Chinese ballistic missiles can target nearly the entirety of the US

[Hindustani78]

BuddhaPalm says China should bomb Manila because it is the capital.

Tue May 12, 2015 6:44am EDT
Japan steps up maritime engagement with Philippines, Vietnam| Reuters


Two Japanese destroyers and a Philippine warship participated in a maritime safety exercise to the west of Manila in the South China Sea, practicing the drill for unplanned encounters, known as CUES, Philippine officials said.

Do u really think that usa will nuke China? Stupid Indian. Although if China nuke Japan I am pretty sure that usa don't have the guts to nuke China. Why? Because Japan is not that important to usa. I am pretty sure usa don't want exchange nukes between usa and China for Japan's sake

US warships do have Nuclear weapons on board which are around the clock in Asia Pacific.

SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 10, 2015) Two F/A-18 Super Hornets and two Royal Malaysian Air Force SU-30MKM/Flanker H fly in formation above the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) during a bi-lateral exercise aimed at enhancing security ties and partnerships with the Malaysian Armed Forces. The Carl Vinson Carrier Strike group is deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations supporting security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Lt. Jonathan Pfaff/Released)

SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 8, 2015) The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70), the guided-missile destroyer USS Gridley (DDG 101), the guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), and Malaysian frigate KD Lekir (FSG 26) participate in a bi-lateral training exercise, aimed at developing and expanding bi-lateral exercises with the Malaysian Royal Navy. The Carl Vinson Strike Group is deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations supporting security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class John Philip Wagner, Jr./Released)

SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 10, 2015) Aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70), center, guided-missile destroyer USS Gridley (DDG 101), center top, guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), right, and Malaysian frigate KD Lekir (FSG 26) participate in a bi-lateral training exercise, aimed at developing and expanding bi-lateral exercises with the Malaysian Royal Navy. Carl Vinson Strike group is deployed to 7th Fleet area of operations supporting security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class John Philip Wagner, Jr./Released)

 

[Aepsilons]

Japan and South Korea are under Nuclear Umbrella of United States.

US warships have nuclear weapons on board

The long-range THAAD missiles, along with their Powerful X Band Radars, if deployed in both South Korea and Japan, offers a multilayered anti-ballistic missile defense that could theoretically render a sizable chunk of China’s ballistic missile arsenal obsolete.

“The THAAD would have a range of around 2,000 kilometers, which goes beyond the goal of countering missiles from North Korea,”

Korean Missile defense shield is a mix of Patriot PAC-3 missiles, SM-6 and perhaps SM-3 missiles

Exciting developments, indeed. I actually can't wait till the SOKOR government finalizes the deployment of the THAADs.

 

[21stCentury]

This is old news.

 

[Aepsilons]

Japan can sell PAC-3? Isn't it a modified American Patriot missile?

I mean, Japan produces its own PAC-3 right?

And yes, yes it is.

Japan Licensed to Produce Patriot PAC-3s


Of course, we're producing these babies and have already deployed many throughout the Japanese Home Islands.

Producing a batch of maybe 6-8 batteries for the Philippines would be no problem.

Afterall, your country is already considered a defense ally of Japan's.

Manila's security is now Japanese strategic importance.

 

[Hindustani78]

Exciting developments, indeed. I actually can't wait till the SOKOR government finalizes the deployment of the THAADs.

One interesting point which i forget to mention .

China has signed S400 deal with Russian Federation and already there are advance Russian Air defenses placed in Far east, So South Korea for sure will go for Thaad Batteries.

China buys S-400 Russian air defense systems - Business Insider
Russia's S-400 air defense systems are capable of intercepting any aerial target at a range of about 250 miles. Here it is on display in front of the Kremlin.

S-400 Triumf systems spotted in Petropavlovsk in the Russian Far East
Apr 22, 2015

 

[xunzi]

I want to remind everyone,, including our American friend, that we have a no first use doctrine.

 

[gambit]

That is not logical, if China nuke Japan. Then US will nuke China?
What is the cost and benefit for US?

Nuke China--> China will nuke back --->US has nothing left
Don't nuke China---> US lose Japan (they must have something left)

If you are US , this is a easy math.

Right before WW II, Japan was at the precipice of peace and war. Except for coal, Japan either did not have or deficient in all the major resources -- raw materials -- needed by an industrialized society. From China and Britain (Malaya), were iron ore import. From the US, over half of oil. And right before the attack on the US (Pearl Harbor), Japan was no longer sufficient in food, meaning rationing was only a few yrs away.

So going by your childish mentality, what benefits were there for the US to put Imperial Japan on notice for the Japanese conquest of Manchuria ?

After the Japanese conquest of the Korean peninsula and China's Manchuria, by 1939 Japan was completely self sufficient in food. Then there was a five-yr plan from 1937 to raise iron ore output by fourfolds and coal by threefolds. The only problem left was oil and if the Dutch West Indies, which was producing roughly %3-4 of global output, could be taken, that %3-4 output would be enough to cover Japan's needs and wean Japan off US oil export. Eventually, because of Japanese atrocities on mainland China, the US decided to cut off oil and scrap metals export to Japan. Next was WW II in Asia.

The US essentially turned Imperial Japan into a hostile over weak and exploited China. The US could have let Japan screwed China over and over. Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong fighting each other would make it easy for the Japanese to do their thing. We could have continued to profit with oil and scrap metal export to Imperial Japan. After all, the US is an imperial power as well, right ? One imperial power help the other.

Fast forward to today. You -- child -- is telling US that if China 'nuke' Japan, the US will do nothing for fear of China's nuclear response to US ?

So let us play your childish game...China does not have the parity in quantity and delivery as US, so if China 'nuke' Japan, that would deplete some of China's nuclear weapons stock. In response, the US and allies will 'nuke' China at all her major political and economic centers. Buh-bye Beijing of all that archeological treasures. If China is able to respond, we will endure but we will make sure China will not recover the way Germany and Japan were not able to recover except under strict supervision. No one in Asia will ally with China. Not even the Russians.

Why should the Russians assists and defends China ? If China's major power centers are nuclear wasteland, the rest of China will be completely exploitable by Russia with little or no resistance. China's coast will be rendered mostly unusable and will serve as security buffer. Japan maybe gone, but so would China. Who benefited by China's foolishness ? US and Russia.

This is why you guys are so entertaining on this forum. So much for that 'high Chinese IQ'.

 

[TaiShang]

Why would not Russia nuke the US into a glass-land and then enjoy all the country as its new exploit, not the least take Alaska back?

 

[gambit]

Why would not Russia nuke the US into a glass-land and then enjoy all the country as its new exploit, not the least take Alaska back?

China is the more immediate spoil, kid. Thirty five hundreds km of unprotected border. Besides, the US have enough nuclear stockpiles to 'nuke' China and deters Russia.

 

[KAL-EL]

Tue May 12, 2015 6:44am EDT
Japan steps up maritime engagement with Philippines, Vietnam| Reuters


Two Japanese destroyers and a Philippine warship participated in a maritime safety exercise to the west of Manila in the South China Sea, practicing the drill for unplanned encounters, known as CUES, Philippine officials said.

US warships do have Nuclear weapons on board which are around the clock in Asia Pacific.

SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 10, 2015) Two F/A-18 Super Hornets and two Royal Malaysian Air Force SU-30MKM/Flanker H fly in formation above the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) during a bi-lateral exercise aimed at enhancing security ties and partnerships with the Malaysian Armed Forces. The Carl Vinson Carrier Strike group is deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations supporting security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Lt. Jonathan Pfaff/Released)

SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 8, 2015) The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70), the guided-missile destroyer USS Gridley (DDG 101), the guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), and Malaysian frigate KD Lekir (FSG 26) participate in a bi-lateral training exercise, aimed at developing and expanding bi-lateral exercises with the Malaysian Royal Navy. The Carl Vinson Strike Group is deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations supporting security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class John Philip Wagner, Jr./Released)

SOUTH CHINA SEA (May 10, 2015) Aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70), center, guided-missile destroyer USS Gridley (DDG 101), center top, guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), right, and Malaysian frigate KD Lekir (FSG 26) participate in a bi-lateral training exercise, aimed at developing and expanding bi-lateral exercises with the Malaysian Royal Navy. Carl Vinson Strike group is deployed to 7th Fleet area of operations supporting security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class John Philip Wagner, Jr./Released)

My heart goes pitter patter looking at close-ups of those mighty ships

Why would not Russia nuke the US into a glass-land and then enjoy all the country as its new exploit, not the least take Alaska back?

Because Russia would be nuked right back into "glass-land"

 

[TaiShang]

I guess when China's nukes do half of the job, Russia can finish the rest and enjoy the war spoil like nothing else. Some US ultra nationalists have a smaller brain than a cartoon character. Stop nuke-mongering already.

 

[CCP]

Right before WW II, Japan was at the precipice of peace and war. Except for coal, Japan either did not have or deficient in all the major resources -- raw materials -- needed by an industrialized society. From China and Britain (Malaya), were iron ore import. From the US, over half of oil. And right before the attack on the US (Pearl Harbor), Japan was no longer sufficient in food, meaning rationing was only a few yrs away.

So going by your childish mentality, what benefits were there for the US to put Imperial Japan on notice for the Japanese conquest of Manchuria ?

After the Japanese conquest of the Korean peninsula and China's Manchuria, by 1939 Japan was completely self sufficient in food. Then there was a five-yr plan from 1937 to raise iron ore output by fourfolds and coal by threefolds. The only problem left was oil and if the Dutch West Indies, which was producing roughly %3-4 of global output, could be taken, that %3-4 output would be enough to cover Japan's needs and wean Japan off US oil export. Eventually, because of Japanese atrocities on mainland China, the US decided to cut off oil and scrap metals export to Japan. Next was WW II in Asia.

The US essentially turned Imperial Japan into a hostile over weak and exploited China. The US could have let Japan screwed China over and over. Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong fighting each other would make it easy for the Japanese to do their thing. We could have continued to profit with oil and scrap metal export to Imperial Japan. After all, the US is an imperial power as well, right ? One imperial power help the other.

We know US is the main supporter of Japan in the war.
But the price of the support is : Japan have to attack SU.
But Japan is so "smart" . It sighed "Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact" with SU at 1941/4/13.
US freeze all the support at 1941/7/26
Then...

Fast forward to today. You -- child -- is telling US that if China 'nuke' Japan, the US will do nothing for fear of China's nuclear response to US ?

So let us play your childish game...China does not have the parity in quantity and delivery as US, so if China 'nuke' Japan, that would deplete some of China's nuclear weapons stock. In response, the US and allies will 'nuke' China at all her major political and economic centers. Buh-bye Beijing of all that archeological treasures. If China is able to respond, we will endure but we will make sure China will not recover the way Germany and Japan were not able to recover except under strict supervision. No one in Asia will ally with China. Not even the Russians.

Why should the Russians assists and defends China ? If China's major power centers are nuclear wasteland, the rest of China will be completely exploitable by Russia with little or no resistance. China's coast will be rendered mostly unusable and will serve as security buffer. Japan maybe gone, but so would China. Who benefited by China's foolishness ? US and Russia.

This is why you guys are so entertaining on this forum. So much for that 'high Chinese IQ'.

You bull shit has a huge assumption:
China will not nuke/finish US or not able to.

If so, China is hopeless and should follow US's order right now. But that is not the case.

 

[Beidou2020]

The fact that China can reach the entire US means the US can't do a damn thing to China.

MAD has been established which means the US military can never ever afford a war with China.

China can proceed to dismantle the American economy without worrying about getting bombed.

 

[TaiShang]

The nuke-mongering by US radical nationalists is telling. Shows the historical readiness of having used it in the past.

Just go back to your bunker, the above tomboy.

 

[TaiShang]

Oh, the tomboy's arguments have left the rest of military community speechless.

Who cares about stupid nuke-flying contest? You really take that so seriously and worked out an entire strategy?