Chinese women are more ambitious than Americans

[CardSharp]

I do however start to feel a worrying trend in some of the modern cities like shanghai and chongqin. The people are getting materialistic in a beyond healthy sense. We need to find a goal in life other than making more money.

I think deng's slogan "getting rich is glorious" may still apply in rural areas where standard of living is below national average but we need to invigorate the rich cities. Officials certainly don't need to get more glorious then they already are.

We can't just keep making money and become complacent like some of our opium smoking ancestors, and we can't keep our heads in the sand. There is I think two major problems surfacing in china that is becoming an strong unhealthy undercurrent - Namely improper acquisition of money and improper views on women. I actually supports government ban on internet ****. The damage it causes is worse for people with low education level.

do I sound like an old fart?

Yes you do but we like having you around anyways. My real beef with the rich in China is a little more petty than what you've very valided mentioned. My beef is their obsession with brand, status and west=high class.

As a consequence, they dress hideously in all name brand with no sense of style, spend ostentatiously while there are needy poor all around them, and fail to build any real sense of Chinese cultural prestige (if you can sorta figure out what I mean)

No one respects you until you respect yourself and NO one respects a slavish copier of fashions and trends.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

No one respects you until you respect yourself and NO one respects a slavish copier of fashions and trends.

Good point.

Another thing... "success" is not always measured in monetary terms.

Success is really more about fulfilling your potential and working hard, rather than simply having a lot of money. There are plenty of rich people who have just inherited their money, and have not worked a day in their life.

 

[fallstuff]

I'll be the first to admit that Chinese woman are harder working and more dedicated.They can "eat bitter" much more than us men, just imo.

and yes Mao did the chinese people a great turn when he liberated woman from social and legal constraints, but I have a niggling fear that this is slowly being lost in the modern and materialistic China. It seems more and more than many woman are just content to be pretty and marry rich

"When the working day is done, girls just wanna have fun."

Come on man, a girl is gonna be a girl in the end wheather she is American, Chinese, Indian or Brit. !!

 

[Brotherhood]

Yes you do but we like having you around anyways. My real beef with the rich in China is a little more petty than what you've very valided mentioned. My beef is their obsession with brand, status and west=high class.

As a consequence, they dress hideously in all name brand with no sense of style, spend ostentatiously while there are needy poor all around them, and fail to build any real sense of Chinese cultural prestige (if you can sorta figure out what I mean)

No one respects you until you respect yourself and NO one respects a slavish copier of fashions and trends.

Well said, will it be some kind of typical growing pain for a developing country though?

 

[below_freezing]

wrong just bashing below-freezing who seems to think women are gold diggers..

潜力股 means stocks with POTENTIAL. that is, someone that's poor right now but is ambitious and smart, which means they can climb to the top. Lenovo in 1990, for example, or Google in 2000. of course they can mess up but that doesn't mean the girls would just dump them like trash.

gold diggers don't care about potential, they want the high priced stocks NOW. think something like ExxonMobil or State Grid. and if the stocks fail to perform to expectations they have no problem dumping it.

 

[fallstuff]

Good point.

Another thing... "success" is not always measured in monetary terms.

Success is really more about fulfilling your potential and working hard, rather than simply having a lot of money. There are plenty of rich people who have just inherited their money, and have not worked a day in their life.

I agree wih you, but the "Moneatry terms" usually become the definning factor generally.

 

[siegecrossbow]

There are no shortage of men with loose view on women either. I noticed from observing others that womanising have quite a negative effect on men.

酒色磨损男子气

Being 'good' with women doesn't make you manly, infact it wears your ambition off. Don't you find that men in cities are actually quite sissy, especially the young ones? Compare them to say country boys who actually plow the fields.

I think this has been know for some time in China. Qi Jiguang, for example, only selected peasants for his soldiers and not the slick city blokes since the countrymen were hardworking, loyal, and brave. Even today there are a lot of farmboys in the Chinese military since they could handle the harshness of military life a lot better than a sissy like me lol.

 

[no_name]

It is true that girls assess their potential mates more carefully than guys. It may be harsh but fairy-tale romances and love at first sight seldom works well.

However girls if you have to choose always choose for a guy with a good heart. Not the nicey push over but the modest and confident types. Oh and always say no to badboys, they take you no where but down.

 

[no_name]

I think this has been know for some time in China. Qi Jiguang, for example, only selected peasants for his soldiers and not the slick city blokes since the countrymen were hardworking, loyal, and brave. Even today there are a lot of farmboys in the Chinese military since they could handle the harshness of military life a lot better than a sissy like me lol.

No man you're cool.

By the way I heard some sort of discipline training is required for all highschool students in china. Is that really producing the desired effects? I can always tell young people from china by how they walk - they march in a way with quite distinctive hand motions, lol

 

[siegecrossbow]

It is true that girls assess they potential mates more carefully than guys. It may be harsh but fairy-tale romances and love at first sight seldom works well.

However girls if you have to choose always choose for a guy with a good heart. Not the nicey push over but the modest and confident types. Oh and always say no to badboys, they take you no where but down.

Seems like the jerks are the ones who are picking up the most chicks no matter where you go .

 

[CardSharp]

Well said, will it be some kind of typical growing pain for a developing country though?

It actually could get worse, we can be the next economic superpower and still be regarded as second-class citizens all around the world. This goes back to the old point about Chinese softpower. There is no way others are going adapt our values and culture when we ourself are throwing it by the wayside in pursuit of everything western.

Japan is a good example what China should do to. They held on to their values and pride while westernizing. Hell if they can get nuked by Americans and still look down on them as Gaijin. They get a goldstar in my books.


(although I am by blood and by region obligated to hate all Japanese )

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Seems like the jerks are the ones who are picking up the most chicks no matter where you go .

Not always buddy.

It's all about "confidence" really. The reason why some jerks do well, is not because they are jerks, but because they have confidence.

 

[fallstuff]

潜力股 means stocks with POTENTIAL. that is, someone that's poor right now but is ambitious and smart, which means they can climb to the top. Lenovo in 1990, for example, or Google in 2000. of course they can mess up but that doesn't mean the girls would just dump them like trash.

gold diggers don't care about potential, they want the high priced stocks NOW. think something like ExxonMobil or State Grid. and if the stocks fail to perform to expectations they have no problem dumping it.

From Urban Dictionary

Gold digger: Any woman whose primary interest in a relationship is material benefits. A woman who cares more about a man's bank account than she does about the man. The closest male equivalent is a gigolo or boytoy.
"That golddigging tramp was never in love with him; she was in love with his money."

This woman needs no introduction

This man ( gigolo) needs no introduction either

 

[dbc]

潜力股 means stocks with POTENTIAL. that is, someone that's poor right now but is ambitious and smart, which means they can climb to the top. Lenovo in 1990, for example, or Google in 2000. of course they can mess up but that doesn't mean the girls would just dump them like trash.

gold diggers don't care about potential, they want the high priced stocks NOW. think something like ExxonMobil or State Grid. and if the stocks fail to perform to expectations they have no problem dumping it.

I apologize, in my defense I used google translation

 

[below_freezing]

Yes you do but we like having you around anyways. My real beef with the rich in China is a little more petty than what you've very valided mentioned. My beef is their obsession with brand, status and west=high class.

As a consequence, they dress hideously in all name brand with no sense of style, spend ostentatiously while there are needy poor all around them, and fail to build any real sense of Chinese cultural prestige (if you can sorta figure out what I mean)

No one respects you until you respect yourself and NO one respects a slavish copier of fashions and trends.

i know exactly what you mean. this is not as evident in the inland here, but when i went to shanghai it was much more apparent. on 南京路 there was more english than chinese. that is unacceptable. the "american" clothes (we all know that they're made in china anyways) sell for ridiculous costs... some "regular" brands cost 3000 RMB for a shirt, i got my nike shirt for 79 on a bargain.

another thing, why do people buy name brand pants. no one looks at your pants. i buy 地摊货 for 40-60, it looks and wears just as good as the 10000 RMB ultra luxury pants from some italian designer. this obsession with luxury fashion is stupidity, does anyone truly need 10000 RMB pants?

when i went to my girlfriend's village near 咸宁 we went to a department store in the city to skate and eat... this is a small city near 武汉 with an average income about 1000 per month, nowhere near as developed as even 武汉 not to mention shanghai... i saw 5000 RMB ear rings! and teh store was completely empty, yet they still remained in business!