Chinese jets "unsafely" intercept U.S. military plane over South China Sea

[jhungary]

So now you are claiming US was invited by the Interim government? Actually, US was invited, not by Russia but by Britain and France to invade Russia as a punishment for withdrawing from the alliance.

No, if you did read the news, the US special force were spotted in Syria.

Please do read the Geneva Convention regarding the Rules of War. An invasion of a country only can happen when the country being invaded was controlled by another (ONE) political entity. Russian Provisional Government is NOT AN EXILE GOVERNMENT (like France during WW2) and have controlled Part of Russia until 1918 (Hence the civil war to EXPEL the White Russian from Vladivostok, Lviv and Minsk)

So, according to Law of war, the war is a civil war and is not an invasion by Russia nor the US. The fact that Tsar is abdicated does not matter of how Russia is being divided and there were 2 legitimate governments exists at the same time in Russia during 1917-1920?

And finally, do you know Turkey claim that part of Syria and used to have Turkish troop in that part of Syria YPG were fighting?

Funny Japan used the exact same justification of liberation for its invasions. Of course just as Japan become the colonial master of these colonies, US also through the war gained Philippine, Puerto Rico, Guam as colonies and Cuba as a protectorate. And along the same line, Japan also claimed credit to the independence of India, Malaysia and other Southeast Asia states that it invaded for weakening the colonial power.

That does not erase the FACT that those country DID NOT EXIST as an sovereignty prior to US intervene .

You want to talk about how "Moral" is US intervention, go open another topic, this is as off topic as it is, you do not want to start another topic on an already off-topic post.

 

[Zsari]

And finally, do you know Turkey claim that part of Syria and used to have Turkish troop in that part of Syria YPG were fighting?

Turkey claims Raqqa, over 100 miles from its border? Where did you hear that?

 

[jhungary]

Turkey claims Raqqa, over 100 miles from its border? Where did you hear that?

So, you don't know this then......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Suleyman_Shah

The Tomb of Suleyman Shah (Turkish: Süleyman Şah Türbesi) is, according to legend, the grave (tomb, mausoleum) housing the relics of Suleyman Shah (c. 1178–1236), grandfather of Osman I (1258–1326), the founder of the Ottoman Empire. This legendary tomb has since 1236 had three locations, all in present-day Syria. From 1236 until 1973, its first location was near castle Qal'at Ja'bar in present-day Al-Raqqah Governorate, Syria.

and

The Turkish government has stated that the relocation is temporary,[3] and that it does not constitute any change to the status of the tomb

You do know they still claim that location in al raqqah as their territories, right?

dude, you know nothing about Turkish and middle-eastern history, it's fun to watch you consistently putting your foot deep into your mouth.

 

[Zsari]

So, you don't know this then......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Suleyman_Shah

and

You do know they still claim that location in al raqqah as their territories, right?

dude, you know nothing about Turkish and middle-eastern history, it's fun to watch you consistently putting your foot deep into your mouth.

You mean the special force is only fighting on the tomb site? How do they get there?

 

[jhungary]

You mean the special force is only fighting on the tomb site? How do they get there?

Dude, again, you need to read up the definition of "INVASION", anything beyond that I cannot help you.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

What was your hypothetical situation again? Fact is you try to spy on our EEZ and we come to intercept. Then you cry foul that we do it within 50ft which come from your mouth. That's a fact.

Fact is that the plane You intercepted was NOT from Sweden.
You still have not answered the hypotetical question:
If a fighter pilot flies within 50 feet of another plane, over International Waters,
should he be punished?

 

[jhungary]

NOTICE :: THIS IS MY VERY LAST POST ON MY GRAMMAR.

I don't do spell check, not proof read my post before I post here, so sue me, this is a DEFENCE forum, not an English language forum, if you want to nit-pick mine or anyone's grammar, I can give you my phone number and we can talk about it, and unless you spoke with perfect fluency and without any accents, I am gonna laugh at you the whole phone call..

Otherwise, I will simply report all post related to grammar to the administration, if you talk about t and get ban, then it's hardly my problem.

 

[Zsari]

Dude, again, you need to read up the definition of "INVASION", anything beyond that I cannot help you.

Sure, black ops are not invasion just as the Iraqi war is not really a war.

If a fighter pilot flies within 50 feet of another plane, over International Waters,
should he be punished?

If its over international water, then anyone can be there, regardless how close they are. Why should one side be punished?

 

[jhungary]

Sure, black ops are not invasion just as the Iraqi war is not really a war.

As much as Chinese South China Seas nine dots claim are not encroaching other countries territories??

Again, my only suggestion to you is to read up on what defines as an "invasion". You can have whatever view you have, that does not mean you view represent one that represented by international bodies..

 

[Tiqiu]

Fact is that the plane You intercepted was NOT from Sweden.

Then why you are whinging here like those so called "Americans"? Sweden isn't that "international" from last time I checked.

If a fighter pilot flies within 50 feet of another plane, over International Waters,
should he be punished?

I guarantee you next time US reconnaissance planes flying to this vicinity to China will get the same interception again. No whinge can change it because that is what all Chinese people want.

 

[gambit]

I guarantee you next time US reconnaissance planes flying to this vicinity to China will get the same interception again. No whinge can change it because that is what all Chinese people want.

Hopefully, we will get Chinese pilots that are disciplined in their flying. Or is sloppy flying normal in the PLAAF ?

 

[Tiqiu]

Hopefully, we will get Chinese pilots that are disciplined in their flying. Or is sloppy flying normal in the PLAAF ?

Who disciplined whom? Next time Chinese pilots should take the opportunity to practice their skill sets on their opponents which comes free.

Far from sloppy, we only see professionalism.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Then why you are whinging here like those so called "Americans"? Sweden isn't that "international" from last time I checked.

I guarantee you next time US reconnaissance planes flying to this vicinity to China will get the same interception again. No whinge can change it because that is what all Chinese people want.

Sorry, this is a forum, where everyone is allowed to voice their opinion,
especially on incompetent behavior,

The risk is affecting both planes,
but I guess You think that damaging an American plane is worth the life of a Chinese pilot.
How many more Chinese pilots are You prepared to sacrifice for nothing?

Sure, black ops are not invasion just as the Iraqi war is not really a war.



If its over international water, then anyone can be there, regardless how close they are. Why should one side be punished?

There are agreements in place between China and the U.S. to ensure this should not happen.
Violating agreements is unprofessional.
But maybe Chinese pilots are undisciplined, or training is substandard, so they are not aware
of agreements. They certainly lack common sense.

 

[Zsari]

There are agreements in place between China and the U.S. to ensure this should not happen.
Violating agreements is unprofessional.
But maybe Chinese pilots are undisciplined, or training is substandard, so they are not aware
of agreements. They certainly lack common sense.

Not if US has been violating Chinese territorial water. Besides, the memorandum is a nonbinding one.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Not if US has been violating Chinese territorial water. Besides, the memorandum is a nonbinding one.

There is a difference between Territorial waters and economic zones.
Economic Zones are outside Territorial Waters.

The memorandum is what makes sense.
Still waiting for the answer on how many Chinese Fighter Pilots must die
before China stops behaving like Children...