Chinese submarine in Karachi waters may be spying on Indian warships: Report

[YeBeWarned]

US investment is not in infrastructure and india isn't as politically turbulent. It only takes common sense to understand that they're keeping an eye on Pak.

Seriously man .. its better to hit a brick Wall than discussing anything with Indians .. keep living in Lala Land

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Seriously man .. its better to hit a brick Wall than discussing anything with Indians .. keep living in Lala Land

so china is 'not spying on Pak'? Makes sense.

 

[Ultima Thule]

SLCM's have limited range and payload and are not MIRV capable.

how do know that? are you in the development team of SLCM, and Indian SSBN is not for Pakistan those are China specific, whole Pakistan is within the range of Agni-2 and 3 wait 5 to 6 year for arriving first Chinese SSK then we will see 1500to 2000 km SLCM will be ready that will be enough for India

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

The Naval version of the Qabootar is under going Training at ISI Headquarters , till then the Chinese Navy will help Pakistan spy the Indian waters .

 

[Hassan Guy]

how do know that?

Watch from 51:20
Sea based is assured, Land is not.

and Indian SSBN is not for Pakistan those are China specific, whole Pakistan is within the range of Agni-2 and 3

It called a nuclear triad - they can use land, air and sea for attack. Its not a specific delivery system for a specific country- it all works.

3 wait 5 to 6 year for arriving first Chinese SSK then we will see 1500to 2000 km SLCM will be ready that will be enough for India

1) No that probably isn't enough for India who will be fielding multiple SSBN's by then
2) The submarines from China are unlikely to have VLS for cruise missiles.

IDK why you are so thick to understand. When the US started fielding SSBN's the Soviet navy didn't call it a day with their whisky and juliet class boats - they had to build SSBN's of their own.

 

[Ultima Thule]

1) No that probably isn't enough for India who will be fielding multiple SSBN's by then
2) The submarines from China are unlikely to have VLS for cruise missiles.

1) But tell me why isn't enough for India?, cruise missiles is most accurate and extremely difficult to intercept as compare to BM
2) how do know that?, but just in your wet dreams and wishfull thinking

 

[Hassan Guy]

1) But tell me why isn't enough for india, cruise missiles is most accurate and extremely difficult to intercept as compare to BM
2) how do know that?, but in your wet dreams and wishfull thinking

1) Nope, BM's are MIRV capable - practically no way to defend against that.
2) Most people would agree, along with Bilal Khan from Quwa who said the subs are unlikely to have VLS. AND no active SSK/SSP in service with the PLA navy have VLS for cruise missiles.

 

[Ultima Thule]

1) Nope, BM's are MIRV capable - practically no way to defend against that.

but it has also big IR and radar RCS can be easily be intercepted by ABM whereas CM has a low IR,radar RCS and not to forget terrain hugging capability of CM
OK but CM can also launch from torpedo launch tubes from a submarine

 

[Cool_Soldier]

May be PN is planning to lease or buy such Nuclear sub from China as we need time to develop our own N/Sub.

 

[Ultima Thule]

May be PN is planning to lease or buy such Nuclear sub from China as we need time to develop our own N/Sub.

lease will be a probability but buying NO

 

[Cool_Soldier]

yes very likely chance of leasing one.

 

[Hassan Guy]

but it has also big IR and radar RCS can be easily be intercepted by ABM whereas CM has a low IR,radar RCS and not to forget terrain hugging capability of CM
OK but CM can also launch from torpedo launch tubes from a submarine

We have been building Agosta's and Babur CM's for well over a decade, and still no SSP+SLCM combo.
A dedicated VLS will be needed for that like the Amur-class submarine.

 

[Ultima Thule]

We have been building Agosta's and Babur CM's for well over a decade, and still no SSP+SLCM combo.
A dedicated VLS will be needed for that like the Amur-class submarine.

we don't need dedicated VLS equipped submarines, CM can easily fire from torpedo launch tube of a submarines, Agosta is not that it is basically anti sub and ship submarine, gives PN lots of experience to how to build modern submarines.

 

[Hindustani78]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...-Navy-for-Gwadar-security/article17040366.ece

China has handed over two ships to the Pakistan Navy to safeguard the strategic Gwadar port and trade routes under the $46 billion China—Pakistan Economic Corridor, a move likely to raise alarm in India.

China handed over the two ships to the Pakistan Navy on Saturday for joint security along the sea route of the China—Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), Dawn News reported.

The Gwadar port in Pakistan’s restive Balochistan province has been developed under CPEC linking western China through Pakistan with the Middle East, Africa and Europe.

The ships —— named after two rivers Hingol and Basol near Gwadar —— were received by Commander of the Pakistan Fleet Vice Admiral Arifullah Hussaini.

Recently built in China and equipped with state-of-the-art guns, the ships will be part of Pakistan Navy and also used to protect the sea-lanes in the Arabian Sea.

A ceremony was held in Gwadar where Chinese officials, who reached Gwadar aboard the ships, handed them over to their Pakistani counterparts.

Director General of the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency Rear Admiral Jamil Akhter, Commander West Commodore Mohammad Waris and top naval and civilian officials were present on the occasion.

“The Chinese ships have become part of the Pakistan Navy from today,” Vice Admiral Hussaini said, adding that the navy would become stronger with the induction of the ships.

He termed the induction of the Chinese ships into the Pakistan Navy as a “historic moment” and said the ships would be deployed for the security of the Gwadar port and the sea route of the CPEC.

The Chinese government will provide two more ships to Pakistan Navy which have been named Dasht and Zhob after two districts in Balochistan.

China is extending help and cooperation to Pakistan for security along the CPEC’s land and sea routes. Pakistan has already raised a new division of the army to ensure security along the CPEC route and in and around the Gwadar port.

Security of Gwadar city has been handed over to the army’s new division raised during the tenure of former army chief Gen Raheel Sharif.

In the past, China has shied away from saying that it plans to deploy its naval ships in Gwadar, a move which could raise alarm in the US and India.

China has not only rebuilt the Gwadar port but also has its operational control. It is also building a network of roads and railways to link up its remote western region to Gwadar for easier access to the Arabian Sea.

The revamped Gwadar port became operational in November last year after two cargo ships laden with containers set off for Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, the UAE and EU.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Not spying, on official visit of friendship with Pakistan