Chinese shipbuilding industry's dream of world domination crushed by Korean

[Korean]

China was way behind many countries in shipbuilding just a decade ago and last year became the top shipbuilder in the world

In terms of tonnage, not dollar value. In terms of dollar value, Korean order book was three times bigger than Chinese order book.

Basically what's happening is that 90% of Korean orders are for high value ships(oil rigs, LPG tankers, etc) from European and US shippers, so Korean business is heavily dependent on European and American economy.

In case of China, it is the reverse and the majority of orders are from Chinese shippers for cheap bulk cargo ships; these have very low dollar value per ton, so the size of Chinese shipyard's order book is directly tied to Chinese economy.

 

[rcrmj]

Talking about economy and comparing with South Korea

Too bad china will never be like South Korea.

South Korea's per capita GDP is 5 times greater then china.

and its p/c GDP is like 10 times of india so in this case india should compare to those least developed african countries

 

[beijingwalker]

In terms of tonnage, not dollar value. In terms of dollar value, Korean order book was three times bigger than Chinese order book.

Basically what's happening is that 90% of Korean orders are for high value ships(oil rigs, LPG tankers, etc) from European and US shippers, so Korean business is heavily dependent on European and American economy.

In case of China, it is the reverse and the majority of orders are from Chinese shippers for cheap bulk cargo ships; these have very low dollar value per ton, so the size of Chinese shipyard's order book is directly tied to Chinese economy.

China build their own battle ships,aircraft carriers,submarines,ice breakers ,polar exploration research ships,hospital ships,deep sea submersible....so you see ,they are not all cargo ships ,haha

 

[rcrmj]

In terms of tonnage, not dollar value. In terms of dollar value, Korean order book was three times bigger than Chinese order book.

Basically what's happening is that 90% of Korean orders are for high value ships(oil rigs, LPG tankers, etc) from European and US shippers, so Korean business is heavily dependent on European and American economy.

In case of China, it is the reverse and the majority of orders are from Chinese shippers for cheap bulk cargo ships; these have very low dollar value per ton, so the size of Chinese shipyard's order book is directly tied to Chinese economy.

40 years ago s.k were pesents with no industry, thanks to the rulling american daddy who gave you money, techs, management and protection (sometimes you have to repay with your women) so s.k went on the fast track to build its industry...on other hand China faces embargo since day one so there is no comparison between us (korea a tiny country that their women and military controlled by your U.S daddy)

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Korea and Japan can get access to all Western technologies and assistance in terms of military naval shipbuilding is concerned. All their destroyers are based on the Arleigh Burke while there is a strict technological embargo on China. Even Russia could build licensed French Mistral.

Dont forget chinese technologies are based on russian!!!
During those days chinese had unfettered access to russian technologies !!!
Even these days they get to produce pirated copies of russian aircraft !!!
So u cant say korea had a advantage coz chinese too had that kinda advantage !!!

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China build their own battle ships,aircraft carriers,submarines,ice breakers ,polar exploration research ships,hospital ships,deep sea submersible....so you see ,they are not all cargo ships ,haha

And aircraft carrier was bought from ukraine and u just gave it the engines and finishing touch(which requires good technologies of course!!!!)
Needing to build a carrier from scratch is no mean work !!!
It req specilly designed hulls, special steels etc...

 

[beijingwalker]

Dont forget chinese technologies are based on russian!!!
During those days chinese had unfettered access to russian technologies !!!
Even these days they get to produce pirated copies of russian aircraft !!!
So u cant say korea had a advantage coz chinese too had that kinda advantage !!!

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And aircraft carrier was bought from ukraine and u just gave it the engines and finishing touch(which requires good technologies of course!!!!)
Needing to build a carrier from scratch is no mean work !!!
It req specilly designed hulls, special steels etc...

you dont know that China is building two new air craft carrier now ,do you?

 

[rcrmj]

you dont know that China is building two new air craft carrier now ,do you?

as i always say we cant expect much from ignorant indians``they still think China is at india's level, but reality is a primative society india compared with efficiency towards innovation driven society China

 

[Adnan Faruqi]

headless chickens always draw conclusion on some rather entertaining articles``do a bit research about shipping industry before inforcing the already ruined indian reputation as clueless bunch

Kid read the post of Korean to whom i was referring and don't bring ur silly racist rant, I don't know u know it or not Indians are known for tackling trolls and abusers .

 

[IndoCarib]

you dont know that China is building two new air craft carrier now ,do you?

You dont know that Chinese aircraft carrier is nothing but refitted Ukrainian floating casino which later became Soviet Varyag?

 

[Adnan Faruqi]

and its p/c GDP is like 10 times of india so in this case india should compare to those least developed african countries

I think you are in the age when u need help in changing diapers kid.

Its my fault i have downgraded myself to talk to u.

Enjoy trolling.

 

[IndoCarib]

I think you are in the age when u need help in changing diapers kid.

Its my fault i have downgraded myself to talk to u.

Enjoy trolling.

Dont you see ? he has 2 'r's in his username.

 

[beijingwalker]

You dont know that Chinese aircraft carrier is nothing but refitted Ukrainian floating casino which later became Soviet Varyag?

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更新时间：2011-11-29 11:00

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　　《南德意志报》的文章指出，这一报道并非偶然，因为日本刚刚提出的防卫新准则把中国定为最大威胁。东京政府显然认为有必要通过事实论证这一军事新准则。

　　几个星期以来，有关上海一家海军传统造船厂正在建造航母龙骨的传言不胫而走。据说，2014年之前，名为“北京一号”的航母将完工，2020年计划建成第二艘，这次将是一艘核动力航母。

the first homemade carrier will be commisioned in 2014,named after"Beijing".the second will be completed in2020,it will be a nuclear power super carrier.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

you dont know that China is building two new air craft carrier now ,do you?

They were too bought from russia both are damaged ones , and one has been declared as unfit beyond repair....
they are not building new one from scratch...

 

[rcrmj]

Kid read the post of Korean to whom i was referring and don't bring ur silly racist rant, I don't know u know it or not Indians are known for tackling trolls and abusers .

kid didnt i ask you to do a bit research about shipping industry? stop keep making indians stupid and funny, one article from a flaming korean doesnt mean anything, check shipping industry anual statistics you will find how igornant and stupid you sound here..

for the sake to deepen your already inferior complexity to the chinese you might as well do a bit research about your sorry indian shipping industry`lol

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I think you are in the age when u need help in changing diapers kid.

Its my fault i have downgraded myself to talk to u.

Enjoy trolling.

reality isnt too difficult for uneducated indians?

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Dont you see ? he has 2 'r's in his username.

how may craps you enjoyed today Mr.intocraps?

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They were too bought from russia both are damaged ones , and one has been declared as unfit beyond repair....
they are not building new one from scratch...

lol source? dont tell me its from your bollywood news or you just been sheer stupid?

 

[beijing consensus]

china currently has the 2nd largest ship building industry.

china can build all the largest commerical ships such as oil tankers, bulk carriers, cargo ships, chemical tankers, LNG tankers, car carriers.
and its all in the largest class in tonnage.

china has a MASSIVE industrial base.
china is the 2nd largest industrial nation after the US and soon to overtake the US within the next 5 years.

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You dont know that Chinese aircraft carrier is nothing but refitted Ukrainian floating casino which later became Soviet Varyag?

thats our training carrier.
and its 67,000 tons.
2nd biggest carrier after the US carriers.

plus carrier is a carrier, does the same job.

btw, where did india get its carrier from and how much tonnage does it have?