Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593299912690728976

 

[LKJ86]

J-16

Via @空军在线 from Weibo

 

[LKJ86]

J-16

Via CCTV 7 and @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

 

[LKJ86]

J-16

Via http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2022-11/24/content_10201194_2.htm

 

[Deino]

J-16
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Via http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2022-11/24/content_10201194_2.htm

And even more interesting! 6th AB confirmed!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595785414111121408

 

[siegecrossbow]

https://weibo.com/1914919243/MgFVq3rWx#comment

https://www.scramble.nl/planning/orbats/china/china-air-force#ZG17109

Suixi received J-16. Will replace the Su-30MKK still operating in the base. Looks like they will not be getting J-20 in the foreseeable future. That said, based on PLAAF experience J-10 pilots transition easier to the J-20 than flanker pilots.

 

[Deino]

https://weibo.com/1914919243/MgFVq3rWx#comment

https://www.scramble.nl/planning/orbats/china/china-air-force#ZG17109

Suixi received J-16. Will replace the Su-30MKK still operating in the base. Looks like they will not be getting J-20 in the foreseeable future. That said, based on PLAAF experience J-10 pilots transition easier to the J-20 than flanker pilots.

But even more interesting is to know, what will happen with the Su-35? Will they remain within the 6th AB or transferred to another unit or will Suixi's 6th Air Brigade become a mega-unit with both Su-35 and J-16s?

 

[siegecrossbow]

But even more interesting is to know, what will happen with the Su-35? Will they remain within the 6th AB or transferred to another unit or will Suixi's 6th Air Brigade become a mega-unit with both Su-35 and J-16s?

They will complement one another.

 

[Deino]

They will complement one another.

But anyway, this would be a first for the PLAAF: The 6th AB has 24 - eventually only 20 active - Su-38 in service and 6-8 Su-30MKK as trainers. Now according to the serial numbers 65 and 67 additional J-16s and it seems almost as if these could be not only replacements for the MKKs but like you said, complements.

As such, this Air Brigade could eventually be almost twice the size of a regular brigade.

 

[LKJ86]

Via http://www.81.cn/kj/2022-11/28/content_10201791.htm

 

[LKJ86]

Via @东海舰队发布 from Weixin

 

[LKJ86]

J-11BH and J-11BSH

Via http://www.81.cn/bz/2022-12/01/content_10202564.htm

 

[Readerdefence]

And even more interesting! 6th AB confirmed!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595785414111121408

Hi Deino
what do we mean by 61675 number if possible to answer please and 1006 too please
thank you

 

[Deino]

Hi Deino
what do we mean by 61675 number if possible to answer please and 1006 too please
thank you

ok ... both numbers have a different meaning. The first is the regular 5-digit PLAAF serial number which consists of the following code: ABxCx, so that 61675 means ABC = 61x7x and xx = 65.

Within that system, ABC minus 611 is the air brigade, that operates this particular aircraft and xx is the individual aircraft within that unit, so 617 - 611 = 6 means, this J-16 is from the 6th Air Brigade, which is based at Suixi and xx = 65 means, it is the 65 aircraft within this brigade, however there are sometimes not all numbers allocated.

The second number 1006 is the construction number of this particular J-16 and it has this system:

1006 is according to the BBxx system, a Batch 10 aircraft (BB = batch) and xx = the 6th J-16 within that batch.

Hope this helps.

 

[Readerdefence]

ok ... both numbers have a different meaning. The first is the regular 5-digit PLAAF serial number which consists of the following code: ABxCx, so that 61675 means ABC = 61x7x and xx = 65.

Within that system, ABC minus 611 is the air brigade, that operates this particular aircraft and xx is the individual aircraft within that unit, so 617 - 611 = 6 means, this J-16 is from the 6th Air Brigade, which is based at Suixi and xx = 65 means, it is the 65 aircraft within this brigade, however there are sometimes not all numbers allocated.

The second number 1006 is the construction number of this particular J-16 and it has this system:

1006 is according to the BBxx system, a Batch 10 aircraft (BB = batch) and xx = the 6th J-16 within that batch.

Hope this helps.

Hi Deino that’s a great help from you to explain all this in detailed for me with all the numbers around
thank you