Christians must have more children to counter growth of Islam in EU: Priest

[Tuahaa]

what is this laugh for?

Because the pope continues to amuse me

 

[greatsequence]

And i have an advice to the muslims in Europe: Try to have less and less children, there is no need to have many children, more children is more responsibilty and it can adversely affect the quality of their upbringing. one or 2 good children is better than 4-5 unworthy kids with low performance in their later life.

This can be true in developing societies but it is not true in the developed world. State takes responsibility of Health and education. So get ready for the party

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

yes, and that is the feel of insecurity(probably?), muslims are not the only people having bigoted among themselves. secondly, Europe is non religiouis and secular continent, religion luckily dont have much role in absolute majority of people's lives and there is NO role for religion in state afairs. it's such a good thing, wish we had the same thing in my country. let this guy say whatever he wants to say, but people are not gona listen to him. everyone is citizen of these countries and they are treated equally regarless of what faith they have.

Good observation!
Most of Europe is non-religious.
And like i said if indeed Europe is Islamized,maybe for a century there might be turmoil Also newer interpretations of Islam will spawn,but eventually it"ll become like Turkey i.e secular.

 

[Indiarox]

What a waste of Bandwidth

 

[Ahmad]

This can be true in developing societies but it is not true in the developed world. State takes responsibility of Health and education. So get ready for the party

Perhaps you dont have kids!!! Easy to say than done. I have got 2 kids and i am already going mad. Yes, i can easily let them go out of the house, terrorize the locals, smoke hashesh, **** and all sort of nasty things while Misses and me sitting at home watching telly and take free money from the gov. But i dont do that, i want my kids to be proper and good human being in the future, i take responsibility, put efforts for this purpose. Free school and health care is not the gaurantee for the child to be a good individual in his/her future, parents upbringing is the main thing for kids future.

 

[Ahmad]

Good observation!
Most of Europe is non-religious.
And like i said if indeed Europe is Islamized,maybe for a century there might be turmoil Also newer interpretations of Islam will spawn,but eventually it"ll become like Turkey i.e secular.

there wont be any islamization in europe. islamophobes want to create fear among the people. the muslims themselves are pro secularism in europe, then what is the fear for.

 

[su-47]

LONDON: Christians in Europe must have more children or else the continent would become Islamised, said a Vatican official who predicted that Islam would "sooner rather than later conquer the majority in Europe".

Italian Father Piero Gheddo said the poor birth rate among Europeans coupled with waves of Muslim immigrants could lead to Europe getting dominated by Islam.

"The challenge must be taken seriously," Daily Telegraph Tuesday quoted Father Gheddo of the Vatican's Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions as saying.

He said: "Certainly from a demographic point of view, as it is clear to everyone that Italians are decreasing by 120,000 or 130,000 persons a year because of abortion and broken families - while among the more than 200,000 legal immigrants a year in Italy, more than half are Muslims and Muslim families, which have a much higher level of growth."

"Newspapers and television programmes never speak of this. However, an answer must be given above all in the religious and cultural fields and in the area of identity."

The official held Christians responsible for failing to live up to their own beliefs that led to the creation of a "religious vacuum" being filled by Islam.

He said Islam would "sooner rather than later conquer the majority in Europe".

"The fact is that, as a people, we are becoming ever more pagan and the religious vacuum is inevitably filled by other proposals and religious forces."

Gheddo went on to say that Christians were also making themselves vulnerable to secularists' attacks.

He stated that when "religious practice diminishes in Christian Europe and indifference spreads, Christianity and the Church are attacked".

"If we consider ourselves a Christian country, we should return to the practice of Christian life, which would also solve the problem of empty cradles."

A few months back, a Czech cardinal had also blamed lapsed Catholics for Europe's Islamisation.

Cardinal Miloslav Vlk had said Muslims were well placed to fill the spiritual void "created as Europeans systematically empty the Christian content of their lives".

He said that in case Christians didn't wake up to the threat they would one day realise that they don't have the strength to make their mark on society.



Read more: Islam will sooner or later dominate Europe: Italian priest - The Times of India Islam will sooner or later dominate Europe: Italian priest - The Times of India

better to ask for more children than preach about violence.

but i concur with Ahmad that some couples should stop reproducing like rabbits and have one or two children who can be given better education and more attention.

 

[Tuahaa]

better to ask for more children than preach about violence.

but i concur with Ahmad that some couples should stop reproducing like rabbits and have one or two children who can be given better education and more attention.

They say the more the merrier. In our villages families are big, while in the west families tend to be small. There isn't a problem with either. Both types of families generally live good lives.

If Europeans worry about Islam 'taking over' Europe perhaps they should strengthen their deen.

 

[Ahmad]

They say the more the merrier. In our villages families are big, while in the west families tend to be small. There isn't a problem with either. Both types of families generally live good lives.

What do mean buddy? it is not possible if both of these things are good. Either it is good or bad. I think large families and many kids is never a good thing.

If Europeans worry about Islam 'taking over' Europe perhaps they should strengthen their deen.

Deen is not important to europeans.

 

[Solomon2]

Vatican trying to exploit Islamophobia in Europe...Honestly i don't see much of change if Europe is Islamized.

It's not the Christians who relish blowing up people and mosques in Pakistan, is it? Perhaps Pakistan needs "Islamophobia" more than Europeans do?

 

[Tuahaa]

What do mean buddy? it is not possible if both of these things are good. Either it is good or bad. I think large families and many kids is never a good thing.

Both my parents come from families with 8 or more kids (i.e. I have lots of uncles and aunts) but they are all educated and successful alhumdullilah. I can list many examples. Kids are not a problem. Just raising them can be too much for some parents but most come from areas where it is the norm so yeah.

Deen is not important to europeans.

Good point. But then again, this pope guy's call for more babies won't really affect them

 

[Tuahaa]

It's not the Christians who relish blowing up people and mosques in Pakistan, is it? Perhaps Pakistan needs "Islamophobia" more than Europeans do?

Nope, it needs Islam, not Islamophobia. I have said many times before that Islam says that killing innocent people is Haraam (unlawful)

Though I daresay Americans could do with a lot less Islamophobia so they don't have to justify killing innocent Muslims

 

[Ahmad]

Both my parents come from families with 8 or more kids (i.e. I have lots of uncles and aunts) but they are all educated and successful alhumdullilah. I can list many examples. Kids are not a problem. Just raising them can be too much for some parents but most come from areas where it is the norm so yeah.

Well, perphas we are living in 2 different worlds!! More kids can affect parents' quality of life, their own(kids) upbringing can be negatively affected. That is good that your uncles/aunts have education, but if their parents had less kids, perhaps they would have had a better quality of education because they would have had a better and suitable enviroment at home. Trust me more kids is problem, both for the household and the state.

 

[RobbieS]

Where monetary incentives have failed to get the Birth rate up, I dont think using religion is going to help.

 

[Tuahaa]

Well, perphas we are living in 2 different worlds!! More kids can affect parents' quality of life, their own(kids) upbringing can be negatively affected. That is good that your uncles/aunts have education, but if their parents had less kids, perhaps they would have had a better quality of education because they would have had a better and suitable enviroment at home. Trust me more kids is problem, both for the household and the state.

As for a parent's quality of life, I think that isn't a matter as we know that parents always sacrifice for their children (or atleast in Islamic world- we tend to have big families). A lot of countries aren't obliged to support families. They do it themselves.

But remember: Families with a lot of children often have an even bigger extended family that will always help them.

My father was the first to graduate in our family and got a respectable job. Some of his money contributed to bringing up all his smaller siblings, though quality of life didn't exactly decrease.