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We had built a strong fleet with SSKs.We need more SSNs
Hope our new SSN would be superior than Akula II or 688I
Think about Seawolf and Virginia.
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We had built a strong fleet with SSKs.We need more SSNs
Hope our new SSN would be superior than Akula II or 688I
JNS will join HLD and become China's 2nd SSN builder。
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JNS will join HLD and become China's 2nd SSN builder。
I have heard from a Chinese rear admiral, on TV so....., that we may eventually have 20-25 SSN in service at the same time. Obviously still less than America, but I don't think we will have that much room for them like the current America does, in fact future America may not have the same room to operate as present America too.
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Chinese Navy Escort Task Group visits Cape Town
Written by Dean Wingrin, Wednesday, 18 June 2014
Three vessels comprising the 16th Escort Task Group of the Chinese Navy arrived in the Port of Cape Town on Tuesday morning, the last leg of a visit to eight African countries.
The 16th Escort Task Group (ETG) consists of the modern Type 054A missile frigate FFG-546 Yancheng, the Type 053H3 missile frigate FFG-527 Luoyang and the new Type 903 replenishment ship AOE-889 Taihu.
The Escort Task Group is visiting South Africa at the invitation of the South African Navy (SAN). With the SAN Band playing at the Chinese welcome ceremony complete with two dancing Chinese Dragons, Chinese Ambassador to South Africa, Mr HE Tian Xuejun and Rear-Admiral ‘Rusty’ Higgs, Chief of Naval Staff (SAN) welcomed the Commanding Officer of the Escort Task Group, Senior Captain Li Pengcheng (Deputy Chief of Staff of the North Sea Fleet of PLA Navy).
The 16th ETG set sail on November 30, 2013, from Qingdao and arrived in the Gulf of Aden on December 22 on a mission to protect and escort merchant ships in pirate-infested waters of the Gulf of Aden and the waters off Somalia. The Chinese PLA Navy has assigned 17 ETGs to perform these escort duties since December 2008, making an active contribution to the security of personnel and ships from China and abroad.
During the mission, FFG Yancheng went to the Mediterranean Sea on December 31 and successfully completed seven rounds of escort for vessels removing chemical weapons from Syria. On March 16 2014, FFG Yancheng returned to the Gulf of Aden and joined forces with FFG Luoyang and AOE Taihu to continue and complete the escort mission.
During the mission, the task group exchanged and collaborated with warships from, inter alia, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Denmark, Norway and Spain. The ETG also conducted a joint exercise with Russian warship in the Mediterranean Sea and carried out a joint counter piracy exercise with EU Counter Piracy Task Force 465 (CTF 465) for the first time in the Gulf of Aden.
After completing the escort mission, the task group departed the Gulf of Aden and began its counter-clockwise visit to Africa. The schedule included visits to Tunisia, Senegal, Cote d'Ivoire, Nigeria, Cameroon, Angola, Namibia and, finally, South Africa.
Although warships of the Chinese Navy have been to South Africa before, this was the first time that they had visited the seven other nations. The last occasion was in April 2011, when the 7th Escorting Flotilla paid a goodwill visit to Durban.
Whilst the ETG will not perform joint exercises with the SAN, there is a programme of cultural exchanges, with senior offices on both sides undertaking tours of each other’s ships and facilities.
Ambassador Tian Xuejun noted that South Africa is an important force, both in Africa and on the international stage, and that it is a country very friendly with China.
“China and South Africa have enjoyed very close exchanges and cooperation with South Africa in all areas including military exchanges,” Tian Xuejun said.
“The Chinese naval ETG's visit to South Africa once again demonstrates the high-level political mutual trust between the two countries and vividly reflects the ever-growing friendly relationship and cooperation between our countries and militaries, as well as the ever-deepening friendship between our peoples.”
Besides the three vessels, the 16th Escort Task Group includes two Harbin Z-9 "Haitun" maritime helicopters and 50 special forces members. There are over 660 crew in the task group.
FFG Yancheng, commissioned in June 2012, acts as the command ship. The 135 metre long, 4 100 ton vessel is equipped with a 76 mm gun, HQ-16 anti-air missiles, YJ-83J anti-surface missiles and one Z-9 helicopter.
FFG Luoyang was commissioned in September 2005, and is equipped with a double-barrelled 100 mm gun, HHQ-7 anti-air missiles, YJ-83 anti-surface missiles and one Z-9 helicopter. The 179 metre long CNS Taihu was commissioned in May 2013.
The Escort Task Group will depart Cape Town on the afternoon of Friday June 20 for the return journey to China.
Chinese Navy Escort Task Group visits Cape Town | defenceWeb
Written by Dean Wingrin, Wednesday, 18 June 2014
Three vessels comprising the 16th Escort Task Group of the Chinese Navy arrived in the Port of Cape Town on Tuesday morning, the last leg of a visit to eight African countries.
The 16th Escort Task Group (ETG) consists of the modern Type 054A missile frigate FFG-546 Yancheng, the Type 053H3 missile frigate FFG-527 Luoyang and the new Type 903 replenishment ship AOE-889 Taihu.
The Escort Task Group is visiting South Africa at the invitation of the South African Navy (SAN). With the SAN Band playing at the Chinese welcome ceremony complete with two dancing Chinese Dragons, Chinese Ambassador to South Africa, Mr HE Tian Xuejun and Rear-Admiral ‘Rusty’ Higgs, Chief of Naval Staff (SAN) welcomed the Commanding Officer of the Escort Task Group, Senior Captain Li Pengcheng (Deputy Chief of Staff of the North Sea Fleet of PLA Navy).
The 16th ETG set sail on November 30, 2013, from Qingdao and arrived in the Gulf of Aden on December 22 on a mission to protect and escort merchant ships in pirate-infested waters of the Gulf of Aden and the waters off Somalia. The Chinese PLA Navy has assigned 17 ETGs to perform these escort duties since December 2008, making an active contribution to the security of personnel and ships from China and abroad.
During the mission, FFG Yancheng went to the Mediterranean Sea on December 31 and successfully completed seven rounds of escort for vessels removing chemical weapons from Syria. On March 16 2014, FFG Yancheng returned to the Gulf of Aden and joined forces with FFG Luoyang and AOE Taihu to continue and complete the escort mission.
During the mission, the task group exchanged and collaborated with warships from, inter alia, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Denmark, Norway and Spain. The ETG also conducted a joint exercise with Russian warship in the Mediterranean Sea and carried out a joint counter piracy exercise with EU Counter Piracy Task Force 465 (CTF 465) for the first time in the Gulf of Aden.
After completing the escort mission, the task group departed the Gulf of Aden and began its counter-clockwise visit to Africa. The schedule included visits to Tunisia, Senegal, Cote d'Ivoire, Nigeria, Cameroon, Angola, Namibia and, finally, South Africa.
Although warships of the Chinese Navy have been to South Africa before, this was the first time that they had visited the seven other nations. The last occasion was in April 2011, when the 7th Escorting Flotilla paid a goodwill visit to Durban.
Whilst the ETG will not perform joint exercises with the SAN, there is a programme of cultural exchanges, with senior offices on both sides undertaking tours of each other’s ships and facilities.
Ambassador Tian Xuejun noted that South Africa is an important force, both in Africa and on the international stage, and that it is a country very friendly with China.
“China and South Africa have enjoyed very close exchanges and cooperation with South Africa in all areas including military exchanges,” Tian Xuejun said.
“The Chinese naval ETG's visit to South Africa once again demonstrates the high-level political mutual trust between the two countries and vividly reflects the ever-growing friendly relationship and cooperation between our countries and militaries, as well as the ever-deepening friendship between our peoples.”
Besides the three vessels, the 16th Escort Task Group includes two Harbin Z-9 "Haitun" maritime helicopters and 50 special forces members. There are over 660 crew in the task group.
FFG Yancheng, commissioned in June 2012, acts as the command ship. The 135 metre long, 4 100 ton vessel is equipped with a 76 mm gun, HQ-16 anti-air missiles, YJ-83J anti-surface missiles and one Z-9 helicopter.
FFG Luoyang was commissioned in September 2005, and is equipped with a double-barrelled 100 mm gun, HHQ-7 anti-air missiles, YJ-83 anti-surface missiles and one Z-9 helicopter. The 179 metre long CNS Taihu was commissioned in May 2013.
The Escort Task Group will depart Cape Town on the afternoon of Friday June 20 for the return journey to China.
Chinese Navy Escort Task Group visits Cape Town | defenceWeb
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At Navy Drills, US and China Try To Forge Relationship
Jun. 24, 2014 - 02:23PM |
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Republic of Korea navy Capt. Yong Mo Yang, defense attaché in Hawaii, waves to the Republic of Korea navy destroyer Seoae Ryu Seong-Ryong (DDG 993) as it arrives May 20 at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam. Seoae Ryu Seong-Ryong is participating in the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2014 exercise. (MCS3 Johans Chavarro / US Navy)
BEIJING— Chinese warships will join US-led naval drills off Hawaii for the first time this week, in a significant but mainly symbolic effort by the two powers’ fighting forces to make friends, not war.
Rising giant China and superpower the United States frequently find themselves at loggerheads as Beijing asserts itself in maritime disputes with neighbors and Washington seeks to shore up its influence in Asia.
Forging friendly ties — or at least an understanding — between the two heavyweights’ militaries is a key to preventing any unintended clashes from escalating, analysts say.
Yet “mil-to-mil” ties remain stunted by disputes and suspicions which have sharpened in recent years as each side accuses the other of inflaming tensions over contested islands in the East and South China Seas, aggressive cyber-spying and other issues.
“It’s pretty important,” said Michael O’Hanlon, a senior fellow at the US-based Brookings Institution and author of a book on US-China relations.
“We have a situation where small crises or skirmishes blowing up into bigger things is one of our chief worries, and a situation where US-PLA ties at the military level are underdeveloped.”
Four ships of the People’s Liberation Army Navy with an estimated 1,100 sailors on board — a missile destroyer, missile frigate, supply ship and hospital ship — will join the US and more than 20 other countries in the six-day “Rim of the Pacific” drills that begin in and around Hawaii Thursday.
The RIMPAC exercises, normally held every two years, began in 1971 but it is the first time Chinese vessels have taken part.
The head of US Pacific Command, Adm. Samuel Locklear, said: “This was a big step for the Chinese to commit to this, particularly in an exercise commanded by a US commander.
“We just have to get past these issues that are historical in nature that are causing the region problems,” he added. “And if we keep working at it we’ll get through them.”
Beijing has also touted its participation, with the official Xinhua news agency running an essay by naval academy researcher Zhang Junshe saying it “will have great benefits for the elimination of misunderstandings, the avoidance of misjudgment, and the promotion of mutual trust.”
China’s involvement marks “a very good step,” O’Hanlon said in an email. “In isolation it doesn’t do a great deal of course, but it provides the basis for more.”
'Lowest Point'
Beijing and Washington regularly pledge to strengthen ties across the board, and presidents Xi Jinping and Barack Obama held an informal get-to-know-you summit in California soon after the Chinese leader took office last year.
Both militaries have extended other invitations, including tours of one another’s aircraft carriers and high-level meetings.
But despite the positive rhetoric, tensions have grown — particularly over their roles in Asia — and spilled into unusual public confrontations.
China has emphatically asserted its claims to islands claimed or controlled by Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines, and desires greater global stature, stressing that its standing with the US must reflect a “new model of great-power relations.”
Washington announced a “pivot” to Asia in 2011, including a stronger military presence, with Obama declaring that his country “has been and always will be a Pacific nation.”
At the Shangri-La Dialogue security summit in Singapore a month ago, US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel accused Beijing of “destabilizing” actions while China’s army deputy chief of staff Wang Guanzhong criticized his words as “full of incitement, threats, intimidation” and the US as “stoking fires.”
Cyber-spying is another flashpoint for angry rhetoric, with both sides casting the other as the aggressor.
“You have had a series of incidents that make people pessimistic about the relationship,” said Peking University international relations professor Jia Qingguo.
“At the moment the relationship is at a relative low,” he said. “I don’t know if it has reached the lowest point yet.”
'Weakest Link'
Mil-to-mil contacts between the two have been on-again, off-again for decades. The US suspended them for four years after China’s 1989 crackdown on Tiananmen Square pro-democracy protesters.
Since they they have faltered under other crises, including in 1995-96 when China conducted missile exercises directed at Taiwan, in 1999 when NATO bombed China’s embassy in Belgrade, and in 2001 when a US spy plane and Chinese fighter jet collided over the South China Sea.
The “mil-mil relationship is the weakest link between the two countries and they often got suspended whenever something happened,” Jia said.
“The militaries need to talk to each other more often and at greater depth.”
But both sides increasingly recognize the need to improve ties despite disagreements, said Jingdong Yuan, an Asia-Pacific security expert at the University of Sydney.
A crucial step would be for the militaries to come up with protocols to prevent an unintended conflict from spiraling, he added.
“They both I think are coming to realize that mutual trust is both imperative but also very challenging to build,” he said.
At Navy Drills, US and China Try To Forge Relationship | Defense News | defensenews.com
Jun. 24, 2014 - 02:23PM |
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Republic of Korea navy Capt. Yong Mo Yang, defense attaché in Hawaii, waves to the Republic of Korea navy destroyer Seoae Ryu Seong-Ryong (DDG 993) as it arrives May 20 at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam. Seoae Ryu Seong-Ryong is participating in the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2014 exercise. (MCS3 Johans Chavarro / US Navy)
BEIJING— Chinese warships will join US-led naval drills off Hawaii for the first time this week, in a significant but mainly symbolic effort by the two powers’ fighting forces to make friends, not war.
Rising giant China and superpower the United States frequently find themselves at loggerheads as Beijing asserts itself in maritime disputes with neighbors and Washington seeks to shore up its influence in Asia.
Forging friendly ties — or at least an understanding — between the two heavyweights’ militaries is a key to preventing any unintended clashes from escalating, analysts say.
Yet “mil-to-mil” ties remain stunted by disputes and suspicions which have sharpened in recent years as each side accuses the other of inflaming tensions over contested islands in the East and South China Seas, aggressive cyber-spying and other issues.
“It’s pretty important,” said Michael O’Hanlon, a senior fellow at the US-based Brookings Institution and author of a book on US-China relations.
“We have a situation where small crises or skirmishes blowing up into bigger things is one of our chief worries, and a situation where US-PLA ties at the military level are underdeveloped.”
Four ships of the People’s Liberation Army Navy with an estimated 1,100 sailors on board — a missile destroyer, missile frigate, supply ship and hospital ship — will join the US and more than 20 other countries in the six-day “Rim of the Pacific” drills that begin in and around Hawaii Thursday.
The RIMPAC exercises, normally held every two years, began in 1971 but it is the first time Chinese vessels have taken part.
The head of US Pacific Command, Adm. Samuel Locklear, said: “This was a big step for the Chinese to commit to this, particularly in an exercise commanded by a US commander.
“We just have to get past these issues that are historical in nature that are causing the region problems,” he added. “And if we keep working at it we’ll get through them.”
Beijing has also touted its participation, with the official Xinhua news agency running an essay by naval academy researcher Zhang Junshe saying it “will have great benefits for the elimination of misunderstandings, the avoidance of misjudgment, and the promotion of mutual trust.”
China’s involvement marks “a very good step,” O’Hanlon said in an email. “In isolation it doesn’t do a great deal of course, but it provides the basis for more.”
'Lowest Point'
Beijing and Washington regularly pledge to strengthen ties across the board, and presidents Xi Jinping and Barack Obama held an informal get-to-know-you summit in California soon after the Chinese leader took office last year.
Both militaries have extended other invitations, including tours of one another’s aircraft carriers and high-level meetings.
But despite the positive rhetoric, tensions have grown — particularly over their roles in Asia — and spilled into unusual public confrontations.
China has emphatically asserted its claims to islands claimed or controlled by Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines, and desires greater global stature, stressing that its standing with the US must reflect a “new model of great-power relations.”
Washington announced a “pivot” to Asia in 2011, including a stronger military presence, with Obama declaring that his country “has been and always will be a Pacific nation.”
At the Shangri-La Dialogue security summit in Singapore a month ago, US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel accused Beijing of “destabilizing” actions while China’s army deputy chief of staff Wang Guanzhong criticized his words as “full of incitement, threats, intimidation” and the US as “stoking fires.”
Cyber-spying is another flashpoint for angry rhetoric, with both sides casting the other as the aggressor.
“You have had a series of incidents that make people pessimistic about the relationship,” said Peking University international relations professor Jia Qingguo.
“At the moment the relationship is at a relative low,” he said. “I don’t know if it has reached the lowest point yet.”
'Weakest Link'
Mil-to-mil contacts between the two have been on-again, off-again for decades. The US suspended them for four years after China’s 1989 crackdown on Tiananmen Square pro-democracy protesters.
Since they they have faltered under other crises, including in 1995-96 when China conducted missile exercises directed at Taiwan, in 1999 when NATO bombed China’s embassy in Belgrade, and in 2001 when a US spy plane and Chinese fighter jet collided over the South China Sea.
The “mil-mil relationship is the weakest link between the two countries and they often got suspended whenever something happened,” Jia said.
“The militaries need to talk to each other more often and at greater depth.”
But both sides increasingly recognize the need to improve ties despite disagreements, said Jingdong Yuan, an Asia-Pacific security expert at the University of Sydney.
A crucial step would be for the militaries to come up with protocols to prevent an unintended conflict from spiraling, he added.
“They both I think are coming to realize that mutual trust is both imperative but also very challenging to build,” he said.
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