Chinese Weapon Exports

[Deino]

@Deino

Already resolved!

 

[LKJ86]

Nigeria Type 052C DDG???

https://twitter.com/x/status/1200506442689765376

 

[LKJ86]

China has none of the top 25 arms manufacturers. China makes toys and rubbish.

Source:https://people.defensenews.com/top-100/

 

[FuturePAF]

Nigeria Type 052C DDG???

https://twitter.com/x/status/1200506442689765376

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Perhaps China could sell those two Type 052C to Nigeria for a good market price, and build up a strong ally in West Africa.

Creating alliances, not just supporting friendly nations maybe crucial going forward for China to maintain competitive access to developing nations and build the OBOR, as Europe and America double down to compete with China in this countries from now on.

Freedom of navigation for commerce may no longer be as free with a world in flux. Hence the need for friendly nations with decent blue water navies.

Also the growing need for alliances in exchange for free Infrastructure projects. A partially Chinese owned Trans-African Railway (Senegal via Nigeria to Djibouti) may win them allies. If this can be linked by Sea to Gwadar it would limit the areas that need to be protected by a navy; a Chinese naval base in Djibouti and a port of call at Gwadar could be a crucial link between Chinese businesses in Africa and the Middle Kingdom without having to ship all the way back to China.

if this railway can build a link onward to the Great Lakes region of Africa and down to South Africa as well as a second line north to Cairo, it will make itself very beneficial and influential in African development. Finally, if successful a link across North Africa to Egypt, and a link from Morroco to Senegal will finally complete the linking of all major population centers. While no one will be forced to use the railways, they will be the cheapest option and a good way to build up long term friendly nations that will see China has a friend and an ally over other countries.

rail can be faster then shipping if done right and cheaper then air freight. The initial costs for China maybe high, but the future economic security and interdependence will be build on these kinds of projects.

Also, China will have to make sure OBOR projects are financially quickly beneficial to host nations, or many democratic governments among allies could change and limit participation in OBOR as Malaysia did on the Rail link to Singapore and the $100 Billion city just west of Singapore

 

[juj06750]

Nigeria Type 052C DDG???

https://twitter.com/x/status/1200506442689765376

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just symbolic ceremony;
nigeria is looking for any warship as it opens its new base
but our destroyer is too costly in exchange of oil trade with nigeria
such deal NOT expected

Perhaps China could sell those two Type 052C to Nigeria for a good market price, and build up a strong ally in West Africa.

Creating alliances, not just supporting friendly nations maybe crucial going forward for China to maintain competitive access to developing nations and build the OBOR, as Europe and America double down to compete with China in this countries from now on.

Freedom of navigation for commerce may no longer be as free with a world in flux. Hence the need for friendly nations with decent blue water navies.

Also the growing need for alliances in exchange for free Infrastructure projects. A partially Chinese owned Trans-African Railway (Senegal via Nigeria to Djibouti) may win them allies. If this can be linked by Sea to Gwadar it would limit the areas that need to be protected by a navy; a Chinese naval base in Djibouti and a port of call at Gwadar could be a crucial link between Chinese businesses in Africa and the Middle Kingdom without having to ship all the way back to China.

if this railway can build a link onward to the Great Lakes region of Africa and down to South Africa as well as a second line north to Cairo, it will make itself very beneficial and influential in African development. Finally, if successful a link across North Africa to Egypt, and a link from Morroco to Senegal will finally complete the linking of all major population centers. While no one will be forced to use the railways, they will be the cheapest option and a good way to build up long term friendly nations that will see China has a friend and an ally over other countries.

rail can be faster then shipping if done right and cheaper then air freight. The initial costs for China maybe high, but the future economic security and interdependence will be build on these kinds of projects.

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Also, China will have to make sure OBOR projects are financially quickly beneficial to host nations, or many democratic governments among allies could change and limit participation in OBOR as Malaysia did on the Rail link to Singapore and the $100 Billion city just west of Singapore

our OBOR projects are mostly targeting trades with pakistan and south east asia (actually NOT africa)
and china knows those countries are very poor with no cash;
so OBOR projects work thru barter trade rather than money;
and most countries of OBOR projects are very active because the project does NOT require them to spend money (otherwise they just stay poor as of no change); they must know only china trades such deal

 

[LKJ86]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1263180683125678082

 

[LKJ86]

VT-4
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Via @北方工业 from Weixin

According to Norinco, maybe the VT-4s have reached Pakistan.

Via @北方工业 from Weixin

 

[FuturePAF]

just symbolic ceremony;
nigeria is looking for any warship as it opens its new base
but our destroyer is too costly in exchange of oil trade with nigeria
such deal NOT expected

our OBOR projects are mostly targeting trades with pakistan and south east asia (actually NOT africa)
and china knows those countries are very poor with no cash;
so OBOR projects work thru barter trade rather than money;
and most countries of OBOR projects are very active because the project does NOT require them to spend money (otherwise they just stay poor as of no change); they must know only china trades such deal

Even if these nations are bartering with China, they still have to pay the workers in local or foreign currency. As long as the trade is a net positive for these countries, they can climb the economic ladder and be able to afford to barter for even more with China down the line. This was my point, economic growth in these small economies will pay off in the long run, especially with the large young population.

 

[juj06750]

Even if these nations are bartering with China, they still have to pay the workers in local or foreign currency. As long as the trade is a net positive for these countries, they can climb the economic ladder and be able to afford to barter for even more with China down the line. This was my point, economic growth in these small economies will pay off in the long run, especially with the large young population.

let see how it works; in OBOR project, china mostly brings both chinese companies and chinese workers;
after it finishs work, it hands over the ownership of the project to foreign government in exchange of barter;
so the foreign government NEVER pay cash while under construction; since then it opens the business; everyone better off and that's why many poor countries like to join

 

[Deino]

Any idea how reliable this site and as such this report is?

https://www.defseca.com/procurement...to-purchase-chinese-fighters-in-game-changer/

 

[vi-va]

Any idea how reliable this site and as such this report is?

https://www.defseca.com/procurement...to-purchase-chinese-fighters-in-game-changer/

India will threaten with water divert project on upper stream of Brahmaputra River if this is true.

 

[BanglarBagh]

Any idea how reliable this site and as such this report is?

https://www.defseca.com/procurement...to-purchase-chinese-fighters-in-game-changer/

Although there are rumors flying around about BAF purchasing J-10CE to replace F-7BG/BGI fleet, the procurement itself may not take place very soon as our F-7s are fairly recent builds. In the case of BAF, nothing can be said for certain unless the deal is penned. As for this particular website, not at all reliable in my opinion, because if their claims were true BAF would already be flying Su-30, MiG-35, EFT, F-16, and F/A-18!

 

[BanglarBagh]

India will threaten with water divert project on upper stream of Brahmaputra River if this is true.

BD certainly does not want and can ill afford to engage in a conflict with India. However, that does not mean they can dictate our military purchases or threaten us. If your concern had any valid basis then BN could not have bought submarines from China, even any defense procurement of Chinese origin platforms would have been blocked. It is apparent that it is not the case as BD imports most of its military equipment from China. So, there is a high chance of this deal happening if both parties are in agreement regardless of what India says!

 

[Daniel808]

BD certainly does not want and can ill afford to engage in a conflict with India. However, that does not mean they can dictate our military purchases or threaten us. If your concern had any valid basis then BN could not have bought submarines from China, even any defense procurement of Chinese origin platforms would have been blocked. It is apparent that it is not the case as BD imports most of its military equipment from China. So, there is a high chance of this deal happening if both parties are in agreement regardless of what India says!

Doesn't mean to insult you, my friend.
But many of foreign people like me assume that Bangladesh is one of indian puppet state (more because of propaganda from indian media, I think)

I'm glad to see that Bangladesh also one of the player in South Asia.

Wish all the best for your country @BanglarBagh

If this J-10CE (4.5th Gen Medium Fighters) deal really happen, it will be a huge boost for your Air Force Combat Capability

 

[vi-va]

BD certainly does not want and can ill afford to engage in a conflict with India. However, that does not mean they can dictate our military purchases or threaten us. If your concern had any valid basis then BN could not have bought submarines from China, even any defense procurement of Chinese origin platforms would have been blocked. It is apparent that it is not the case as BD imports most of its military equipment from China. So, there is a high chance of this deal happening if both parties are in agreement regardless of what India says!

Sub deal is during congress, right?
I think Modi BJP has different agenda and foreign policy, more oppressive. India is working on water divert projects. They can play the card. Jet is more aggressive, sub is more defensive.