Chinese Navy (PLAN) News & Discussions

[Bussard Ramjet]

China can now produce modern navy gas turbine comparable or superior compare to the west.

Why is that you have to suddenly jump to conclusions that China's stuff is better?

Western Countries have been in this business, gas turbines, for decades now, and dominate like anything. They have multiple models, while China has a few.

Look at commercial shipping. Western companies like Warstila, MAN, ABB, Rolls Royce together dominate Engines.

No doubt China is catching up fast. But it is still catching up. It is highly unlikely that China will have caught up in terms of quality, diversity, and technological strength by just few models. And Chinese engines don't even appear on the commercial market in any significant numbers.

 

[Beast]

Why is that you have to suddenly jump to conclusions that China's stuff is better?

Western Countries have been in this business, gas turbines, for decades now, and dominate like anything. They have multiple models, while China has a few.

Look at commercial shipping. Western companies like Warstila, MAN, ABB, Rolls Royce together dominate Engines.

No doubt China is catching up fast. But it is still catching up. It is highly unlikely that China will have caught up in terms of quality, diversity, and technological strength by just few models. And Chinese engines don't even appear on the commercial market in any significant numbers.

I suggest you to stop acting emotional and accept the reality of Chinese superiority. 10 years ago. China don't even have a super computer in top 10 and now we leave the dust behind for the west.

Checkout the spec of those gas turbine before you sprout nonsense. We maybe lacking behind in aviation propulsion but when comes to ship propulsion like gas turbine. Or high performance disel engine, we are toe to toe with west. Even Russian navy bough propulsion system from China. I can gurantee you it's a matter of time, Russian navy will buy Chinese gas turbine for their modern big warship project.

https://defence.pk/threads/russia-installed-chinese-engines-on-her-buyan-class-corvettes.429970/

Jane and many western new source has report no China warship breakdown during anti-piracy mission in Indian Ocean and many exercise with western counterpart. More or less tells you the quality of propulsion we made.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/plan-propulsion.htm

Can you tell me how many ship or gas propulsion system Indian made? Zero pathetic.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

I suggest you to stop acting emotional and accept the reality of Chinese superiority.

Which superiority?

10 years ago. China don't even have a super computer in top 10 and now we leave the dust behind for the west.

Yes, you have the top 2 systems in the list, but you are NOT ahead of west in supercomputing, leave alone "leave the dust behind for the west." The US is still ahead in overall supercomputing strength. Supercomputing prowess and skill is more than just having big machines. It is also about systems, applications, people, depth, use, etc.

Checkout the spec of those gas turbine before you sprout nonsense. We maybe lacking behind in aviation propulsion but when comes to ship propulsion like gas turbine. Or high performance disel engine, we are toe to toe with west. Even Russian navy bough propulsion system from China. I can gurantee you it's a matter of time, Russian navy will buy Chinese gas turbine for their modern big warship project.

Perhaps then you should do yourself a favor and capture some international market? China is one of the big shipbuilding nations. Yet, even ships built by it use engines from western companies like rolls royce, MAN, Warstila, and ABB.

Can you tell me how many ship or gas propulsion system Indian made?

The comparison is being done between west and China. Don't divert topic. It is you who made the claim that you are superior to the west, not me.

 

[Beast]

Which superiority?



Yes, you have the top 2 systems in the list, but you are NOT ahead of west in supercomputing, leave alone "leave the dust behind for the west." The US is still ahead in overall supercomputing strength. Supercomputing prowess and skill is more than just having big machines. It is also about systems, applications, people, depth, use, etc.



Perhaps then you should do yourself a favor and capture some international market? China is one of the big shipbuilding nations. Yet, even ships built by it use engines from western companies like rolls royce, MAN, Warstila, and ABB.



The comparison is being done between west and China. Don't divert topic. It is you who made the claim that you are superior to the west, not me.

You don't even bother to check out the gas turbine China made I provided and ask me which? The spec is all superior than the west.

China is new in international market but that does not our product is less superior. Our military usage more or less proves that. Plus gas turbine is not very popular in commercial market as cost is high. Most civilian ship uses Diesel engine or steam turbine. Trying to link gas turbine to commercial market is irrelevant. Gas turbine largest usage is in military sector where space efficiency and power to weight ratio is critical and cost most likely not a factor.

Regarding supercomputer. Please do yourself a favour and stop further humiliation and do more research before making childish comment out of being inferior to Chinese by 10th generation behind.


http://m.phys.org/news/2016-06-chinese-supercomputer-tops-world-fastest.html

Top 2 is Chinese and overall supercomputer is again favour us compare to USA.

Regarding supercomputer of system ,application , depth and people is precisely reflected in your supercomputer clocking speed. Supercomputer is not about just putting as many chips and the speed will magically be the fastest. If that so even Somalia can do as long as you give them many processor chips will do, is it? You seems has no idea how a supercomputer can be that fast and fastest?

Finally, I hated people who is inferior or can't make better things start to question others who is more capable. For example if you are not world class player, how can you as an amateur knows what it is to become a world class player?

Tell me how many gas turbine India made? You even need to import a single screw for your imported gas turbine breaks down.

You are not qualify.

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[Economic superpower]

I suggest you to stop acting emotional and accept the reality of Chinese superiority. 10 years ago. China don't even have a super computer in top 10 and now we leave the dust behind for the west.

Checkout the spec of those gas turbine before you sprout nonsense. We maybe lacking behind in aviation propulsion but when comes to ship propulsion like gas turbine. Or high performance disel engine, we are toe to toe with west. Even Russian navy bough propulsion system from China. I can gurantee you it's a matter of time, Russian navy will buy Chinese gas turbine for their modern big warship project.

https://defence.pk/threads/russia-installed-chinese-engines-on-her-buyan-class-corvettes.429970/

Jane and many western new source has report no China warship breakdown during anti-piracy mission in Indian Ocean and many exercise with western counterpart. More or less tells you the quality of propulsion we made.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/plan-propulsion.htm

Can you tell me how many ship or gas propulsion system Indian made? Zero pathetic.

You don't even bother to check out the gas turbine China made I provided and ask me which? The spec is all superior than the west.

China is new in international market but that does not our product is less superior. Our military usage more or less proves that. Plus gas turbine is not very popular in commercial market as cost is high. Most civilian ship uses Diesel engine or steam turbine. Trying to link gas turbine to commercial market is irrelevant. Gas turbine largest usage is in military sector where space efficiency and power to weight ratio is critical and cost most likely not a factor.

Regarding supercomputer. Please do yourself a favour and stop further humiliation and do more research before making childish comment out of being inferior to Chinese by 10th generation behind.


http://m.phys.org/news/2016-06-chinese-supercomputer-tops-world-fastest.html

Top 2 is Chinese and overall supercomputer is again favour us compare to USA.

Regarding supercomputer of system ,application , depth and people is precisely reflected in your supercomputer clocking speed. Supercomputer is not about just putting as many chips and the speed will magically be the fastest. If that so even Somalia can do as long as you give them many processor chips will do, is it? You seems has no idea how a supercomputer can be that fast and fastest?

Finally, I hated people who is inferior or can't make better things start to question others who is more capable. For example if you are not world class player, how can you as an amateur knows what it is to become a world class player?

Tell me how many gas turbine India made? You even need to import a single screw for your imported gas turbine breaks down.

You are not qualify.

You owned him

 

[cirr]

J-15T

9.15, 8.15 and J.15. What A coincidence!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The J-15B with the WS-10H2 engine.

Since the WS-10 engine is more suitable with the catapult than the AL-31 engine, that's why the J-15A uses the AL-31, while the J-15B uses the WS-10 engine. I have been saying this for years.

 

[j20blackdragon]

Catapult J-15 with WS-10.

 

[j20blackdragon]

Note the F/A-18 nose landing gear and launch bar.

 

[j20blackdragon]

 

[grey boy 2]

CV-16 updates

 

[grey boy 2]

CV-16 updates

 

[grey boy 2]

DDG 167 under going major modification included installing new VLS system