CnEVPost: Tesla reportedly to begin large-scale testing of Full Self Driving in China

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla reportedly to begin large-scale testing of FSD in China

Tesla will soon begin large-scale testing of FSD (Full Self-Driving) in China, according to a report by Caixin on April 3.

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Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA), despite being a pioneer among electric vehicle (EV) makers in exploring autonomous driving, has been seen as slow to move in the space in China. Now, it looks like things are about to change.

Tesla is about to begin large-scale testing of FSD (Full Self-Driving) in China, local media outlet Caixin said in an April 3 report.

The story was a feature on BYD and did not mention anything more about Tesla's FSD localization efforts in China.

Notably, this is the second time in a week that similar rumors have surfaced.

Tesla China will soon push out a major update to Autopilot, auto blogger Zheng Xiaokang, who has 532,000 followers on Weibo, said on March 27.

The blogger did not mention any more information, and in the comments section of his Weibo post, there was speculation that the update might be Tesla's vision-only V11 software.

All Tesla vehicles currently come with the free Basic Autopilot (BAP) software. In addition, Tesla offers Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), FSD software as an option.

EAP and FSD cost $6,000 and $15,000 in the US and RMB 32,000 ($4,650) and RMB 64,000 in China, respectively.

Tesla opened the EAP feature option in China on February 5, 2021, adding several features compared to BAP, including automatic assisted lane change, automatic parking, and smart summoning.

Tesla has made the EAP feature available free of charge to Chinese owners on holidays several times over the past two years, although the software has not won much praise.

The optional Tesla FSD capability has always been available, but Chinese consumers who have purchased the package have so far failed to get a significantly better experience than BAP.

In contrast, Tesla's Chinese counterparts are seeing tremendous progress with the assisted driving feature.

On March 31, XPeng (NYSE: XPEV) made its Tesla FSD-like advanced driver assistance aystem (ADAS) available for its flagship G9 and P7i models, though the capability still relies on high-precision maps for now. The feature was previously available on the P5 sedan.

XPeng plans to expand full lane-changing, overtaking and left/right turn functionality to major Chinese cities without high-precision maps in the second half of 2023, while full-scene ADAS is planned for 2024.

On February 20, NIO (NYSE: NIO) began allowing all NT 2.0 platform models to trial NOP+ assisted driving software, which enables a point-to-point assisted driving experience on highways as well as urban expressway scenarios.

Remember this is cameras+AI. No premapping of the roads required.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I see too many insurance claims coming to bankrupt Tesla.

 

[Valar.]

Wouldn't work in Pakistan. lol

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I see too many insurance claims coming to bankrupt Tesla.

I have to agree. People are going to be thinking up the greatest scams ever.

 

[kankan326]

This is a threat to China's national security. Tesla should not be allowed to install its self driving software in China's territory and the data should not be transferred to outside China.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This is a threat to China's national security. Tesla should not be allowed to install its self driving software in China's territory and the data should not be transferred to outside China.

It is.

Suicide mode
Somebody could pack the car with explosives and have it drive to the other side of the country to explode infront of some building.

A-hole mode:
You could have it drive close to some busy sidewalk all day during a rainstorm and it have it splash puddles on everybody. Even comes with cameras so maybe you can livestream!

Troll Mode:
You have it drive to somebody's building at 3am every night and start honking the horn.

Troll Mode2:
Have it drive to known haunted places like cemetaries and haunted houses and beep the horn endlessly to f-with the creepy spirits...serves them right. Car has speakers too so you can play custom vulgarities. like "bring it on spooks this car ain't afraid".

Stalker Mode:
Have it drive around Beverly Hills looking for some celebrity to follow.

Obnoxious mode:
Buy two and have one grab a primo parking spot and then when you show up later it pulls out when you arrive so you grab it.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I have to agree. People are going to be thinking up the greatest scams ever.

This could be an eye opener

https://www.insider.com/in-china-drivers-would-rather-kill-than-injure-2015-9

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Shanghai official hints at support for Tesla's FSD rollout in China

Shanghai will further deepen its cooperation with Tesla to promote the EV maker's businesses including self-driving and robotics in the city, a local official said.

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Shanghai official hints at support for Tesla's FSD rollout in China​

By Phate Zhang/CnEVPost

Shanghai will further deepen its cooperation with Tesla to promote the EV maker's businesses including self-driving and robotics in the city, a local official said.

Tesla's FSD (Full Self-Driving) may be getting closer to being available in China.

Shanghai will further deepen its cooperation with Tesla to promote the electric vehicle (EV) maker's businesses including self-driving and robotics in the city, a local official said.

The city will work with Tesla to build a technology industry cluster with core technology advantages for the global market, Chen Kele, deputy director of intelligent manufacturing promotion division at Shanghai Municipal Commission of Economy and Informatization, said today.


Tesla's factory in Shanghai received a tour by local media today, and Chen mentioned this during a media briefing, according to The Paper.


Chen did not directly mention Tesla's FSD, but it was the first hint of support from a Chinese official for Tesla's FSD software.


Tesla, despite being a pioneer among EV companies in exploring autonomous driving, has been seen as slow to move in the area in China.


The EV maker is about to begin wide-scale testing of FSD in China, local media outlet Caixin said in an April 3 report.


All Tesla vehicles currently come with the free Basic Autopilot (BAP) software. In addition, Tesla also offers Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), FSD software as options.


EAP and FSD cost $6,000 and $15,000 respectively in the US and RMB 32,000 ($4,600) and RMB 64,000 respectively in China.


Tesla has made a positive contribution to the construction of a world-class automotive industry center in Shanghai, supporting the city's steady industrial economic growth, Chen said at today's event.

Tesla produced 727,000 vehicles in 2022, up 49.7 percent year-on-year, with an industrial output value of RMB 183.9 billion, Chen said, adding that this represents 23 percent of Shanghai's auto manufacturing output, driving industrial output growth by 1.3 percentage points.


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Tesla Full Self Driving [FSD] Beta takes its first steps outside of North America [Australia, Germany, and Belgium]

https://electrek.co/2023/05/25/tesla-fsd-beta-first-steps-outside-north-america/ Tesla FSD Beta has officially taken its first steps outside of North America, with the software making its way to cars in Australia, Germany, and Belgium. Tesla owners are still waiting for the long-promised full...

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[StraightEdge]

I am pretty certain I saw multiple car brands already offering self-driving option in China. Why is tesla so slow in offering such features in the biggest car market?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I am pretty certain I saw multiple car brands already offering self-driving option in China. Why is tesla so slow in offering such features in the biggest car market?

Only XPENG currently offers all-street driving in consumer cars and that was released in March in just 3 cities. Other consumer car companies in China (including Tesla) only offer highway self-driving versions.

Xpeng Q1 earnings call: Key takeaways

Xpeng aims to reach 15,000 monthly deliveries in the third quarter and 20,000 monthly deliveries in the fourth quarter, its management said.

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At the end of March, XPeng pushed out City NGP and XNGP features to Max versions of several models in Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Shanghai.

...and that XPENG system uses an off-the-shelf NVIDIA Drive solution

Crossing Continents: XPENG G9 SUV and P7 Sedan Set Course for Scandinavia, the Netherlands

Electric vehicle maker brings its fast-charging, long-range intelligent vehicles powered by the NVIDIA DRIVE platform to key European markets.

blogs.nvidia.com

Tesla widely released its FSD code for city/country/town/highways to all Tesla owners (who paid to enable it) in the US/Canada last year...but it uses a completely different software version than Tesla cars outside of the US/Canada. That version could not be downloaded in other countries.

However a few days ago it was noticed that Tesla was allowing this code for the first time to be downloaded to some cars in Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Belgium, and Poland.

So Tesla seems to be widening its scope of countries where you can use its FSD on every road. CnEVPost is saying some Chinese offical is hinting China will soon be on that list too.

It's time for those who doubted the Tesla AI team to apologize and admit they were wrong

 

[Han Patriot]

Only XPENG currently offers all-street driving in consumer cars and that was released in March in just 3 cities. Other consumer car companies in China (including Tesla) only offer highway self-driving versions.

Xpeng Q1 earnings call: Key takeaways

Xpeng aims to reach 15,000 monthly deliveries in the third quarter and 20,000 monthly deliveries in the fourth quarter, its management said.

cnevpost.com

...and that XPENG system uses an off-the-shelf NVIDIA Drive solution

Crossing Continents: XPENG G9 SUV and P7 Sedan Set Course for Scandinavia, the Netherlands

Electric vehicle maker brings its fast-charging, long-range intelligent vehicles powered by the NVIDIA DRIVE platform to key European markets.

blogs.nvidia.com

Tesla widely released its FSD code for city/country/town/highways to all Tesla owners (who paid to enable it) in the US/Canada last year...but it uses a completely different software version than Tesla cars outside of the US/Canada. That version could not be downloaded in other countries.

However a few days ago it was noticed that Tesla was allowing this code for the first time to be downloaded to some cars in Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Belgium, and Poland.

So Tesla seems to be widening its scope of countries where you can use its FSD on every road. CnEVPost is saying some Chinese offical is hinting China will soon be on that list too.

It's time for those who doubted the Tesla AI team to apologize and admit they were wrong

Dude, you have some serious inferior complex for a White American. China kust remain open and allow competition, it only makes our companies better. Look at BYD, 2 years if Tesla forced them to offer even better products and pricing. As long as you don't allow anti Chinese propaganda, all is open BING is now getting competitive to Google, and they are in China, now they are eating Baidus lunch, i say good whip their asses and adapt, if you can't then you perish. I want more competition, we ate not like US, using the word 'national security' to stifle competition.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Dude, you have some serious inferior complex for a White American. China kust remain open and allow competition, it only makes our companies better. Look at BYD, 2 years if Tesla forced them to offer even better products and pricing. As long as you don't allow anti Chinese propaganda, all is open BING is now getting competitive to Google, and they are in China, now they are eating Baidus lunch, i say good whip their asses and adapt, if you can't then you perish. I want more competition, we ate not like US, using the word 'national security' to stifle competition.

In other words you finally admit after Googling that XPENG is using Nvidia's equipment. The only currently active self-driving consumer car in China is using an off-the-shelf American company solution.

I'm glad you finally have come to that realization.

 

[Han Patriot]

In other words you admit XPENG is using Nvidia's equipment. The only currently active self-driving consumer car in China is using an off-the-shelf American company solution.

I'm glad you finally have come to that realization.

Dude, we have a couple companies doing autonomius driving, i don't even care what they are using, all are competiting with each other, if they use Nvidia, good for them, once they get sanctioned, i will laugh. You will. Be surprised, Chinese companies don't really discriminate much until recently when US went cuckoo. We were always open to using US tech to balance the trade. But a local alternative is always available for just in case situations, might not be the best but hell if sanctions give them a home market monopoly, they will slowly do even better.