Chinese withdrew $240 billion from US, Switzerland,

[Imran Khan]

i am surprised china keep 800bn$ even now . it was 5 years ago i thought china will pull all of his bills investments

 

[khansaheeb]

China has been decreasing its holding of US treaury bills gradually each month since last year. China at many years ago hold $1.3 trillion of US treasury bills. It is now $859.3 billion as at January 2023.

February figure has not yet been released but do expect it to go down further.

China's US debt holdings at lowest in over 12 years​

China Daily , March 18, 2023

China's cut in US debt holdings reflects an ongoing trend by the world's second-largest economy to diversify its international portfolio and ensure reserve security as dollar asset safety comes into question, market experts said on Friday.

As the second-biggest foreign holder of US debt, China's holdings in US Treasury securities slid for six consecutive months to $859.4 billion as of the end of January, down from $867.1 billion in December, data from the United States Treasury Department showed on Wednesday.

The reduction brought China's holdings of US government debt to the lowest level in more than 12 years, experts said.

They attributed the continuous decline to the fading attractiveness of dollar assets as radical monetary tightening by the US Federal Reserve has pushed down prices of US government bonds and led to rising financial fragility, as seen in the recent failure of Silicon Valley Bank.

"This is an ongoing reduction of China's US treasury portfolio and part of China's reserve management," said Hong Hao, chief economist at GROW Investment Group.

"I wouldn't be surprised to see this trend continuing, as a reflection of weakening US asset safety and its losing performance since last year," Hong said, adding that China is not the only economy that has reduced US debt holdings.

Total foreign holdings of US Treasury securities stood at $7.4 trillion as of the end of January, down from $7.66 trillion a year earlier. Among the top five US debt holders, Belgium and Luxembourg also trimmed holdings in US Treasury securities in January while Japan and the United Kingdom boosted their holdings, according to the US Treasury Department.

Yang Haiping, a researcher at the Central University of Finance and Economics' Institute of Securities and Futures, said holdings reductions by major US creditors, including China, reflect the international community's faltering trust in the greenback.
"Against the backdrop of mounting US government debt and lingering geopolitical tensions, reducing holdings in US Treasurys may become a necessity for China to ensure foreign exchange reserve safety," Yang said.

While trimming holdings in US debt, China has increased holdings in gold with the country's official reserves of the yellow metal standing at 65.92 million ounces as of the end of February, up from 65.12 million ounces in January, said the People's Bank of China, the country's central bank.

Dong Dengxin, director of Wuhan University of Science and Technology's Finance and Securities Institute, said it will be sensible for China to further cut US debt holdings but boost gold reserves to diversify reserve assets, given that the abuse of the dollar in financial sanctions has impaired the greenback's credibility as a reserve currency.
China's foreign exchange reserves — of which investments in US Treasurys are seen as a key component — edged down 1.61 percent from a month earlier to $3.13 trillion by the end of February, official data showed.

China's efforts to ensure reserve safety came as part of the country's sharpened focus on strengthening its financial safety net to safeguard against rising global financial risks.
With SVB's failure due to liquidity stress serving as a red flag, the PBOC said on Friday it will reduce the reserve requirement ratio for financial institutions by 0.25 percentage point on March 27 to keep liquidity in the banking system reasonably ample and support the real economy.

On Thursday, China unveiled a plan to establish a central financial commission to ensure financial stability and promote further development, which experts said will help strengthen financial regulation coordination and prevent major financial risks.

If China sold all US treasury securities where would they put all that Gold?

 

[rambro]

If China sold all US treasury securities where would they put all that Gold?

London?

 

[khansaheeb]

London?

Karachi would be better!

 

[kankan326]

i am surprised china keep 800bn$ even now . it was 5 years ago i thought china will pull all of his bills investments

China's trade surplus in 2022 is $877.6 billion.

 

[tower9]

Hong Kong as a safe haven

They are moving from Switzerland to Hong Kong and Singapore.

 

[kankan326]

Money exiting Swiss banks are moving into HK, and yes, HK is actually the only place where your money is safe from the US seizure.

Agree. HK is backed by another big country. SG is not safe cause it is still in west sphere

 

[etylo]

i am surprised china keep 800bn$ even now . it was 5 years ago i thought china will pull all of his bills investments

Agree, they should have started selling American junk bills long time ago, they are late that they only started last year. The Central Bank of China is
pro-America and it ought to be reformed

If China sold all US treasury securities where would they put all that Gold?

Buy lots of gold and put in China not New York. No one trust the Yankees anymore, they can seize your savings and assests any time.

 

[Song Hong]

Not many people know SG almost got a financial crisis, since US hike interest rate.

There is a force bailing SG out. I dono who.

 

[lydian fall]

People must exchange their dollar and euro to gold or other currencies before western currencies destroy their countries

 

[Song Hong]

People must exchange their dollar and euro to gold or other currencies before western currencies destroy their countries

Many people very brain death about current situation.

It is very dangerous and a force is bailing out the entire earth.

I give you an example.

US come and tell Singapore to open financial market and asset market. Suddenly US printed by come monies and snap out real wealth driving property price 20x since 1985/

Now prior $1 dollar investment inflow become $20 the day if US decide to pull out. No small country can defend themselves against US. By accepting 1 dollar from US, Singapore need to pay 20 dollar.

 

[Mista]

They are moving from Switzerland to Hong Kong and Singapore.

I doubt the veracity of the report.

 

[tower9]

I doubt the veracity of the report.

Why is that?

I heard the same thing from some Taiwanese news shows.

 

[Song Hong]

that’s why Silicon Valley bank collapsed. It held US bonds too long, longer than should be. Terrible management fault.

I have always tell people becoming a financial center is a very dangerous thing and I always worried about Singapore. Too many people put monies in Singapore and this is high risk.

But if Singpaore start pivoting to China, I will have no worry.

 

[Viet]

The drop is largely due to the devaluation of US Treasuries as interest rate rises, rather than the outright selling of US Treasuries.

China slips away from Treasuries but sticks with dollar bonds

Although China's selling of U.S. Treasury securities over the past year raises multiple geopolitical questions, it's merely switching to other dollar bonds - casting doubt about a more alarming strategic investment shift.

www.reuters.com

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that’s why Silicon Valley bank collapsed. It held US bonds too long, longer than should be. Terrible management fault. Chinese can realize losses or they can wait until maturity expire. I don’t think selling all US debts now and buying chinese debts is a good decision. Better putting money into Singapore assets and investment funds. Then the money invested in rising economy like Vietnam. Building factories. Win win.