Christchurch New Zealand l Multiple deaths after a terrorist opened fire on Friday prayers

[Whirling_dervesh]

Religion had nothing to do with this attack
he clearly said in his manifesto their fight is against non white invaders who live on European lands
for him there is no difference between brown/black hindus muslims or christians

Except where he repeatedly mentions Islamic invaders???? smh

 

[k s ahmed]

I worry more about been alive than my freedom , as for money it's least of my concern and as for language its not a big deal .

lol .. try oman? you can try leaning turkish to see how you feel. Message me for any help. I have moved two countries and can give you some advice

 

[thesolar65]

Religion had nothing to do with this attack
he clearly said in his manifesto their fight is against non white invaders who live on European lands
for him there is no difference between brown/black hindus muslims or christians

OK, but these things will increase in coming months....May be a masacre in a Temple, in a Mosque, in a Church or in a Synagogue. the motive behind it may be racial or religious. But it will slowly become the norm.

Its not that who has started it, but how it will end? Whenever something will happen like this, you can blame others, others can blame you and somebody quitely planning revenge. That's it.

 

[Vergennes]

@Vergennes won't react to your post. He has no answers.

He can only accuse. Just like the white supremacists accuse all day long.

Read the manifesto of the white terrorist. All he does is accuse and accuse and accuse.

And so what ? What's @Reichsmarschall 's point ?

Those people vomiting their hate is no different to those radical islamists who celebrated terror attacks in Europe and advocate for shariah and a caliphate in Europe.... I could also post the same thing. But there would be no point in posting links where low life trashes (from all sides) are meeting to vomit their disgusting hate.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

And so what ? What's @Reichsmarschall 's point ?

my point is we should not hesitate to call spade a spade? Call him terrorist thats what he is
It does not matter if your media calls him Angelic blonde boy or poor broke white dude whose father died of cancer
He is a TERRORIST for us

what actions will your governments take against those who made a hero out of him and are cheering at death of unarmed civilians?
will they get fired from jobs? will police but their names on terror watch list?

 

[maximuswarrior]

And so what ? What's @Reichsmarschall 's point ?

Those people vomiting their hate is no different to those radical islamists who celebrated terror attacks in Europe and advocate for shariah and a caliphate in Europe.... I could also post the same thing. But there would be no point in posting links where low life trashes (from all sides) are meeting to vomit their disgusting hate.

Advocating Shariah or caliphate in Europe is absolutely no crime. Whether you agree or disagree is up to you. If Western nations want to ban the advocating of Shariah or caliphate in Europe they need to pass a law. Until then this is absolutely no crime.

The vast majority of ordinary Muslims don't identify themselves as radical Islamists. The ordinary Muslims don't celebrate attacks in Europe. This accusation is just about correct as Trump claiming that Muslims celebrated 9/11 attacks.

When Muslims warn of the dangers of blatant hatred in the name of freedom of speech in Western societies you accuse Muslims of being anti-freedom.

Admit the truth. White supremacists are radicals who have abused freedom of speech to further their hateful agenda. The so-called intellectuals who defend freedom speech to offend Muslims and spread hate against Muslims are today complicit. You cannot hide freedom to hate under the garb of freedom of speech anymore.

Read the manifesto of Breivik, this lunatic or any other white supremacist outlet. They all have the same theme in common. HATE.

Today the white supremacists are killing innocent people in broad daylight because you and I are defending freedom of speech which is essentially freedom of hate. The freedom to hate has radicalised the white supremacists and all we can do is watch them wreak havoc in one Western capital after another.

Just keep defending freedom to hate and enjoy its fruits.

OK, but these things will increase in coming months....May be a masacre in a Temple, in a Mosque, in a Church or in a Synagogue. the motive behind it may be racial or religious. But it will slowly become the norm.

Its not that who has started it, but how it will end? Whenever something will happen like this, you can blame others, others can blame you and somebody quitely planning revenge. That's it.

The US and her allies should have thought about radicalisation before invading and occupying sovereign countries. From the failed war in Iraq and Afghanistan to the blatant meddling in Syria and elsewhere. Al Qaeda, ISIS and the Taliban didn't fall from the sky. They were created to serve a purpose.

This is what happens when you legalise Jihad against the Soviets, but cry rivers when it comes to bite you in your neck. This is what happens when you justify arming certain militant militias and groups who are your freedom fighters, but cry foul when others do the same.

Let me give you some bad news. There is never an end to such madness. There is only a beginning.

 

[Muhammed45]

New Zealand Pm meets families of victims, giving them sincere condolences.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Heart of Darnkness kills... kills and kills. It kills child and adult alike.

It doesn't see human in front of it. It sees an object to be destroyed with malice.

Heart of Darkness enslaves and throws dead millions into the sea.

Heart of Darkness manufactures consent to pave the way for killing fields.

Heart of Darkness uses religion, race and ethnicity for its murder.

Heart of Darkness enjoys reckless violence. Those who celebrate its dark acts are equal in partner in this Crime Against Humanity.

It doesn't belong to humanity. Heart of Darkness is Enemy of Humanity!

World is edging towards greatest war in Human History. We must dread it.

May the Innocent victims and their families find Peace.

Heart of Darkness is Enemy of Peace!

 

[maximuswarrior]

There we have it. The mother of evil speaks out.

Trump plays down white supremacy links to New Zealand attacks

(CNN)Once again, President Donald Trump is having a tough time calling out far right-wing white nationalism.

His response to the carnage in New Zealand, where 49 people died in an attack on two mosques, is also raising fresh questions about his attitude toward Islam following a long history of anti-Muslim rhetoric -- and about the extent to which the President has a responsibility to moderate his language given the rise in white supremacy movements across the world.

On Twitter and in remarks in the Oval Office, Trump was clear in condemning the killings. But he did not deliver a message of empathy and support to American Muslims, who may feel scared as security is stepped up at US mosques.

"I spoke with Prime Minister Ardern of New Zealand to express the sorrow of our entire nation following the monstrous terror attacks at two mosques," Trump said in the Oval Office on Friday afternoon after first condemning the attack as "a horrible massacre in the Mosques" on Twitter.

"These sacred places of worship were turned into scenes of evil killing," the President said. "We've all seen what went on. It's a horrible, horrible thing."

But asked whether he saw a worrying rise in white supremacy movements around the world, Trump said he did not, blaming a small group of people "with very, very serious problems." He also told reporters that he had not seen the manifesto linked to by a social media account that's believed to belong to one of the attackers, which mentioned Trump by name and saw him as a symbol of renewed white identity.

While the President did not reach out to Muslims around the world, his daughter offered the kind of language that might have been expected from a more conventional commander in chief.

"We join New Zealand and Muslim communities around the world in condemnation of this evil as we pray for the families of each victim and grieve together," Ivanka Trump tweeted on Friday morning.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders called the Christchurch killings a "vicious attack of hate," though she did not specifically mention that the attack was against Muslims.

Trump's failure to do more to point out that the worshipers who died in Christchurch were Muslim represents a double standard, given that he has been much clearer in ascribing a religious motivation to other killings.
Last year, after an attack on a Jewish temple in Pittsburgh, Trump spoke of an "anti-Semitic" motive in the attack, which itself sparked a debate over whether his inflammatory rhetoric was to blame for a rise in hate crimes.

When 28 Coptic Christians died in suicide bombings in Egypt in May 2017, the President decried the "merciless slaughter of Christians" and warned that the "bloodletting of Christians must end."

As a candidate, Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims" entering the United States, and as President he eventually succeeded in using executive power to ban travel to the US by citizens of seven nations, five of them mainly Muslim.

Trump has often been quick to wade in when a Muslim extremist has been a perpetrator of an attack and Muslims are not the victims, or to use such attacks to further his political arguments.
"Incompetent Hillary, despite the horrible attack in Brussels today, wants borders to be weak and open-and let the Muslims flow in. No way!" Trump, for instance, tweeted in March 2016.

And when he was running for office, he excoriated Democrats as dishonest about the motivation of Muslim extremists who conducted terror attacks.

"These are radical Islamic terrorists, and she won't even mention the word, and nor will President Obama," Trump said at a presidential debate, referring to Hillary Clinton. "Now, to solve a problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is, or at least say the name."

Equivocation on white nationalism

Trump has many times been accused of using rhetoric that emboldens extremists and dehumanizes his targets. He has used vulgar language to criticize NFL stars who took a knee during the National Anthem. In announcing his campaign, he said Mexico was sending "rapists" across the border into the US. On Friday, at the same event in which he bemoaned the attack in New Zealand, he warned of "invasions" of undocumented migrants coming across the southern border.

And Friday was not the first time that Trump has sought to downplay the threat of white nationalism.
The question of whether the President's rhetoric has emboldened white supremacists erupted into a multi-day controversy in 2017, when he said there were some "very fine people on both sides" after white nationalist marchers were met by counterprotests in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Trump's moral leadership also came into question when he initially equivocated after he was endorsed by white supremacist David Duke during the 2016 campaign.

The President's comment Friday that white nationalism is not a growing problem contrasted with the vehemence with which other world leaders reacted, and their clear condemnations of white supremacist rhetoric and ideology.
Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May said there was no place in society for "the vile ideology that drives and incites hatred and fear."

Australia's Prime Minister Scott Morrison condemned a "violent, extremist, right-wing terrorist attack."
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the alleged perpetrator of the attack had "extremist views that have absolutely no place in New Zealand and in fact, have no place in the world."

In a tweet that posted before Trump's comments in the Oval Office, Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden -- a possible White House candidate in 2020 -- appeared to have Trump on his mind.

"Whether it is antisemitism in Pittsburgh, racism in Charlottesville, or the xenophobia and Islamophobia today in Christchurch, violent hate is on the march at home and abroad. We cannot stand by as mosques are turned into murder scenes," Biden tweeted.

"Silence is complicity," he added. "Our children are listening. The time to speak out is now."

Democratic Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas condemned Trump for what he styled as extremist rhetoric.
"There is a cost to that. And the cost is part of what we saw today. There are people out there who are unstable that will be inspired by that and take action," Castro told Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room."

White House director of strategic communications Mercedes Schlapp told reporters Friday that it was "outrageous to even make that connection between this deranged individual that committed this evil crime to the President, who has repeatedly condemned bigotry, racism."

Trump's dismissal of the idea that white nationalism is on the rise contradicted warnings of his own government, and it was a characteristic example of how he ignores statistics that do not suit his political arguments.
In a May 2017 intelligence bulletin obtained by Foreign Policy magazine, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security warned of "lethal violence" from white supremacist extremist groups.

Trump's view also does not take into account the rise of white nationalist groups in politics in Europe, which has seen large marches in some cities.

According to the Anti-Defamation League, 71% of the deaths linked to extremism in the United States between 2008 and 2017 were committed by far-right attackers.

CNN's Ross Levitt contributed to this story.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/16/...ew-zealand-white-supremacy-muslims/index.html

 

[Verve]

The inmates are Pacific Islanders on the whole, they rape and beat little racists like him....

He will be kept safe as the White Terrorism is to grow. A horrible death in jail will deter others but safety in jail will encourage others.

When it's a White terrorist, their media cries "something went wrong, a white man can't do this as he was an innocent boy once' (whereas Muslim kids are evil by default).

What a load of crap and the whites here and elsewhere are not even condemning this type of reporting. Instead they are nodding their heads and thinking 'yeah dude, he was an innocent boy so visiting NK and Pak must have radicalised him'.

Yeah sure, he got educated on all the Zionist extremists (named on his guns) in NK and PK!!!

 

[Avicenna]

He will be kept safe as the White Terrorism is to grow. A horrible death in jail will deter others but safety in jail will encourage others.



When it's a White terrorist, their media cries "something went wrong, a white man can't do this as he was an innocent boy once' (whereas Muslim kids are evil by default).

What a load of crap and the whites here and elsewhere are not even condemning this type of reporting. Instead they are nodding their heads and thinking 'yeah dude, he was an innocent boy so visiting NK and Pak must have radicalised him'.

Yeah sure, he got educated on all the Zionist extremists (named on his guns) in NK and PK!!!

That title on that article is disgusting in its intent.

 

[Falcon29]

Exactly, Whats scary is few seemingly closeted extremists are even covertly advocating retaliatory action in these very pages.. Hate begets hate.. I know emotions are running high but i Hope the Moderators are keeping a close watch

Report any posts declaring such intentions. The only way to respond to this at an action level is to have increased security at mosques and other places of worship. On a political level we need to address Islamophobia and certain spaces on internet which pedal disturbing views.

 

[BHarwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1106897870156955650

 

[Falcon29]

@maximuswarrior

Actually most of anti Islam/Muslim propaganda is by the neocons/right wing who are not white nationalists. And these neocons include numerous races/nationalities. So the neocon establishment especially in the US is mostly responsible for rise of anti-Muslim sentiment. The white nationalist trend is new and they are like offshoot of right wing.

New Zealand and majority of nations in Europe have nothing to do with it. In fact when you look at Reddit or other social media online you see Europeans complain about Americans when it comes to any topic related to Muslims. Europeans are better informed than Americans. Americans are not politically savvy on a general level like Europeans are. So really it's like the US , UK, France, and Israel(via ties in US) which demonize Muslims/Islam in the media. I'm not talking about dislike towards Islam as a religion, that's a normal view to adopt among people. I'm talking about perpetual propaganda against Muslims as a people. You can see it in Fox News in the US for example. A lot of other sites like FrontPagemag(Jewish run) , Brietbart, etc.... And US so called 'thinkers' and talk show hosts like Bill Maher, Dave Rubin, Sam Harris , Bridgette Gabriel, Ben Shapiro and so on.

And that doesn't make Islamic extremism less of a problem, that is a problem but its already being addressed for a long time now and mostly only affect Middle East still. So no need to keep bringing that up , that is being dealt with on a large scale. What isn't being dealt with is the intentional Islam/anti Muslim smearing in the US.

 

[Dubious]

Michael Bradley—AFP

AUSTRALIA-BORN EXTREMIST FLASHES WHITE POWER GESTURE IN FIRST COURT APPEARANCE AFTER MASSACRE

A right-wing extremist flashed a white power gesture as he faced the first of many murder charges in a New Zealand court on Saturday, while a shellshocked community dug graves for 49 mosque-goers he stands accused of slaying.

Australia-born, 28-year-old Brenton Tarrant stood largely impassive in the dock wearing handcuffs and a white prison smock, as the judge read the first of what are expected to be a host of murder charges that could mean he dies in jail.

Flanked by armed police, the former personal fitness trainer gestured an upside-down “okay,” a symbol used by white power groups worldwide. He did not request bail and was taken into custody until his next court appearance, which was scheduled for April 5.

Outside the courtroom, Christchurch residents struggled to deal with the aftermath of what is thought to be the worst act of terror against Muslims in the West.

At an old gravesite, excavators were called in to remove the vast amount of earth needed to bury the dead, although police have not yet been able to release the bodies to anxious families.

At the nearby hospital, doctors worked round the clock to treat 39 people for gunshot wounds and other injuries sustained in the attacks. The wounded included a two-year-old boy and a four-year-old girl, who was in critical condition.

The attack on the Al Noor and Linwood mosques has prompted an outpouring of grief and deep shock in this usually peaceful country, which prides itself on welcoming refugees fleeing violence or persecution.

Throughout the day people laid flowers at a makeshift memorial just beyond the police cordon around the Al Noor mosque, where most of the victims died. Many were accompanied with handwritten letters laden with sadness and disbelief, from residents of what one local driver called the “city of sorrow.”

“I am so sorry that you were not safe here. Our hearts are breaking for your loss,” read one of the notes marked with a string of x-kisses.

When the police tape was lifted late Saturday, bystanders spontaneously joined police in moving the stack of bouquets further toward the mosque.

An imam who was leading prayers at the Linwood mosque at the time of the attack said the Muslim community would not be shaken by the massacre. “We still love this country,” said Ibrahim Abdul Halim, vowing that extremists would “never ever touch our confidence.”

Across New Zealand, Kiwis responded with interfaith solidarity—crowdfunding millions of dollars, donating halal food and even offering to accompany local Muslims now scared to walk the streets.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern arrived in the city and, wearing a black headscarf, met with survivors and victims’ families. Ardern said the victims came from across the Muslim world, with Turkey, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia among the countries rendering consular assistance.

At least one Saudi citizen and two Jordanians were among the dead, while five Pakistani citizens were missing.

Sahra Ahmed, a New Zealander of Somali origin, said she was touched by the P.M.’s gesture. “It means a lot. It is a signal to say—I am with you,” she told AFP.

Police are now trying to piece together answers to the difficult questions of why and how this happened. They also want to know how it was possible for the perpetrator to remain undetected by the intelligence services despite his extremist views.

Ardern said the shooter was “in possession of a gun license” obtained in November 2017, and he started legally purchasing two semi-automatic weapons, reportedly AR-15s, two shotguns and a lever-action gun the following month. Ardern said some of the guns had been modified to make them deadlier. “I can tell you one thing right now—our gun laws will change,” she said.

The suspect documented his radicalization and two years of preparations in a lengthy, meandering and conspiracy filled far-right “manifesto.” He live-streamed footage of himself going room-to-room, victim-to-victim, shooting the wounded from close range as they struggled to crawl away in the main Christchurch mosque.

Thirty-six minutes after the police received the first call, Tarrant was in custody.

Commissioner Mike Bush hailed the “absolute bravery” of both police and members of the public “who put themselves in harm’s way” to apprehend the suspect. “Their intervention may very likely have saved further lives.”

Some of the officers involved in the operation were rural police officers who Ardern said “put New Zealand first.”

Two other people remain in custody, although their link to the attack is not clear. One man, 18-year-old Daniel Burrough, has been charged with incitement.

Revulsion at the attack, and tributes to the victims poured in from around the world, including from Pope Francis and Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II.

U.S. President Donald Trump condemned the “horrible massacre” in which “innocent people have so senselessly died,” but denied that the problem of right-wing extremism was widespread.

Australian police said they had visited Tarrant’s childhood home in the town of Grafton, north of Sydney, and spoken to family members as part of their investigation.

The attack has prompted searching questions about whether right-wing extremism has been treated with enough seriousness by Western governments.

Ali Soufan, a former high-ranking FBI counter-terrorism agent, warned the West was “in the midst of a surge of right-wing terrorism that has been metastasizing in plain sight while generating only a muted response from domestic counter-terrorism authorities.”

Ardern said she “asked our agencies this morning to work swiftly on assessing whether there was any activity on social media or otherwise, that should have triggered a response.” She added these issues would be addressed at a cabinet meeting on Monday.

http://newsweekpakistan.com/defiant-new-zealand-mosque-attack-suspect-charged-with-murder/