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Clashes erupt in Istanbul between Turks and migrants whose lives remain on hold


Turks and migrants whose lives remain on hold
Afghans in the Vefa neighborhood of Istanbul, Turkey, make a living searching for plastic, metal, cardboard or other materials that they can sell. (Oscar Durand / For The Times)
Umar Farooq, Kiran Nazish


Turkish authorities on May 16 detained more than 300 undocumented migrants in Istanbul’s Sultanciftligi neighborhood — mostly from Pakistan and Afghanistan — after Turkish nationals and migrants clashed, resulting in the death of a Turkish man allegedly killed by an Afghan migrant.

It’s the latest outbreak of violence between migrants and locals in Turkey in the wake of simmering tensions. Human rights groups say Turkey has fast become an unsafe country for millions of migrants and refugees seeking to resettle in Europe.

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Since 2014, Turkey has granted temporary special protection to nearly 3 million Syrians fleeing war, but this status is not available to Afghans, who can only apply for refugee status or political asylum in a third country and remain in Turkey while they await a decision.

According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), at the start of 2017, 120,529 Afghans applied for such a status and were awaiting a decision, but human rights organizations maintain that number represents a fraction of a larger flow of migrants. Every month, hundreds of Afghans from Afghanistan and second-generation Afghan refugees from Pakistan, along with Pakistani economic migrants from Pakistan, cross the Turkey-Iran border.

In March, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Veysi Kaynak said around 30,000 of the migrants had been prosecuted in 2016, and as many as 3 million could cross in the future. Turkey has since announced it is working to build a 310-mile-long wall along the Iranian border. Human rights groups have said that while Syrians enjoy some protection in Turkey, migrants coming from Afghanistan and Pakistan live a precarious life, with inadequate housing and medical care, and little legal avenues for redress.

The recent detentions in Istanbul have been just one part of a tense week in Sultanciftligi, a lower-class neighborhood that is home to ethnic Kurds and Turks.

News of stabbings and disappearances have brought thousands of undocumented migrants living there under scrutiny, pushing most into hiding. On a normal afternoon, the neighborhood is teeming with young Afghan and Pakistani men, who spend up to 12 hours a day working in basement garment factories, and living in ramshackle, overcrowded apartments rented out by their employers.

“They are all hiding, or they have left, and if any of them walks around outside now, I think they would be in danger,” said a Turkish owner of a clothing shop who asked not to be identified.


According to Turkish police and Afghan and Pakistani diplomats, on the evening of May 14, a group of migrants catcalled a Turkish woman, and in response hundreds of locals confronted migrants living in the area. A Turkish man, Ramazan Sahin, 24, was stabbed to death by an unidentified Afghan, at which point scores of riot police and several armored cars arrived to disperse the crowds. But the next day, at Sahin’s funeral, crowds of locals and migrants again clashed.

Police then responded by raiding homes and rounding up hundreds of migrants.

Adeel Ahmed, 19, said he hid in his room in a nearby neighborhood with 17 other Pakistanis, where they shared videos and pictures of beatings and stabbings from the night before.

“We are very, very scared. We don’t know who is doing this. Nobody is safe anymore,” Adeel said, looking at one of the many videos, one of which showed a migrant being stabbed in the chest with knife.

Rumors of violence by locals have spread among migrants. One such rumor was that six Pakistanis had been killed in Sultanciftligi. Turkish, Afghan and Pakistani officials denied those allegations.

“These reports are absolutely false,” said Dildar Abro, vice consul at the Pakistani Consulate in Istanbul. “The police cordoned off the area, and when they came, because all these people were all illegal, they started running. Someone said someone was killed there, and this person told someone else two people were killed, and this rumor kept going.”

But Abro said networks of smugglers operating in the region have made life difficult for migrants, many of whom spent their life savings to come to Turkey in hopes of continuing to Europe, only to find themselves stuck. Every day the Pakistani consulate provides documents to 15-20 people who entered Turkey illegally to return home, and over the last two months, Abro has worked with Turkish police to free scores of migrants held for ransom in Istanbul.

In Istanbul’s Vefa district, Abdul Razak, 21, said he’s preparing to return to his home in Lagman, Afghanistan, six months after he scraped up $1,300 to be smuggled into Turkey. Razak, like many migrants who find themselves in dire straits in Istanbul, pulls a cart weighing hundreds of pounds through the city’s streets to collect plastic, glass and cardboard, to sell to Turkish recyclers. But on Friday, as he was making the rounds, he was attacked by five Turkish men, who he says seemed to be angry because of what had happened in Sultanciftligi.

“They stabbed me, in the left arm, and my right leg,” said Razak, surrounded by a dozen fellow migrants who are too scared to venture outside their homes. “A Turkish shopkeeper saw me and brought me into his shop until the attackers left.”

“I came here because I wanted to find a way to go to Europe, but now, I cannot go further, and I don’t feel safe here either," Razak said.

 
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All of those immigrants or so-called refugees need to be sent asap back to their country ! I fear it will end in a bad way for all of them. They even got beaten to death in Konya.

Last weeks sexual harassment perpetrated by 2 Pakistani (Afgan refugees?) and 1 Iraqi immigrants in Izmir ended for them by losing their body parts...

The society is reaching its boiling point...
It's clearly a worrying development.
 
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Clashes erupt in Istanbul between Turks and migrants whose lives remain on hold


Turks and migrants whose lives remain on hold
Afghans in the Vefa neighborhood of Istanbul, Turkey, make a living searching for plastic, metal, cardboard or other materials that they can sell. (Oscar Durand / For The Times)
Umar Farooq, Kiran Nazish


Turkish authorities on May 16 detained more than 300 undocumented migrants in Istanbul’s Sultanciftligi neighborhood — mostly from Pakistan and Afghanistan — after Turkish nationals and migrants clashed, resulting in the death of a Turkish man allegedly killed by an Afghan migrant.

It’s the latest outbreak of violence between migrants and locals in Turkey in the wake of simmering tensions. Human rights groups say Turkey has fast become an unsafe country for millions of migrants and refugees seeking to resettle in Europe.

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Since 2014, Turkey has granted temporary special protection to nearly 3 million Syrians fleeing war, but this status is not available to Afghans, who can only apply for refugee status or political asylum in a third country and remain in Turkey while they await a decision.

According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), at the start of 2017, 120,529 Afghans applied for such a status and were awaiting a decision, but human rights organizations maintain that number represents a fraction of a larger flow of migrants. Every month, hundreds of Afghans from Afghanistan and second-generation Afghan refugees from Pakistan, along with Pakistani economic migrants from Pakistan, cross the Turkey-Iran border.

In March, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Veysi Kaynak said around 30,000 of the migrants had been prosecuted in 2016, and as many as 3 million could cross in the future. Turkey has since announced it is working to build a 310-mile-long wall along the Iranian border. Human rights groups have said that while Syrians enjoy some protection in Turkey, migrants coming from Afghanistan and Pakistan live a precarious life, with inadequate housing and medical care, and little legal avenues for redress.

The recent detentions in Istanbul have been just one part of a tense week in Sultanciftligi, a lower-class neighborhood that is home to ethnic Kurds and Turks.

News of stabbings and disappearances have brought thousands of undocumented migrants living there under scrutiny, pushing most into hiding. On a normal afternoon, the neighborhood is teeming with young Afghan and Pakistani men, who spend up to 12 hours a day working in basement garment factories, and living in ramshackle, overcrowded apartments rented out by their employers.

“They are all hiding, or they have left, and if any of them walks around outside now, I think they would be in danger,” said a Turkish owner of a clothing shop who asked not to be identified.


According to Turkish police and Afghan and Pakistani diplomats, on the evening of May 14, a group of migrants catcalled a Turkish woman, and in response hundreds of locals confronted migrants living in the area. A Turkish man, Ramazan Sahin, 24, was stabbed to death by an unidentified Afghan, at which point scores of riot police and several armored cars arrived to disperse the crowds. But the next day, at Sahin’s funeral, crowds of locals and migrants again clashed.

Police then responded by raiding homes and rounding up hundreds of migrants.

Adeel Ahmed, 19, said he hid in his room in a nearby neighborhood with 17 other Pakistanis, where they shared videos and pictures of beatings and stabbings from the night before.

“We are very, very scared. We don’t know who is doing this. Nobody is safe anymore,” Adeel said, looking at one of the many videos, one of which showed a migrant being stabbed in the chest with knife.

Rumors of violence by locals have spread among migrants. One such rumor was that six Pakistanis had been killed in Sultanciftligi. Turkish, Afghan and Pakistani officials denied those allegations.

“These reports are absolutely false,” said Dildar Abro, vice consul at the Pakistani Consulate in Istanbul. “The police cordoned off the area, and when they came, because all these people were all illegal, they started running. Someone said someone was killed there, and this person told someone else two people were killed, and this rumor kept going.”

But Abro said networks of smugglers operating in the region have made life difficult for migrants, many of whom spent their life savings to come to Turkey in hopes of continuing to Europe, only to find themselves stuck. Every day the Pakistani consulate provides documents to 15-20 people who entered Turkey illegally to return home, and over the last two months, Abro has worked with Turkish police to free scores of migrants held for ransom in Istanbul.

In Istanbul’s Vefa district, Abdul Razak, 21, said he’s preparing to return to his home in Lagman, Afghanistan, six months after he scraped up $1,300 to be smuggled into Turkey. Razak, like many migrants who find themselves in dire straits in Istanbul, pulls a cart weighing hundreds of pounds through the city’s streets to collect plastic, glass and cardboard, to sell to Turkish recyclers. But on Friday, as he was making the rounds, he was attacked by five Turkish men, who he says seemed to be angry because of what had happened in Sultanciftligi.

“They stabbed me, in the left arm, and my right leg,” said Razak, surrounded by a dozen fellow migrants who are too scared to venture outside their homes. “A Turkish shopkeeper saw me and brought me into his shop until the attackers left.”

“I came here because I wanted to find a way to go to Europe, but now, I cannot go further, and I don’t feel safe here either," Razak said.
Sad situation. These are really sorry circumstances.
 
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I don't understand why these Pakistani/Afghans don't just go to China, Russia instead.

They dream big and they have been fed the narrative of Turkey being their foster mother country since childhood. They don't feel any cultural affinity towards China and outright hostility towards Russia since that has been their lifelong narrative.
 
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let them pass to EU..

our idiots are forcing them for nothing to stay in Turkey.. yes EU is paying us but that money are just peanuts.. let them do what they want and enter EU than we wont have any problems with them.. turkey simply cant hold so much refugees in the country..

one or two million is maximum because of our economy.. EU has far better economy and space so send them there
 
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If actual Pakistanis are involved in this then this is really shameful. However I wouldn't be surprised if this "Pakistani" lot are a bunch of Afghans who have managed to acquire Pakistani ID. I am open to correction but Pakistani economic migrants have been using the Turkey route to head to Europe for decades now and I have never heard of them behaving disrespectfully towards Turkey before. Violence and disrespect like this on the other hand is something that Afghan refugees in Pakistan have resorted to in the past. They really don't enjoy a good reputation amongst many Pakistanis although of course all are not bad.

An example of how Afghanis have even managed to go to hajj on Pakistani passports.

https://www.dawn.com/news/232646

The authorities are clamping hard on them in Pakistan which is why so many of them are fleeing westwards.
 
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Is getting to Europe worth all this? I can understand for Afghans, but why Pakistanis or even in some cases Bangladeshis try this route to Europe?
 
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I can't distinguish between Afghan and Pakistani refugees by physical appearance. Are these Afghanis?

http://www.amerikaninsesi.com/a/tur...yor/3468759.html#player-start-time=190.569714
How can you ? Considering we both share ethnicities ?

However there have been reports in the past about Pakistani men falling victim to human smugglers who pay thousands of dollars for traveling to EU (where alleged jobs await them).

Now there has been a scandal where the smugglers or their friends in Turkey kidnap these men for ransoms and torture them (several videos appeared a few months back,showing men being tied with shackles,ropes and being brutally tortured with rods and knives, blooded and bruised) and the captors telling them to ask their families to pay large sums of money!

Another thing is that afghanis in other countries do shyt and than claim to be Pakistanis.


The other day I was talking to my cousin who works for BMW,Germany.

He told me about an incident on New Year's Eve in Berlin.

He was waiting for his friends , a an Australian couple was sitting close by, the drunk afghanis came, first they asked for some stuff from the Australians (they obliged) and than all of them tried to steal their stuff, upon resistance they tried harassing them... than my cousin got involved and it turned into an arguement etc.. my cousin took the Australians aside, (out of the crowd, helped them etc).

Now the gist of all this is, that the Aussies might know that the Pak guy helped them, but the general public which can't really differentiate between "brown people" wouldn't...
 
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If actual Pakistanis are involved in this then this is really shameful. However I wouldn't be surprised if this "Pakistani" lot are a bunch of Afghans who have managed to acquire Pakistani ID. I am open to correction but Pakistani economic migrants have been using the Turkey route to head to Europe for decades now and I have never heard of them behaving disrespectfully towards Turkey before. Violence and disrespect like this on the other hand is something that Afghan refugees in Pakistan have resorted to in the past. They really don't enjoy a good reputation amongst many Pakistanis although of course all are not bad.

An example of how Afghanis have even managed to go to hajj on Pakistani passports.

https://www.dawn.com/news/232646

The authorities are clamping hard on them in Pakistan which is why so many of them are fleeing westwards.

Let's hope CPEC would bring more jobs to Pakistan.
 
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Is getting to Europe worth all this? I can understand for Afghans, but why Pakistanis or even in some cases Bangladeshis try this route to Europe?
Even Indian economic migrants take the route.

Heck you will find indians risking their lives through South America to reach USA.

Why? Economic migrants.
 
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