Chinese PLA Colonel: Doklam was a humiliating defeat for China, PRC caved in to Indian pressure

[Areesh]

BS ; Defeat is when you expect a war to Happen and have prepared for it
It was a betrayal ; Back stabbing

You declared war on them. Even your media accepts that. Cut these lies of back stabbing please.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

You declared war on them. Even your media accepts that. Cut these lies of back stabbing please.

OK ; cut down the cheerleading ; it looks very cheap

 

[Areesh]

OK ; cut down the cheerleading ; it looks very cheap

STFU. You guys do cheer leading against Pakistan for anyone.

And whine when we support our ally against you. Have some shame and don't be a 24/7 cheerleader like other bharatis.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

STFU. You guys do cheer leading against Pakistan for anyone.

And whine when we support our ally against you. Have some shame and don't be a 24/7 cheerleader like other bharatis.

We cheer for OURSELVES ; you cheer for China ; BIG difference

 

[pothead]

We cheer for OURSELVES ; you cheer for China ; BIG difference

What do they have to cheer for anyway?

They had Osama and now China.
One guy was shot a stone throw away from their Army chiefs house and China has been exposed as a grade A coward.

 

[Roybot]

LOL China already said no concession to India about road building and building proceeds as scheduled. How does India's unilateral retreat from Doklam help them stop us?


LOL SCMP is a fake propaganda news media. It is not even Chinese.

SCMP is owned by the Chinese billionaire Jack Ma

 

[Han Patriot]

Please accept that PLA is A USELESS force



Stop LYING ; you have LOST this face off

You will remember Doklam for the Next 20 years

Doklam and Doklam plateau are two different things, China wanted to own Doklam not just the plateau, the road till Doka La essentially already covers the whole Doklam plateau. When we station troops there, we have de-facto control of Doklam plateau. Strategically, it was the plateau that mattered, the last big piece of flat land there facing Siliguri. Use google 3D, the plateau area is only at the top left quarter of Doklam, the rest are essentially river valleys with no strategic use.

So when Indians entered the Doklam plateau area, their main aim was not road obstruction, it was road destruction of the completed roads in Doklam Plateau. Why else do you need to bring in 2 excavsatros, you could have used only kumbaya troops instead.

Map from Indian analyst. Doklam plateau is from Batang La, Merug La, Senche La to Doka La, looks like a diamond, essentially the whitish area crisscrossed by the roads there. We completed roads from Merug La/Senche La to Doka La, essentially grade 40 roads, then interference from Doka La happened when we tried to extend to Gyomochen. Gyomochen is not a plateau but it was the original trijunction as per 1890 agreement.

Map from Chinese MOFA

To me this is a win win situation because the definition of victory differs between China and India. India wanted media victory for Modi's reelection and also to cover up the fck ups by BJP. China wanted strategic victory. Why did I say India got a media victory? Because we shouldn't have even given a road postponement concession since it was 'rightfully' ours. However, in reality, China did not exercise de facto control of Doklam prior to this, India on the other hand had soldiers in Doka La. Due to it's disputed nature, China could only patrol. The status quo is now changed forever whether India admits it, there is now a grade 40 road covering the whole Doklam plateau (not Doklam area) and permanent Chinese troops stationed there. De facto control is now in Chinese hands which is exactly what we wanted.

The original Indian objective was to ensure Doklam plateau (not the whole Doklam area) does not fall into Chinese hands, not by obstructing road construction, they were aiming to destroy the completed roads in the plateau. Strategically speaking, extending the road to Gyomochi is only for de jure control not de facto control. By controlling the whole Doklam plateau (not Doklam area), we already have de facto control over the whole Doklam.

 

[mikkix]

Congratz to Indians for their bravery.
Chinese are pussies.

 

[Assasin Ezio]

And now Chinese troops have been forced to retreat from a plateau they controlled for centuries.

PLA was so badly humiliated and scared that they failed to build a single road closer than 10 km from Indian border after Doklam.

 

[Han Patriot]

And now Chinese troops have been forced to retreat from a plateau they controlled for centuries.

PLA was so badly humiliated and scared that they failed to build a single road closer than 10 km from Indian border after Doklam.

 

[Assasin Ezio]

From Google Earth it is clear that not a single Chinese road less than 10 km from Doklam-Bhutan border.
PLA are such cowards

 

[Han Patriot]

From Google Earth it is clear that not a single Chinese road less than 10 km from Doklam-Bhutan border.
PLA are such cowards

Have you tried Bing? Google maps is showing the whole area as snow covered, you can't see anything.

 

[Assasin Ezio]

Have you tried Bing? Google maps is showing the whole area as snow covered, you can't see anything.

Bing also shows no road less than 10 km from Doklam border.
Indian Army will stop all road 4-5 K ms from border.

 

[Han Patriot]

Bing also shows no road less than 10 km from Doklam border.
Indian Army will stop all road 4-5 K ms from border.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/08/what-china-learned-about-india-at-doklam/

India highlighted an “understanding” between the two sides that led to the “expeditious disengagement of border personnel at the face-off site,” just 60 odd meters from the Indian Army’s outpost on the Bhutanese border at Doka La.

You are so desperate.

 

[Assasin Ezio]

You are so desperate.

nowhere does it mentions that a road was 60 m from Indian post.