Chinese football team will no long be weak in 10 years

[Abid123]

Them and the New Zealanders should be put into the Euro league and get clowned on by their white brothers.

Australia should immediately be removed from AFC. No reason to have a country in Oceania in Asia.

 

[MH.Yang]

Okay, let's count Olympic

Volleyball at the Summer Olympics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Men's Olympic Game Result

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That's only 1 rank 8 and 1 rank 5, how does it consistently top 8???

Women Olympic Volleyball

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3 gold only, that's ties with Cuba and less than Soviet Union 4.

China has won a total of ten championships in the three major women's volleyball tournaments. Five World Cup titles, three Olympic titles, and two World Championship titles. Which country has won more than ten championships?


BTW: Don't combine the gold medals of the USSR and Russia, the USSR is not equal to Russia.

 

[Viet]

Well, they can play, just probably will be beaten badly by them......

Very hard. China people generally lack of enthusiasm for football. If you don’t like you don’t do anything good. People in Europe are crazy of football, the French, the Spaniards.

 

[beijingwalker]

China has won a total of ten championships in the three major women's volleyball tournaments. Five World Cup titles, three Olympic titles, and two World Championship titles. Which country has won more than ten championships?


BTW: Don't combine the gold medals of the USSR and Russia, the USSR is not equal to Russia.

PRC first competed in the Olympic Games in 1984, and USSR last competed in the Olympic Games in 1988

Very hard. China people generally lack of enthusiasm for football. If you don’t like you don’t do anything good. People in Europe are crazy of football, the French, the Spaniards.

Chinese football team used to be one of the top teams in Asia, beating Japan and Korea hands down, commercialization killed Chinese football.

 

[jhungary]

China has won a total of ten championships in the three major women's volleyball tournaments. Five World Cup titles, three Olympic titles, and two World Championship titles. Which country has won more than ten championships?


BTW: Don't combine the gold medals of the USSR and Russia, the USSR is not equal to Russia.

You count world cup but not grandprix? Brazil itself won 12 grandprix.... when 11 out of 12 World cup are held in Japan....

sure, I can say I ran faster than Usain Bolt too if we only count the race I won....

Very hard. China people generally lack of enthusiasm for football. If you don’t like you don’t do anything good. People in Europe are crazy of football, the French, the Spaniards.

Well, I just don't see how China can face any of those team when Japan and South Korea are a lot better than China and still only 1/200 odds from TAB.

But then that doesn't mean it won't happen, Japan did score a win with Spain, IIRC It was 1 to 75 odds from TAB, would have earn 7500 if I put 100 on Japan..

 

[MH.Yang]

You count world cup but not grandprix? Brazil itself won 12 grandprix.... when 11 out of 12 World cup are held in Japan....

sure, I can say I ran faster than Usain Bolt too if we only count the race I won....


Well, I just don't see how China can face any of those team when Japan and South Korea are a lot better than China and still only 1/200 odds from TAB.

But then that doesn't mean it won't happen, Japan did score a win with Spain, IIRC It was 1 to 75 odds from TAB, would have earn 7500 if I put 100 on Japan..

The World Women's Volleyball Grand Prix is not one of the Big Three events.

The Big Three tournaments are held every four years and the World Women's Volleyball Grand Prix is held every year.

Many countries will only send their second string players to the World Women's Volleyball Grand Prix to avoid affecting their domestic league, such as China.

 

[REhorror]

So big deal, Japan win 1 gold and 1 bronze, you can kiss my behind with it if you want, that mean shit man. It's just the 2nd loser.

If Japan is that good, why not defeat Iraq and Qatar and claim gold? The fact that these two team are equally applies to Japan is the same. You aren't talking about a sure win issue like you claim to be, because if that is true, then Japan would have win gold in all 4.

So, Japan beat them Australia beat them, and somehow you are better?? Again, I used to think you are a logical person. But you think talking about beating Peru is the precursor for being "World Class" then I would say you either have a very loose meaning of world class or you are seriously blinded by fact. Set aside the Peru team is different in 2005 and 2023 I never claim Australia is a good team, you think I claim that is because I said they are on par with Japan, which you think is world class, my point from the beginning to end is both Japan and Australia are not good at international stage. You don't want to admit it, that's fine, I don't really care, the problem for you is that you think Japan is god, when I can only describe their result in all major international competition is dismal. Again, 4 out of 7 with win rate less than 50% is not exactly world class, I can probably name 40 teams that have better odd than Japan, as I said, you either have a very loose meaning of world class or you are really blinded by the fact.

So what Japan beat the Aussie, that is the wrong White team they need to beat, if they are indeed world class, we will be seeing them beating other white team such as the Brits, the Italian, the German, the French, and Spain (Not the 20 to 1 odds world cup qualified which will most likely not going to be repeated) because that's what world class mean, not when you beat Australia and think white team is trashed,

Again, I never said Australia is world class football superpower, you did so with Japan, so I don't really need to justify how good or bad Australia play, but you do for Japan, and you still have not demonstrated how Japan is world class when they even have problem defeating second tier CONMEBOL team. I would have use Mexico, which is where my dad come from and tell you about it, does that make me less a white slave?

Japan is not good in international football is because they are not good in Japanese football, race have no issue here, you think I follow blindly of white race in football because I said UEFA are better, but did it ever occur to you that I said UEFA is better because THEY ARE? In this case, aren't you then became a slave to the Japanese because you and them are of the same Race? Then how is it you are better than me?

Oh man the desperation.

Japan has won 4 AFC gold, that means more than Saudi, Korea and Qatar and especially Australia. These teams have to catch up to Japan in gold, not vice versa.

And Japan not good in japanese football? Wtf am I reading? The top scorer in either the J League and the japanese nat team are japanese LOL.

Yeah, Japan beats what Australia beats and even more. Tell me when Australia can win against Germany, Spain or even hold Croatia to penalty in the WC.

I love your butthurt rant.

 

[jhungary]

The World Women's Volleyball Grand Prix is not one of the Big Three events.

The Big Three tournaments are held every four years and the World Women's Volleyball Grand Prix is held every year.

Many countries will only send their second string players to the World Women's Volleyball Grand Prix to avoid affecting their domestic league, such as China.

Dude, Grand Prix is the championship league from FIVB with IIRC 30 different teams from all over the world.

World Cup is an invitation even that ALWAYS happened in Japan and Japan will ALWAYS pre-qualified with 13 teams.

I don't really know which world you live in, but to say Grand Prix is less representative and is the big 3 is even more than a stretch.

 

[jhungary]

Oh man the desperation.

Japan has won 4 AFC gold, that means more than Saudi, Korea and Qatar and especially Australia. These teams have to catch up to Japan in gold, not vice versa.

And Japan not good in japanese football? Wtf am I reading? The top scorer in either the J League and the japanese nat team are japanese LOL.

Yeah, Japan beats what Australia beats and even more. Tell me when Australia can win against Germany, Spain or even hold Croatia to penalty in the WC.

I love your butthurt rant.

Dude, you have a very serious issue, I don't do fan talks, again, I am also not a fan with Australia. And as I said again and again, and you refused to even take in, I never said Australia has a good football team, in fact, the analogy I used is Australia can beat any team in Basketball in Asia repeatedly, but it would mean shit because the level are different in the US, or Europe or even Turkey. I think the only person to be butt hurt is you when i say Japanese aren't good at football.

It's like the time when Australian Men's basketball team beat virtually everyone in Asia and Oceania, that's not an achievement, because that's not where the best team were.

As for whether or not they are similar team, I don't do emotional fan-cheering, I only do statistic and facts. and the facts are follow

FIFA World Cup records and statistics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is Japanese play result from all previous world cup match

This is the result of Australia from all previous world cup match

Japan Play history is as follow 25 (Match Played) 7 Win (28%) 6 Draw (24%) and 12 Loss (48%)
Australia Play history is as follow 20 (Match Player) 4 Win (20%) 4 Draw (20%) 12 Loss (60%)

That is similar in percentage because it is +-10%, because the gap between Japan and Australia is not like This, and this is how Brazil, a truelyu world class team, played

114 (P) 76W (67%) 19D (17%) and 19 L (17%), You are talking about 30-40% +/-. In fact, even middle tier European Team are at different league than Japan or Australia. Here are some highlight, I am not going to do percentage but you know it's at least 20% =/- in each category

and that's statistic and fact, I am not talking about just mouth war, You can of course think what you want to think, thinking which team can the Japanese defeat, and which team the Australian can't that's your pejorative, I don't, as I don't live in an imaginary world, outliner happens, even US can be beaten in Basketball by Puerto Rico (2004) that does not mean US is not a great team in Basketball, or in fact, the GOAT in Basketball, so I don't see any point continue on with this conversation.

 

[REhorror]

Dude, you have a very serious issue, I don't do fan talks, again, I am also not a fan with Australia. And as I said again and again, and you refused to even take in, I never said Australia has a good football team, in fact, the analogy I used is Australia can beat any team in Basketball in Asia repeatedly, but it would mean shit because the level are different in the US, or Europe or even Turkey. I think the only person to be butt hurt is you when i say Japanese aren't good at football.



As for whether or not they are similar team, I don't do emotional fan-cheering, I only do statistic and facts. and the facts are follow

FIFA World Cup records and statistics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is Japanese play result from all previous world cup match

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This is the result of Australia from all previous world cup match

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Japan Play history is as follow 25 (Match Played) 7 Win (28%) 6 Draw (24%) and 12 Loss (48%)
Australia Play history is as follow 20 (Match Player) 4 Win (20%) 4 Draw (20%) 12 Loss (60%)

That is similar in percentage because it is +-10%, because the gap between Japan and Australia is not like This, and this is how Brazil, a truelyu world class team, played

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114 (P) 76W (67%) 19D (17%) and 19 L (17%), You are talking about 30-40% +/-. In fact, even middle tier European Team are at different league than Japan or Australia. Here are some highlight, I am not going to do percentage but you know it's at least 20% =/- in each category

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and that's statistic and fact, I am not talking about just mouth war, You can of course think what you want to think, that's your pejorative, I don't, so I don't see any point continue on with this conversation.

The so-called not a fan of Australia who constantly mentions Australia.

Based on your "statistics", Australia is ranked 41, a friggin' over 10 ranks lower than Japan.
Meanwhile, Japan, ranking 29, is indeed among the league of the european, like the austrian at 21.

I mean, I still don't get what you are trying to say? The aussies are crap compared to the whites in Europe, while Japan is comparable to minor european countries? Is that supposed to be a bad thing for us asians?

EDIT: And keep mentioning basketball LOL. Basketball is the only thing the aussies are good at, they constantly get beaten at football and volleyball by asians. I guess your whitey masters are good at swimming too but that also has been beaten by the chinese lately

 

[jhungary]

The so-called not a fan of Australia who constantly mentions Australia.

Based on your "statistics", Australia is ranked 41, a friggin' over 10 ranks lower than Japan.
Meanwhile, Japan, ranking 29, is indeed among the league of the european, like the austrian at 21.

I mean, I still don't get what you are trying to say? The aussies are crap compared to the whites in Europe, while Japan is in comparable to minor european countries? Is that supposed to be a bad thing for us asians?

Dude, that's rank by point, Australia play less, of course they have less point. (5 game less as Japan played 25 game, Australia played 20 game, that's 15-point just there) where the actual point different is 11 points.

I quote that so you can look at match history. And if Japan is only as good as Austria (It actually not because the last team that beat the Japanese in Ranking is Romania) Then you aren't at the same European league, if Romanian Gypsie can beat you up in ranking and probably in a match

By the way, that's still 38% Win 23% Draw and 39% Loss, so Japan wasn't really at that league if we are talking about Percentage

 

[REhorror]

Dude, that's rank by point, Australia play less, of course they have less point. (5 game less as Japan played 25 game, Australia played 20 game, that's 15-point just there) where the actual point different is 11 points.

I quote that so you can look at match history. And if Japan is only as good as Austria (It actually not because the last team that beat the Japanese in Ranking is Romania) Then you aren't at the same European league, if Romanian Gypsie can beat you up in ranking and probably in a match

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By the way, that's still 38% Win 23% Draw and 39% Loss, so Japan wasn't really at that league if we are talking about Percentage

And why didn't Australia play more WC matches LOL? Lemme answer you.
Because Australies qualifies for the WC lesser than Japan. This speaks volumes of the differences in quality between the two.

And Romanian gypsies, like any european team, isn't weak at all, friendo, they still smack your yellow aussies the heck out meanwhile Japan holds a better chance of beating them than your white masters.

By that ranking, Japan (and S. Korea) indeeds belong to the minor european league country being Czech Republic, Austria, Denmark, Romania, based on WC performance. I have no problems at all if asian teams can even meet this goal and have regular WC appearance.

 

[jhungary]

And why didn't Australia play more WC matches LOL? Lemme answer you.
Because Australies qualifies for the WC lesser than Japan. This speaks volumes of the differences in quality between the two.\

Again, that's because prior to 2007, there are virtually no way as they need to defeat the 4th or 5th (depends on host) team in South America to get top WC. Since then Australia didn't even miss one. If Japan is doing the same requirement, do you think Japan have the same chance to qualify as they had now??

And Romanian gypsies, like any european team, isn't weak at all, friendo, they still smack your yellow aussies the heck out meanwhile Japan holds a better chance of beating them than your white masters.

Eh....Romania ranked 48 in FIFA ranking, and they are really shit, they can't even beat country like Switzerland......

And again, I would scale back the racial abuse if I were you. Again, would it be okay for you if I root for Mexico, which is half my skin color?? Which they just beat your yeti japanese a$$ 2-0 in the last Olympic.

You don't like white people, that's fine, but that does not mean an Asian or half Asian can't like European team or root them, otherwise are you going to turn off the TV once all Asian team are gone in R16? Again, I like to watch UEFA but not J-League, not because the player are white, that's because it is highly competitive

Consider this your last warning on the issue

By that ranking, Japan (and S. Korea) indeeds belong to the minor european league country being Czech Republic, Austria, Denmark, Romania, based on WC performance. I have no problems at all if asian teams can even meet this goal and have regular WC appearance.

I never said South Korea is better, in fact, let's go back to the first post you quote me

Japan? Do you mean South Korea? I don't recall Japan had anything in World Cup other than round of 16 for a very long time, at least South Korea ranked 4 in 2002 world cup. And Japan hasn't even been dominating in Asian cup since 2007 when Iraq, Qatar, Australia and Japan all win once. I mean, they are a strong team in Asia but I wouldn't consider Japan "Dominate" in Asia

And yes, i have higher regard to South Korean team than Japanese team, as you can see in this post.

 

[REhorror]

Again, that's because prior to 2007, there are virtually no way as they need to defeat the 4th or 5th (depends on host) team in South America to get top WC. Since then Australia didn't even miss one. If Japan is doing the same requirement, do you think Japan have the same chance to qualify as they had now??



Eh....Romania ranked 48 in FIFA ranking, and they are really shit, they can't even beat country like Switzerland......

And again, I would scale back the racial abuse if I were you. Again, would it be okay for you if I root for Mexico, which is half my skin color?? Which they just beat your yeti japanese a$$ 2-0 in the last Olympic.

You don't like white people, that's fine, but that does not mean an Asian or half Asian can't like European team or root them, otherwise are you going to turn off the TV once all Asian team are gone in R16? Again, I like to watch UEFA but not J-League, not because the player are white, that's because it is highly competitive

Consider this your last warning on the issue


I never said South Korea is better, in fact, let's go back to the first post you quote me


And yes, i have higher regard to South Korean team than Japanese team, as you can see in this post.

Ah yes, more self-hating hapa. Utterly pathetic show, boyo.
Japan has consistently qualified for the WC since 1998, LOL.

And now you bring back the Fifa ranking, do you believe it now?
Do you think Australia can consistently beat Switzerland, LOL?

This dude is racking his brain hard between the Fifa ranking and WC performance, never mind that both the Fifa ranking and WC performance ranking-wise, Japan is superior to Australia.

And yes, i have higher regard to South Korean team than Japanese team, as you can see in this post.

Yeah, OK, it doesn't matter. Both the Japanese and S. Korea trump the Australian team easily, heck, both of them are already comparable to minor european league already, meanwhile Australia has trouble qualifying in the WC.

 

[MH.Yang]

Dude, Grand Prix is the championship league from FIVB with IIRC 30 different teams from all over the world.

World Cup is an invitation even that ALWAYS happened in Japan and Japan will ALWAYS pre-qualified with 13 teams.

I don't really know which world you live in, but to say Grand Prix is less representative and is the big 3 is even more than a stretch.