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Indians living in border areas neighbouring China are beginning to envy fast-paced development brought by Beijing to the point of regretting being Indian, a senior member of India's ruling Congress party has warned.

Mani Shankar Aiyar, a former senior diplomat and cabinet minister with responsibility for India's volatile north-east region, described the development that China was bringing to its south-west and Tibet as “simply spectacular”.

He said impoverished people in India's north-east were asking themselves: “What is the mistake we have made by being Indians [rather than Chinese]?” He also warned of the consequences of families divided by the colonial-era border “beginning to hear stories about the kind of progress happening on the other [Chinese] side”.

India is highly sensitive to Chinese encroachment on its borders. China and India fought a war in 1962 over disputed border territory, and China has in the past year become more strident about its claims to the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which it considers to be South Tibet.

The friction has manifested itself in disputes over Chinese visas for residents of Arunachal Pradesh and Kashmir, obstacles to multilateral lending programmes and a protest by Beijing over the visit by Manmohan Singh, India's prime minister, to Arunachal Pradesh before a state election.

Mr Singh shared some of his concerns with the US Council on Foreign Relations in November, saying he feared that China had become more “assertive” in the region.

China's aims in south Asia have continued to be a sore point in the new year. S.M. Krishna, India's foreign minister, has expres*sed New Delhi's unhappiness at China's assistance to neighbouring Pakistan and called Beijing-backed projects on the Pakistan side of the line of control in disputed Kashmir “illegal”.
Some senior Indian analysts claim that India has deliberately withheld infrastructure development from its border regions to prevent China from being able to penetrate deeply into India in case of an invasion across the Himalayas. But Mr Aiyar, a close associate of Rajiv Gandhi, the assassinated premier, criticised successive Indian governments of the “complete neglect of infrastructure development” in Arunachal Pradesh, saying that its absence was “much to the disappointment of the people over there”.

Over the past six decades, he said, the north-east had been “transformed from the second richest part of British India to the laggard region it is today”. Indian visitors to Tibet are struck by the modernisation that has taken place in Lhasa, the region's capital, road-building projects and a high-altitude railway link to China's main network, in spite of their reservations at Beijing's erosion of Tibetan culture and Buddhist religious practice.

A member of parliament from India's north-eastern state of Meghalaya, however, said China made itself felt across the border not with its physical infrastructure or military might but by a flood of competitive consumer goods. He said that cheap Chinese goods were freely available, with imported telephone accessories being sold at a 10th of their Indian equivalents.

Financial Times
 
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something related...

"Arunachal students protest China’s ‘hegemonic’ claim

New Delhi, Nov 4 (IANS) A group of students from Arunachal Pradesh protesting China’s “jingoistic claim” over their state tried to hold a demonstration outside the Chinese embassy here Wednesday, but were prevented by the police.
Shouting slogans like “Born in India, (will) Die in India”, activists of the All Arunachal Pradesh Students’ Union (AAPSU), regretted the “lukewarm attitude and diplomatic romancing” of India with China over the issue.

China has voiced its protest over the Arunachal visits of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Tibetan leader the Dalai Lama later this week. Beijing claims the northeastern state is its territory.

“China’s unrealistic and jingoistic claim over Arunachal is a matter of mental agony for the peace loving and patriotic people of the state,” AAPSU president Takam Tatum told reporters at the Press Club of India.

“We express our deep sense of concern and resentment over China’s expansionist designs to expand its sovereignty over our motherland,” Tatum said.

“Guided by its hegemonic and arrogant attitude, China still considers our state a buffer land and a no mans land rich in hydro power, flora and fauna which shall immensely benefit China if they successfully grab this coveted area,” he said.

He alleged that scores of his activists were detained by Delhi Police when they attempted to stage the protest.

“We wanted to send a message to China that people of Arunachal Pradesh consider and believe that the state is an integral part of India. Soldiers from Arunachal Pradesh have sacrificed their lives for the sovereignty of India in the 1962 war against China,” he said.

Read more: Arunachal students protest China’s ‘hegemonic’ claim
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Arunachal students protest China’s ‘hegemonic’ claim


in case you got wrong notions about the patriotic fervor in the will of the AP people.
 
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Indians living in border areas neighbouring China are beginning to envy fast-paced development brought by Beijing to the point of regretting being Indian, a senior member of India's ruling Congress party has warned.

Mani Shankar Aiyar, a former senior diplomat and cabinet minister with responsibility for India's volatile north-east region, described the development that China was bringing to its south-west and Tibet as “simply spectacular”.

He said impoverished people in India's north-east were asking themselves: “What is the mistake we have made by being Indians [rather than Chinese]?” He also warned of the consequences of families divided by the colonial-era border “beginning to hear stories about the kind of progress happening on the other [Chinese] side”.

India is highly sensitive to Chinese encroachment on its borders. China and India fought a war in 1962 over disputed border territory, and China has in the past year become more strident about its claims to the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which it considers to be South Tibet.

The friction has manifested itself in disputes over Chinese visas for residents of Arunachal Pradesh and Kashmir, obstacles to multilateral lending programmes and a protest by Beijing over the visit by Manmohan Singh, India's prime minister, to Arunachal Pradesh before a state election.

Mr Singh shared some of his concerns with the US Council on Foreign Relations in November, saying he feared that China had become more “assertive” in the region.

China's aims in south Asia have continued to be a sore point in the new year. S.M. Krishna, India's foreign minister, has expres*sed New Delhi's unhappiness at China's assistance to neighbouring Pakistan and called Beijing-backed projects on the Pakistan side of the line of control in disputed Kashmir “illegal”.
Some senior Indian analysts claim that India has deliberately withheld infrastructure development from its border regions to prevent China from being able to penetrate deeply into India in case of an invasion across the Himalayas. But Mr Aiyar, a close associate of Rajiv Gandhi, the assassinated premier, criticised successive Indian governments of the “complete neglect of infrastructure development” in Arunachal Pradesh, saying that its absence was “much to the disappointment of the people over there”.

Over the past six decades, he said, the north-east had been “transformed from the second richest part of British India to the laggard region it is today”. Indian visitors to Tibet are struck by the modernisation that has taken place in Lhasa, the region's capital, road-building projects and a high-altitude railway link to China's main network, in spite of their reservations at Beijing's erosion of Tibetan culture and Buddhist religious practice.

A member of parliament from India's north-eastern state of Meghalaya, however, said China made itself felt across the border not with its physical infrastructure or military might but by a flood of competitive consumer goods. He said that cheap Chinese goods were freely available, with imported telephone accessories being sold at a 10th of their Indian equivalents.

Financial Times

please free Tibetans and Uighars....

Unlike AP ppl who fully are Indian and are even ready to eat up ur pla.... the ppl in Tibet and Xinxiang do not like ur repression and they also are ready to eat ur pla given a chance...;)
 
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@great_han:

Welcome here. Have a nice stay.

I am impressed with your style of introduction. :tsk:
 
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Indians living in border areas neighbouring China are beginning to envy fast-paced development brought by Beijing to the point of regretting being Indian, a senior member of India's ruling Congress party has warned.

Mani Shankar Aiyar, a former senior diplomat and cabinet minister with responsibility for India's volatile north-east region, described the development that China was bringing to its south-west and Tibet as “simply spectacular”.

He said impoverished people in India's north-east were asking themselves: “What is the mistake we have made by being Indians [rather than Chinese]?” He also warned of the consequences of families divided by the colonial-era border “beginning to hear stories about the kind of progress happening on the other [Chinese] side”.

India is highly sensitive to Chinese encroachment on its borders. China and India fought a war in 1962 over disputed border territory, and China has in the past year become more strident about its claims to the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which it considers to be South Tibet.

The friction has manifested itself in disputes over Chinese visas for residents of Arunachal Pradesh and Kashmir, obstacles to multilateral lending programmes and a protest by Beijing over the visit by Manmohan Singh, India's prime minister, to Arunachal Pradesh before a state election.

Mr Singh shared some of his concerns with the US Council on Foreign Relations in November, saying he feared that China had become more “assertive” in the region.

China's aims in south Asia have continued to be a sore point in the new year. S.M. Krishna, India's foreign minister, has expres*sed New Delhi's unhappiness at China's assistance to neighbouring Pakistan and called Beijing-backed projects on the Pakistan side of the line of control in disputed Kashmir “illegal”.
Some senior Indian analysts claim that India has deliberately withheld infrastructure development from its border regions to prevent China from being able to penetrate deeply into India in case of an invasion across the Himalayas. But Mr Aiyar, a close associate of Rajiv Gandhi, the assassinated premier, criticised successive Indian governments of the “complete neglect of infrastructure development” in Arunachal Pradesh, saying that its absence was “much to the disappointment of the people over there”.

Over the past six decades, he said, the north-east had been “transformed from the second richest part of British India to the laggard region it is today”. Indian visitors to Tibet are struck by the modernisation that has taken place in Lhasa, the region's capital, road-building projects and a high-altitude railway link to China's main network, in spite of their reservations at Beijing's erosion of Tibetan culture and Buddhist religious practice.

A member of parliament from India's north-eastern state of Meghalaya, however, said China made itself felt across the border not with its physical infrastructure or military might but by a flood of competitive consumer goods. He said that cheap Chinese goods were freely available, with imported telephone accessories being sold at a 10th of their Indian equivalents.

Financial Times
Thank you for providing the source to back up your post.
 
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He said impoverished people in India's north-east were asking themselves: “What is the mistake we have made by being Indians [rather than Chinese]?” He also warned of the consequences of families divided by the colonial-era border “beginning to hear stories about the kind of progress happening on the other [Chinese] side”.

Its a typical Mani Sankar Aiyer statement.
Making controversial statements and licking up to Gandhi family are things he best known for.

I'm sure its his personal opinion rather than impression of any people of North-east.
 
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envy indeed.

m almost jealous of the development and self sufficiency of the chinese.

we need to match their economic prowess. take a few notes from their book if they are willing to share them.
:D
 
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@ek_indian,Planet Warrior, Mak Kam, Inferno,Windjammer.
Thanks .Yes, It's my first post. I hope I will have a nice stay with all rational people here.
 
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As your name suggest "gReat Hen" your are suffering from Han Chauvinism Fake superiority complex.:taz:

This is not Development forum but Defence forum and stuff related to india's defense should be posted here.:bunny:

Here you want to troll and provoke a china is great and china V/s India debate which is held zillions of time.

This is your first post and you have shows your real intentions.:hitwall:


Members please don't fell in his trap.:mod::mod:

Mod plz close the thread before it become a ugly war of words. This is a serious military forum not school debate.

This article is about the disputed boader. Why do you say it is nothing with defence? Yes, I am proud of the glory Han Chinse has made and is making. That does not mean I must be a Han Chauvinist. In fact, I oppose to any kind of racism.:victory:
 
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Where in China? Honestly I :smitten: and envy Shangai :welcome: again
In Zhejiang Province which enjoys the highest GNP per capita in Mainland China, locating not far from Shanghai. I believe Shanghai's today is Mumbai's tomorrow. Zhejiang's today is Maharashtra's tomorrow.
I think Chennai and Bangalore is better in many ways than Mumbai. Chennai is a centre of manufature and Banga is famous for its soft ware.:smitten: Am I right?
 
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In Zhejiang Province which enjoys the highest GNP per capita in Mainland China, locating not far from Shanghai. I believe Shanghai's today is Mumbai's tomorrow. Zhejiang's today is Maharashtra's tomorrow.
I think Chennai and Bangalore is better in many ways than Mumbai. Chennai is a centre of manufature and Banga is famous for its soft ware.:smitten: Am I right?

India is building a new city. To be our financial Hub

Gujarat International Finance Tech-city ( GIFT )





Gateway towers


Diamond tower



First Phase

As of now, proposed GIFT city’s land leveling work is going on. Soon GIFT city will start constructing a temporary housing facility for some 40000+ workers.

Second Phase

The second phase's planned period for construction and commencement - 2010-2013.

Third Phase

The third phase's planned period for construction and commencement - 2013-2017.

GIFT Gujarat,Gujarat International Tec City,Gujarat International Finance Tec-City (GIFT)

All the existing cities cant develop fast enough due to land rights issues.

This city is an artificial solution to bridge the gap between growth and infrastructure growth. whilst Land is acquired and development goes.
ahead in the rest of the cites. By that i am talking about Underground power lines Central cooling systems. Faster Internet lines and better roads :hitwall:

Sky scarpers and the such will still start to pop up this decade in India.
In all major cities. But what they will do with horrid roads.
 
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