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So they trespass first or we bulldoze first? Sikkim boundary is not disputed. Means we entered India and bulldozed their structurs??
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So they trespass first or we bulldoze first? Sikkim boundary is not disputed. Means we entered India and bulldozed their structurs??
So they trespass first or we bulldoze first? Sikkim boundary is not disputed. Means we entered India and bulldozed their structurs??
I don't understand this. Why would China construct something on an "indisputable" part of INDIAN territory? There is also another question. Did Indian troops cross the line between China and India or the line between China and Bhutan? If it was the former, then Beijing's contention towards India is valid. If it was the latter, then it is a tri-junction brawl.Bhutan has refuted Beijing's contention that it (China) was constructing a road at the India-China-Bhutan tri-junction in an “indisputable” part of Indian territory.
I don't understand this. Why would China construct something on an "indisputable" part of INDIAN territory? There is also another question. Did Indian troops cross the line between China and India or the line between China and Bhutan? If it was the former, then Beijing's contention towards India is valid. If it was the latter, then it is a tri-junction brawl.
You are not answering my question. Why quote my post when you are not answering it?
In this July 2006 file picture Chinese Army personnel meet their Indian counterparts at Nathula Pass, located on the northern part of Sikkim. | Photo Credit: Arunangsu Roy Chowdhury
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...kkim-sector/article19159295.ece?homepage=true
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said the Sikkim segment of the China-India border was recognised by both China and India
China has justified the construction of a road in the Sikkim sector, saying the area undoubtedly” is located on its side of the border as per the 1890 Sino-British Treaty.
“According to the treaty, ‘zhe’ is the ancient name of Sikkim,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said in a statement.
“As per this treaty, the area over which the Indian Army has raised objection is undoubtedly located on the Chinese side of the border,” he said on June 27.
The statement came a day after the Chinese military accused the Indian Army of stopping the construction of the road in what it claims to be China’s “sovereign territory” in the Sikkim section of the India-China border.
Mr. Lu said the Sikkim segment of the China-India border was recognised by both China and India.
“Indian leaders, the Indian government-related documents, the Indian side in the Sino-Indian boundary issue Special Representatives meeting confirmed that the two sides signed the treaty in 1890, the ‘Sino-British treaty’ and the China-India boundary of Sikkim to have the direction of a consensus,” he said.
“Compliance with these treaties and documents is an international obligation that not to be shirked by the Indian side,” he added.
A Chinese foreign ministry statement, issued on Monday night, said “the Indian border guards crossed the boundary in the Sikkim section of the China-India border and entered the territory of China and obstructed normal activities of the Chinese frontier forces in the Donglang area recently, and the Chinese side has taken counter-measures.”
Mr. Lu, earlier on Tuesday, said China lodged a diplomatic protest with India accusing Indian troops of “crossing the boundary” in the Sikkim section and demanded their immediate withdrawal.
He also asserted that China has shut the Nathu La pass entry for Indian pilgrims travelling to Kailash Mansarovar because of the border standoff.
Also a hard-hitting article posted on the website of the state-run Global Times tonight on the issue said, “Indian troops’ provocation brings disgrace to themselves” and they should be forced to retreat “by all necessary means.”
“The Indian government made no objection to the Sikkim section of the China-India border. Allegations of intrusions along the western section of the China-India border often emerge, but face-offs in the Sikkim section are rare. The Nathu La pass in Sikkim was reopened in 2006, because there is no border dispute between China and India over this area,” it said.
“It remains unclear whether this flare-up is the fault of low-level Indian troops or a tentative strategic move made by the Indian government,” it said.
“Whatever the motive is, China must stick to its bottom line. It must force the Indian troops to retreat to the Indian side by all means necessary and China’s road construction mustn’t be stopped,” the article said.
As the China-India borderline has not been demarcated completely and the two countries have a different understanding about the Line of Actual Control (LAC), troops from both sides often stray across in some areas, it noted.
“However, almost all frictions are fed to the Indian media by the Indian military which they hype time and again.”
“China avoids making an issue of the border disputes, which has indulged India’s unruly provocations. This time the Indian side needs to be taught the rules,” the article said.
“India cannot afford a showdown with China on border issues. It lags far behind China in terms of national strength and the so-called strategic support for it from the U.S. is superficial,” the article said, adding that China has no desire to confront India.
“Maintaining friendly ties with New Delhi is Beijing’s basic policy. But this must be based on mutual respect. It’s not time for India to display arrogance toward China,” it said.
“Indian leaders, the Indian government-related documents, the Indian side in the Sino-Indian boundary issue Special Representatives meeting confirmed that the two sides signed the treaty in 1890, the ‘Sino-British treaty’ and the China-India boundary of Sikkim to have the direction of a consensus,” he said.
“Compliance with these treaties and documents is an international obligation that not to be shirked by the Indian side,” he added.
“The Indian government made no objection to the Sikkim section of the China-India border. Allegations of intrusions along the western section of the China-India border often emerge, but face-offs in the Sikkim section are rare. The Nathu La pass in Sikkim was reopened in 2006, because there is no border dispute between China and India over this area,” it said.
“It remains unclear whether this flare-up is the fault of low-level Indian troops or a tentative strategic move made by the Indian government,” it said.
“Whatever the motive is, China must stick to its bottom line. It must force the Indian troops to retreat to the Indian side by all means necessary and China’s road construction mustn’t be stopped,” the article said.
As the China-India borderline has not been demarcated completely and the two countries have a different understanding about the Line of Actual Control (LAC), troops from both sides often stray across in some areas, it noted.
“However, almost all frictions are fed to the Indian media by the Indian military which they hype time and again.”
“China avoids making an issue of the border disputes, which has indulged India’s unruly provocations. This time the Indian side needs to be taught the rules,” the article said.
“India cannot afford a showdown with China on border issues. It lags far behind China in terms of national strength and the so-called strategic support for it from the U.S. is superficial,” the article said, adding that China has no desire to confront India.
“Maintaining friendly ties with New Delhi is Beijing’s basic policy. But this must be based on mutual respect. It’s not time for India to display arrogance toward China,” it said.
Well, I hope there is no war, but India is pushing their luck.....their air force readiness is only 50% and dependent on Russian spares. In the event of the skirmish, we will need to annihilate tezpur.You are not answering my question. Why quote my post when you are not answering it?
You are not answering my question. Why quote my post when you are not answering it?
Looks like Chinese is correct. Indian troops did cross Sikkim-China border.I am giving you official statements from Chinese, Bhutanese and Indian Officials, Is it not enough for you ?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...on-thursday/story-7squmVUBSLYxOavYhyEMmI.html
Indian Army chief Gen Bipin Rawat will visit Sikkim on Thursday against the backdrop of a standoff between Indian troops and the Chinese army along the Sino-India border in the sensitive sector which is threatening to further strain bilateral ties.
The army chief will take stock of the operational matters and interact with top commanders in the formation headquarters of the force in the border state.
Gen Rawat’s visit to Sikkim comes amid mounting tension between the two armies along the border in Sikkim following a scuffle between Indian troops and the personnel of China’s People’s Liberation Army in a remote area earlier this month.
The genesis of the latest face-off is understood to have had a link to Donglang, a narrow but strategically important tri-junction of India, China and Bhutan.
Official sources described Gen Rawat’s visit as routine.
During the two-day-long visit, Gen Rawat will travel to a number of other formation headquarters in the Northeast and review various operational matters in the region -- a strategically key region having most of the 3,488-km-long- border with China.
Of the 3,488-km-long India-China border from Jammu and Kashmir to Arunachal Pradesh, a 220-km section falls in Sikkim.
China has accused Indian troops of “crossing the boundary” in the Sikkim section and demanded their immediate withdrawal, while asserting that it has shut down the Nathu La pass entry for Indian pilgrims travelling to Kailash Mansarovar because of the border standoff.
China also said that it has lodged diplomatic protests with India, both in New Delhi and Beijing, alleging that the Indian troops trespassed into Chinese territory in the Sikkim sector.
The Indian Army has not commented on the face-off.
Chinese defence ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang said on Monday that recently China has begun the construction of a road in Donglang region, but was stopped by Indian troops crossing the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
I don't understand this. Why would China construct something on an "indisputable" part of INDIAN territory? There is also another question. Did Indian troops cross the line between China and India or the line between China and Bhutan? If it was the former, then Beijing's contention towards India is valid. If it was the latter, then it is a tri-junction brawl.
I heard the bunker story was a fake one, or probably some old news recycled. What are your official sources on bunker removal during THIS particular stand-off?China has removed an old bunker of the Indian Army located at the tri-junction of India, China and Bhutan in Sikkim by using a bulldozer after the Indian side refused to accede to its request, according to official sources.
The incident that broke out in the first week of June in Doka La general area in Sikkim had led to a face-off between the two forces, triggering tension in the Sikkim section of the India-China border, the sources said today.
The forcible removal of the old bunker by using heavy machinery like a bulldozer came when the Indian side did not agree to a request by the Chinese authorities to dismantle it, the sources said.
China is believed to have not taken kindly to India building many new bunkers and upgrading older ones along the border in Sikkim in the recent past to augment its defences against the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the sources said.
True dat.What, do you mean the same Donald Trump who constantly boasts about his "close friend" Xi Jinping, and who keeps saying that China is doing an "amazing job in the region"?
I guess you missed Trump's pivot to China.
India played the USA card already by signing the LEMOA, and all Trump did was wreck India's IT industry with the H1B1 visa policy.
Chinese only mention Indians when the issue of public defecation is the topic.You literally think that ppl in China talk about india?
Wrong, and also when we talk about starvation.Chinese only mention Indians when the issue of public defecation is the topic.