Chinese PLA Colonel: Doklam was a humiliating defeat for China, PRC caved in to Indian pressure

[Han Patriot]

China always patrolled that place that was never a problem. The problem was construction of the road.
You guys are free to patrol.

My friend, read carefully, you are the fourth Indian ignoring the word 'station'. Previously China only patrolled, now they are stationed there.

 

[Dungeness]

My friend, read carefully, you are the fourth Indian ignoring the word 'station'. Previously China only patrolled, now they are stationed there.

"Brain no enough use".

 

[Han Patriot]

Of cause, India won!

What agreement are these Indians talking about. The MEA stated China and India agreed to resolve the issue peacefully, that was the only agreement, to resolve things peacefully and the precondition to resolve it peacefully involves Indian withdrawal which they just did. The MOFA statement was direct and clear, we will continue to construct roads and our soldiers continue to patrol and be stationed there. Where is the 'mutual withdrawal'? Not even the MEA statement talks about mutual withdrawal.

What reaction ? Daily threats from global times or the never reaching missiles photo ops ?

Anyways china stopped the road construct and basically is what india wanted.

How does 'we will continue our road construction plans' meant stop construction? Postponed construction maybe, that's the carrot for Modi since he is going to Beijing to kowtow even then it shall be after winter. My bet is when this issue dies down and less media attention on Modi, we will start again. We can't let him lose face, he did as told, and he must be shown as an Indian hero to the domestic audience.

 

[Dungeness]

What agreement are these Indians talking about. The MEA stated China and India agreed to resolve the issue peacefully, that was the only agreement, to resolve things peacefully and the precondition to resolve it peacefully involves Indian withdrawal which they just did. The MOFA statement was direct and clear, we will continue to construct roads and our soldiers continue to patrol and be stationed there. Where is the 'mutual withdrawal'? Not even the MEA statement talks about mutual withdrawal.

That's how India media and/or Indian members spin this even:

Unilateral Indian withdraw----->Mutual Disengagement----->Mutual withdraw---->Chinese withdraw---->Biggest Indian Diplomatic Victory in Decades!

 

[terranMarine]

Since English is India's national language you would expect the Hindus grasp the basic international language. Just how many times do we have to spill it out? Are they that plain stupid? Nobody talks about BOTH sides withdrawal, only Indian troops unilaterally crawling back to where they came crawling from. China has from the very beginning stated very clearly which is Indian troops must leave the area. After tensions rose high did Modi gave the order to withdraw. Hindus tell us why after the PLA kicked you Hindu a*sses did your pathetic troop suddenly withdraw? That's right if they had stayed any longer, the provocations would have resulted into a war eventually just like 1962. Modi saw things are starting to get out of hand as China refused to make concessions. I mean seriously? Was China the one started to crap after giving you guys some black eye? Not even close.

After Indian troops withdrew, China tried to give India some face saving by saying we have reached an agreement and the Indians have returned back to their border. But slumdogs just interpreted as China being defeated so the next day China's Foreign Ministry said the road constructions will resume when weather conditions permits it.
YET once again Hindus like to give their own spin of the story (why am i not surprised) by saying China was trying to save face. FOR GOD'S SAKE, this is coming officially from our government's mouth. Winter is approaching so ofcourse constructing roads would be very stupid under these weather circumstances. It is gonna resume when Spring kicks in as simple as that.

Right now we are stationing our troops in the area and expect mass deployment. I'd like to see if slumdogs have the guts to repeat that foolish mistake. The roads are gonna come and India isn't gonna stop it.

 

[navtrek]

My friend, read carefully, you are the fourth Indian ignoring the word 'station'. Previously China only patrolled, now they are stationed there.

What is the difference, I really don't know in technical terms?

The difference now is that China will ensure that it has enough hardware and troops to prevent Indian troops from interfering once it restart road building again.

I really doubt that China will start building the road again. Every country has its core interests this is India's core interest to not have China on doklam plateau. I am sure our governments will work a on a give and take arrangement and settle this dispute.

Its just not worth it to be really honest.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

What agreement are these Indians talking about. The MEA stated China and India agreed to resolve the issue peacefully, that was the only agreement, to resolve things peacefully and the precondition to resolve it peacefully involves Indian withdrawal which they just did. The MOFA statement was direct and clear, we will continue to construct roads and our soldiers continue to patrol and be stationed there. Where is the 'mutual withdrawal'? Not even the MEA statement talks about mutual withdrawal.


How does 'we will continue our road construction plans' meant stop construction? Postponed construction maybe, that's the carrot for Modi since he is going to Beijing to kowtow even then it shall be after winter. My bet is when this issue dies down and less media attention on Modi, we will start again. We can't let him lose face, he did as told, and he must be shown as an Indian hero to the domestic audience.

We have stopped you when there was no.media coverage. What makes you think we won't intervene again in ' favourable conditions ' ?

 

[Han Patriot]

What is the difference, I really don't know in technical terms?



I really doubt that China will start building the road again. Every country has its core interests this is India's core interest to not have China on doklam plateau. I am sure our governments will work a on a give and take arrangement and settle this dispute.

Its just not worth it to be really honest.

Indian members here were saying China will maintain status quo and 'patrol' as usual, stationing troops involves staying there instead of just passing by. . This essentially meant India handed over China an excuse to militarize Doklam.

Do you want us to redirect 'our core interest' to Azad Kashmir? . You need to understand Chinese mentality, if you had negotiated this peacefully instead of sending in troops, China might have actually taken into account Indian interest, instead you took Chinese good will for granted and sent in troops. Which sovereign super power will negotiate with a gun on his head? That too in an area not disputed with India. Imagine China were to give in, US can just land in SCS and stop us. You want WWIII? Sometimes I don't know how this idiots think, they seriously think they are a supa powa.

 

[Chellam]

Since English is India's national language you would expect the Hindus grasp the basic international language. Just how many times do we have to spill it out? Are they that plain stupid? Nobody talks about BOTH sides withdrawal, only Indian troops unilaterally crawling back to where they came crawling from. China has from the very beginning stated very clearly which is Indian troops must leave the area. After tensions rose high did Modi gave the order to withdraw. Hindus tell us why after the PLA kicked you Hindu a*sses did your pathetic troop suddenly withdraw? That's right if they had stayed any longer, the provocations would have resulted into a war eventually just like 1962. Modi saw things are starting to get out of hand as China refused to make concessions. I mean seriously? Was China the one started to crap after giving you guys some black eye? Not even close.

After Indian troops withdrew, China tried to give India some face saving by saying we have reached an agreement and the Indians have returned back to their border. But slumdogs just interpreted as China being defeated so the next day China's Foreign Ministry said the road constructions will resume when weather conditions permits it.
YET once again Hindus like to give their own spin of the story (why am i not surprised) by saying China was trying to save face. FOR GOD'S SAKE, this is coming officially from our government's mouth. Winter is approaching so ofcourse constructing roads would be very stupid under these weather circumstances. It is gonna resume when Spring kicks in as simple as that.

Right now we are stationing our troops in the area and expect mass deployment. I'd like to see if slumdogs have the guts to repeat that foolish mistake. The roads are gonna come and India isn't gonna stop it.

Answer My Question

1. Before India withdrawal, there is no talk with India at any cost then why there was Diplomatic talk before Indian withdrawal

2. We can say that China is afraid of trade "China Stoped Indian pilgrims via China but not Trade through Border" If China not afraid of Trade then why China agreed to withdraw troops after India implemented Anti dumping tax on Mobile tempered glass

3. there is a 2nd Biggest snub for China if Modi not attended BRICS Meeting Because of Doklam Issue after OBOR is the biggest one which China didn't expect so Chinese are feared of another snub

Can't even hold any one Word from beginning and taking about India,
1. war issue
2. there is no way to talk before withdrawal but there was a diplomatic talk before India withdrawal
3. there is no Confirmation of road construction in Doklam again

Cheers your self with face saving at last India saved you guys with out any big insult

 

[Han Patriot]

We have stopped you when there was no.media coverage. What makes you think we won't intervene again in ' favourable conditions ' ?

Next time, when you want to crossover, please stay, don't run when the fun is about to begin.

 

[pothead]

We need new emojees to reflect the accurate mental status of our resident momos

 

[Jlaw]

Congratulations to India. China way to soft on this incident.
China 0 India 1

 

[Han Patriot]

Answer My Question

1. Before India withdrawal, there is no talk with India at any cost then why there was Diplomatic talk before Indian withdrawal. Read Indian MEA statement, there was no mention of 'talks', only diplomatic 'efforts'. Your diplomatic efforts include reducing troops to 40 soldiers to signify India was willing to withdraw and also sending Doval to 'try' to talk, and we know how it ended right? China still stuck to their official stand, withdraw then talk. Talks/negotiations involve two parties exchanging terms and conditions to resolve an issue, not one party going over to convey their message, we can't stop India from speaking, we can only repeat standard policy, withdraw then talk. China will never negotiate with a gun on his head, this is policy since day one. The only 'agreement' both parties had was to resolve things peacefully and that involves Indian unconditional unilateral withdrawal, and you did precisely that.



2. We can say that China is afraid of trade "China Stoped Indian pilgrims via China but not Trade through Border" If China not afraid of Trade then why China agreed to withdraw troops after India implemented Anti dumping tax on Mobile tempered glass. Indian trade is only 70 billion out of 4 trillion. Use some common sense. . You think China will give up national sovereignty for a mere 50 billion in surplus? That too for a strategic area like Doklam? Remember the incident in Ladakh, a week before Indian withdrawal? China escalated that area to signal something, this was gonna be a two front war, and you got that message alright. Since when did China withdraw btw? .

3. there is a 2nd Biggest snub for China if Modi not attended BRICS Meeting Because of Doklam Issue after OBOR is the biggest one which China didn't expect so Chinese are feared of another snub. You think Modi is a superstar? He can snub all he want, what I see here is India asking for a face saver for Modi to project a hero image to their domestic audience. Fear a snub? The world does not revolve around India bhai. We need to ensure Modi saves face after what he just did, Indian media need to believe he is a hero, no matter what the reality is.

Can't even hold any one Word from beginning and taking about India,
1. war issue : No war because you withdrew unilaterally.
2. there is no way to talk before withdrawal but there was a diplomatic talk before India withdrawal : No talks before withdrawal. Care to tell me what was negotiated and what was the agreement aside from the 'agreement' that we need to resolve this peacefully and that involves you withdrawing? Same stand since day 1 bro.

3. there is no Confirmation of road construction in Doklam again

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-08/29/c_136565670.htm

BEIJING, Aug. 29 (Xinhua) -- Chinese border troops are continuing their patrolling and defending the Dong Lang (Doklam) area, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson said Tuesday.

"We will make an overall assessment of the weather conditions and all related factors, and according to the actual circumstances complete construction plans for the Dong Lang (Doklam) area," spokesperson Hua Chunying told a daily news briefing.

 

[Jlaw]

Since English is India's national language you would expect the Hindus grasp the basic international language. Just how many times do we have to spill it out? Are they that plain stupid? Nobody talks about BOTH sides withdrawal, only Indian troops unilaterally crawling back to where they came crawling from. China has from the very beginning stated very clearly which is Indian troops must leave the area. After tensions rose high did Modi gave the order to withdraw. Hindus tell us why after the PLA kicked you Hindu a*sses did your pathetic troop suddenly withdraw? That's right if they had stayed any longer, the provocations would have resulted into a war eventually just like 1962. Modi saw things are starting to get out of hand as China refused to make concessions. I mean seriously? Was China the one started to crap after giving you guys some black eye? Not even close.

After Indian troops withdrew, China tried to give India some face saving by saying we have reached an agreement and the Indians have returned back to their border. But slumdogs just interpreted as China being defeated so the next day China's Foreign Ministry said the road constructions will resume when weather conditions permits it.
YET once again Hindus like to give their own spin of the story (why am i not surprised) by saying China was trying to save face. FOR GOD'S SAKE, this is coming officially from our government's mouth. Winter is approaching so ofcourse constructing roads would be very stupid under these weather circumstances. It is gonna resume when Spring kicks in as simple as that.

Right now we are stationing our troops in the area and expect mass deployment. I'd like to see if slumdogs have the guts to repeat that foolish mistake. The roads are gonna come and India isn't gonna stop it.

Than Chinese government is to blame for being soft on India. Why does one need to tell India you're building a road in your own territory?

 

[Han Patriot]

Than Chinese government is to blame for being soft on India. Why does one need to tell India you're building a road in your own territory?

Well the Indians are ambgiously implying to the world China will not build the road, we need to tell the world we will build the road. China cannot be blackmailed by 40 unarmed soldiers. .