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No, china isn't pushing , pakistan to open the landline for america, as long as americans, were engaged in afghanistan, & in Iraq! China is getting higher & higher economicly!I dont understand why China need to loby for US to end the deadlock on the land rout issue between US & Pakistan.????????????
Once Pakistan gets out of American camp , it will have plenty of new friends hopefully sincere ... Of course I am talking , besides Beijing ... China's FM visit will put more pressure on the US already under trouble with supply lines closed , Taliban not negotiating , trying to find a face saving exit , already we have rejected US aid and said a straight " NO " to their demands at Chicago !
Where does the confidence that SCO wants a Pakistan that is not clear about what Pakistan is, as a member, come from? Does China really want a Pakistan, as SCO member and ally, that is committed to "limping" along while all others are determined to run towards development??
Sorry if this busts anybody's bubble, but Pakistan are not going anywhere - not until, the question of "WHY Pakistan" and "WHAT is Pakistan?" has been answered by Pakistanis, to the satisfaction of both Pakistanis and the world.
Now this may upset some, what can I tell you, if this reality is a problem, then change it - if you can't change it, what makes you think China, SCO or anybody else can change it??
Pakistan is headed for some serious bloodletting, better we get that over with sooner rather than later - what the Quaid e Azam won has been squandered, not any number of prostrations towards Riyadh will win back what has been lost to Riyadh, only the will to create a Pakistan that is true to the principles of the Quaid e Azam is worthy of survival, worth fighting for.
China well officially suppprts Pakistans application as does Russia. China opposes Indian entry. Pakistan is important from a geo strategic location but i do agree that we have leaders who are liabilities to Pakistan
But China has held back on such an endorsement due to its historical differences with New Delhi over border disputes and India’s desire to get more involved in activities in the South China Sea, which China regards as its sphere of influence.
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/182904-india-cozies-up-russia-china.html#ixzz1w5kAbaRM
btw I think you are being optimistic it would be cruel to be kind to have some 2000 people eliminated but I cant see anyone who is ruthless enough in Pakistan to take such drastic action.
Pakistan is required to undertake certain actions (clean up the Islamists and be rid of the ethnic and linguistic separatists, change the structure of its economy).
as for being optimistic - 2000 people? Not really, I don't think it will be in the thousands, I honestly think it will be in numbers so large that we will never know the true numbers - and it will be good - yes, good, if and only if what is to emerge is a Quaid e Azams Pakistan.
We are talking at cross purposes. I was talking about the ones that pull the strings you may be talking about all with a certain mind set. If Madrassas could brain wash them one way surely we should be able to deprogram those that belong to a certain cult
Deprogramming is for cults, and this is not a problem in Pakistan, the culture wars the Saudi have imposed on us, have consumed millions, and it's not just islamists, it's the ethnic and linguistic divides that animate politics, the state that seeks to not be a state - from head to toe, it's an infection that requires some strong medicine --
See, Aryan, this problem can be dealt with if the state has the will to deal with it - but we might as well be saying that the blind will be able to handle obstacles if only they could see
SCO is where Chinese and Pakistani interests do not coincide.
FaujHistorian said:SCO is where Chinese and Pakistani interests do not coincide.
Please expand on this
Thank you for elaborating on the subject - though one may ask what difference does it make to Russia and China what route, or where gas is piped from to their countries
........ the Chinese have built Gwadar and has offered to build refineries and Gas processing facilities at the port. just to see it fail.
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every body needs, every body in this world my friend, as americans needs oil, thats why ksa is thier friend, iran cant because, it not ready , to accept israel?
usa needs nato, to rule the world, china sees usa , a deniable all weather threat, last indian visit by miss, clinton wasnt , seen a decent one, specially after, telling india to cut back its, buying of oil from IRAN, & other different matters, which cant be , disclosed, now, so its a changing world, where every one needs , everyone!
iran, still not, think its safe from , usa which is holding its grounds in , afghanistan!
russians, are angry over, the announcment of , missile shield by nato, on its european boders, so every one needs every one!
like americans, needs nato supplies, to be openned , for them by pakistan!
eeryone needs, everyone! in the end.