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Chinese Sailors ‘Shouting Praises of Xi Jinping’ Reminiscent of Hitler

told SiriusXM hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak on Tuesday’s Breitbart News

I think I see the problem here...

The reason I post this article is to illustrate exactly how the right wing fringe in US politics, together with select Defense Hawks and Military Industrial Complex lobbyists view China, the CPC and PLAN.

Pay attention to the prose used here, the format of the discussion as well as the veiled arguments contained within. This is a essentially a paid advertisement/endorsement from the US military industrial complex, targeting on ideological pretenses the continued (and expanded) flow of US tax-payer money towards them.

Ah, well said. Pardon me. Thanks for sharing.

Lets see if anything stands out...

“We have to focus not just on one issue at a time, which I think is the preference of diplomats,” he said. “That’s not how you deal with a country like China. You move forward on all fronts. You’re not playing man-to-man issue-based defense. You’re playing a full-court offense. You move forward in all domains. You challenge them in the South China Sea. You help to build up Taiwan’s ability to defend itself. You strengthen your alliances with South Korea and Japan and other countries in the region. You pressure them on trade. You stop technological theft. You have to do all these things simultaneously if you want to check the possibility of aggression, and that’s what we’re doing.”

The closing statements attack the concept of a escalation-denying diplomatic approach, followed up by a politely worded call for escalation. This entire article reads like nazi propaganda. Ironic

Mosher praised the Trump administration’s personnel, highlighting CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s slated transition to secretary of state and President Donald Trump’s economic adviser, Larry Kudlow. He remarked, “You’ve got a team over there that has no illusions about the danger that China poses to the world.”

Mike Pompeo is a radical war hawk. Even many Americans who are hard-core "Pax Americana" believer thinks he's a blood knight. People like him tend to see everything that doesn't parrot America's stance word for word as a potential threat.

I totally agree with you .But better to tell this guy, He insult me for no reason here.
I hope we can stick to the topic

A tip, I know I'm more junior than you in this forum, but from experience in other ones you simply don't feed the troll. Ignore them and they starve, or end up so pissed they say something ban-worthy.
 
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Hush!
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I hear Breitbart is a lovely place where US right wingers routinely gather and jerk each other off..

Funny.. there are some that say the same thing about Echo chamber circle jerking threads routinely happening here.

I do definitely agree with you about Breitbart though. Nothing but a giant circle jerk Echo chamber for the most part.
 
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Please don't promote such heinous crimes online. Such crimes are punishable offences in civilized democracies. Thanks for your cooperation.


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The reason I post this article is to illustrate exactly how the right wing fringe in US politics, together with select Defense Hawks and Military Industrial Complex lobbyists view China, the CPC and PLAN.

Pay attention to the prose used here, the format of the discussion as well as the veiled arguments contained within. This is a essentially a paid advertisement/endorsement from the US military industrial complex, targeting on ideological pretenses the continued (and expanded) flow of US tax-payer money towards them.

The idea behind free publication is that, they are free, and they are also free to talk about whatever they want.

You are quoting a right wing publication and say this is a paid advertisement for the US MIC, it's like you are quoting Church News (A LDS publication) and condemn the US religious view is too far to the Mormonism, or quoting Stromfront and condemn the whole US racial view is too right winged.

Just do what the everyday American do, if these news outlet is too bothering, you just switch it off, nobody ask you to watch those, nor did Breitbart is in anyway, sort or form a popular publication. They are catering to a certain group of people.
 
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I do definitely agree with you about Breitbart though. Nothing but a giant circle jerk Echo chamber for the most part.

They (And Fox News, Infowars etc) are actually extremely competent at what they do.
The problem is with what they do in the first place (in my honest opinion).

Regarding the article, it is really one of a continued (approximately every month) series of carefully written info-tainment pieces that serve this purpose. Here is another one (pay attention to the rhetoric again).

John Zmirak: China Is ‘Arming Faster than Hitler Was Arming in the Thirties’

You are quoting a right wing publication and say this is a paid advertisement for the US MIC, it's like you are quoting Church News (A LDS publication) and condemn the US religious view is too far to the Mormonism, or quoting Stromfront and condemn the whole US racial view is too right winged.

Re-read my post, you will see that I made sure to contain my comment and not generalize.
Your examples attribute generalization, when there is none present. Read Moshers' biography, and you will understand why (even if you don't know him and his shenanigans for many years, like I do).
 
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They (And Fox News, Infowars etc) are actually extremely competent at what they do.
The problem is with what they do in the first place (in my honest opinion).

Regarding the article, it is really one of a continued (approximately every month) series of carefully written info-tainment pieces that serve this purpose. Here is another one (pay attention to the rhetoric again).

John Zmirak: China Is ‘Arming Faster than Hitler Was Arming in the Thirties’



Re-read my post, you will see that I made sure to contain my comment and not generalize.
Your examples attribute generalization, when there is none present. :cheers:

And read my post again. That is what I am exactly was saying.

You are quoting a right wing publication on how they are mouthpiece of US militarism. They are, that's why they were called "Right Wing". What is the point of rightwing-ism if you don't go chant "I love this country" and wearing a T-shirt saying "I defend my second amendment right"?

It's like what is a point to be a skin head if you don't believe in White Supremacy?
 
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you have to demonstrate your loyalty to to a dictator to remain safe from his wrath. They can easily do any genocide if they are angry.
 
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And read my post again. That is what I am exactly was saying.

You are quoting a right wing publication on how they are mouthpiece of US militarism. They are, that's why they were called "Right Wing". What is the point of rightwing-ism if you don't go chant "I love this country" and wearing a T-shirt saying "I defend my second amendment right"?

It's like what is a point to be a skin head if you don't believe in White Supremacy?

Yeah, I agree, but that is actually extremely different than blaming US Christianity as a whole due to LDS, or condemning all Americans for racism due to Stormfront. I was attacking your generalization in the previous post.

"Monkeys like bananas because monkeys" is a pretty self-evident argument.
 
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Yeah, I agree, but that is actually extremely different than blaming US Christianity as a whole due to LDS, or condemning all Americans for racism due to Stormfront. I was attacking your generalization in the previous post.

"Monkeys like bananas because monkeys" is a pretty self-evident argument.

Oh well, then what you are saying is Right Wing publication is a paid mouth piece of US MIC?

That is sort of a given, right? Again, what is the meaning of right wing if they did not promote Hawkish idea?

If this is what you want to get out of this post, then I am sorry to say your post have no point at all, it's like posting here and say Sun will always rise on the east and set in the west...I mean, what is the point if you are not talking about generalisation? You point being Right Wingism exist in US? Wasn't EVERY COUNTRY have their own right wing group?
 
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The idea behind free publication is that, they are free, and they are also free to talk about whatever they want.

You are quoting a right wing publication and say this is a paid advertisement for the US MIC, it's like you are quoting Church News (A LDS publication) and condemn the US religious view is too far to the Mormonism, or quoting Stromfront and condemn the whole US racial view is too right winged.

Just do what the everyday American do, if these news outlet is too bothering, you just switch it off, nobody ask you to watch those, nor did Breitbart is in anyway, sort or form a popular publication. They are catering to a certain group of people.

And read my post again. That is what I am exactly was saying.

You are quoting a right wing publication on how they are mouthpiece of US militarism. They are, that's why they were called "Right Wing". What is the point of rightwing-ism if you don't go chant "I love this country" and wearing a T-shirt saying "I defend my second amendment right"?

It's like what is a point to be a skin head if you don't believe in White Supremacy?

Just because they are 'free' doesn't mean that they are above criticism. Your stance would legitimise and tacitly support people like Donald Trump because "The Americans elected him".

Stating "Pointing this out and dissecting how it tries to frame and subconsciously nudge the conversation is pointless because that's the way the world works." is nihilistic. Nihilistic people tend to have logical backing, but their apathy prevents them from doing anything because they can't be bothered to give a s**t.

If you don't see a reason to contribute. Don't

No need to spread negativity for the sake of it.
 
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Just because they are 'free' doesn't mean that they are above criticism. Your stance would legitimise and tacitly support people like Donald Trump because "The Americans elected him".

Stating "Pointing this out and dissecting how it tries to frame and subconsciously nudge the conversation is pointless because that's the way the world works." is nihilistic. Nihilistic people tend to have logical backing, but their apathy prevents them from doing anything because they can't be bothered to give a s**t.

If you don't see a reason to contribute. Don't

No need to spread negativity for the sake of it.

First of all, American people did not elect trump, the electoral college system did, if the election happened in anywhere but America, Hilary would have been the president now, not Trump.

Second of all, I never said free media is above criticism, please do not put word in my mouth, I said, free media have the right to promote what they want, and as a balance to the media view, they should be, just because they are not mainstream does not mean they are wrong, or faulted, but whether or not they are to be criticize is another issue altogether.

And I am not Nihilistic like you said, in fact, as a Political Science Graduate, I am very active in governmental ideology, that does not mean I cannot embrace the idea of opposite ideology, I may not agree on what they say, that does not mean I do not accept they are a "Legitimate" cause of outlet. The two are very different. And here, and especially on this post, I am trying to avoid my own political preference and try to be as objective as possible, but if you find this is too nihilistic, well, that's your problem, not mine.
 
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If this is what you want to get out of this post, then I am sorry to say your post have no point at all, it's like posting here and say Sun will always rise on the east and set in the west...I mean, what is the point if you are not talking about generalisation? You point being Right Wingism exist in US? Wasn't EVERY COUNTRY have their own right wing group?

The point is how the apolitical (profit-driven) MIC uses paid lobbyists (via the revolving door syndrome) to create or enforce latent or evident preconceptions. And then using said preconceptions to boost profitability via targeted peer pressure. That is something btw that the vast majority of Breitbart readers doesn't understand, and really wouldn't care if they did anyway.

The important part here though is that most of them also don't care much about US Imperialism, are against the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc, and they want the troops back dealing with immigrants, not waging foreign wars. And the hawks are leading the rabbits to the open field right now.

The fact that this happens, or that this happening is pretty easy to perceive does not mean you don't have to talk about out, or criticize it for what it evidently is though.
I attacked your false equivalence examples in the first post, because I was simply not saying what you were insinuating.

I do value the discussion and input though. Thanks for that. :cheers:
 
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The point is how the apolitical (profit-driven) MIC uses paid lobbyists (via the revolving door syndrome) to create or enforce latent or evident preconceptions. And then using said preconceptions to boost profitability via targeted peer pressure. That is something btw that the vast majority of Breitbart readers doesn't understand, and really wouldn't care if it did anyway.

The important part here though is that most of them also don't care much about US Imperialism, are against the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc, and they want the troops back dealing with immigrants, not waging foreign wars. And the hawks are leading the rabbits to the open field right now.

The fact that this happens, or that this happening is pretty easy to perceive does not mean you don't have to talk about out, or criticize it for what it evidently is though.
I attacked your false equivalence examples in the first post, because I was simply not saying what you were insinuating.

The thing is, if what you say is true, that is no generalisation is involved, then whatever MIC buy in a political view-piece is not going to be susceptible to the this type of apolitical view, because, as you said, you are not saying this is a generalisation of the whole government. So, for every paid view, there will be a paid or unpaid view to balance it out, which make your point a non-starter.

The problem what you said will only happen if the general public fall into the paid Apolitical agenda category, set aside how many people actually read Breitbart is one thing, another thing is you assume what the normal American is.

The question is, weren't this "The majority of American people wanted to use their troop to deal with immigration" in itself, a generalisation? Otherwise how do you know what Majority of American want when there are no national poll on the issue. You either heard of it from some new source (mostly left wing), which mean they generalise this for you, or you generalise the situation yourself.

And bear in mind, People that are against the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria does not mean they are against "Militarism", that only mean they are against that particular war.

As I said, everyone is entitle to their own view, every organisation, be it far right, extreme right, right wing, left wing, extreme left, far left, center right, center left have their own idea, not a single idea I mentioned above are greater or worse than the other. And there are people that belong to aforementioned group. And saying stuff like

"That is something btw that the vast majority of Breitbart readers doesn't understand, and really wouldn't care if it did anyway."

By saying this, you generalise the entire readership of Breitbart.

And hence, all of your view, in this post, is base on generalisation of Breitbart. And if you are talking about you weren't being generalise before, that mean you have no point at all.

You need to make a point and stick to it.

 
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And now you are into semantics again. Let me get back to this, since you are in CRC mode.

This is my point.

The reason I post this article is to illustrate exactly how the right wing fringe in US politics, together with select Defense Hawks and Military Industrial Complex lobbyists view China, the CPC and PLAN.

This is a essentially a paid advertisement/endorsement from the US military industrial complex, targeting on ideological pretenses the continued (and expanded) flow of US tax-payer money towards them.
 
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