minister.

Mr Chaudhri said Gen Bajwa’s trip “testifies to the unchanged fraternal relations and close contact between the two brotherly countries”. He also referred to Prime Minister Imran Khan’s comments stressing the importance of ties.

He said Pakistan valued Saudi Arabia’s important role in the OIC Contact Group on Jammu & Kashmir. “Pakistan has an abiding commitment to defending the sanctity of Harmain Sharifain. Pakistan remains firmly committed to the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia,” he maintained and praised the Saudi leadership.

“The people of Pakistan have special reverence and affection for the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques (Khadim-ul-Harmain Sharifain),” he further said.

On Palestine, the spokesman reiterated there was “no change in Pakistan’s principled position” and repeated Pakistan’s longstanding position on the dispute to dispel the impression created by an earlier vaguely worded statement on the UAE-US-Israel agreement on normalisation of ties.

“We have an abiding commitment to the full realisation of the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, including the right to self-determination. For a just, comprehensive and lasting peace, Pakistan has consistently supported a two-state solution in accordance with the relevant United Nations and OIC resolutions as well as international law, with pre-1967 borders and Al-Quds Al-Sharif as the capital of Palestine,” he added.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Actually, the design of the Israeli flag is based on the traditional Jewish tallit that usually has blue or black stripes on its edges, so the two blue stripes don't represent the Nile and Euphrates. Even if they did represent those rivers, that hardly means Israel's foreign policy is to actually conquer the entire region. India's national anthem mentions Sindh, will you use that for your conspiracy theory that India's foreign policy is to conquer Sindh?

In his Complete Diaries, Vol. II. p. 711, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, says that the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”
Theodore was also one of the folks who designed this flag.Tallit justification was a smokescreen they made for the new world. Expansionist ideologies are never blatantly put.

Lately in 1982 ariel Sharon's advisor yinon rejuvenated this plan with a document later known as yinon plan.


Radical Indians actually have similar plans to expand boundaries to an ancient land way beyond sindh.