Chinese Airforce Activities in South China Sea Revealed [Translated]

[ptldM3]

Mig-21 is NOT and will NEVER be equal to F-16. Kinematically it is an inferior aircraft, not to mention the small nose inlet limits the size of the PD radar you can place on it. It was designed as a high speed interceptor, hence the delta wing design. On the other hand, F-16 is optimized for sustained manoevures as subsonic speeds. Thanks to a powerful turbofan engine however, its performance at supersonic speeds exceed that of the Mig-21. In short, the F-16 is an entire generation ahead, actually two generations ahead.

The Indian Mig-21 uses the same radar as Israeli F-16's--EL/M-2032, those radars are also intergraded in the large random of upgraded F-4's. As for Mig-21 performance, it has a very fast role rate, climb rate, acceleration, and speed, the one draw back of the Mig-21 is that it bleeds excessive speed below 400 knots; however, at 500 knots and above it can sustain high G turns of 6+ G's.



The Mig-21 has over 200 air-to-air kills, mostly at the hands of mediocre pilots/air forces. Given that a Mig-21 is upgraded with modern avionics and equipped with modern long range missiles such as the R-77 it is a serious threat to any aircraft. Now factor in the Mig-21's positive attributes such as performance, rcs, size and you have a real winner. Just like all aircraft the Mig-21 has its drawbacks such as range and payload due to its role and size but other than that the aircraft is excellent and to this day continues to serve as a front line fighter in many air forces, that is a testimate of how well put together the aircraft is.

 

[HKSDU]

guys i really want to know how old he is``or are all the vietnamese like him extreemly ignorant and naive`!

The ones in Australia are pretty nationalistic, and they seem to be very arrogant. Went to Vietnam once food and culture were good, but the people ruined it for me.

 

[S10]

Great !! but i must say you guys are superior copy cats!! please keep your superior Brains$$t with you only. Take care!

There is nothing wrong with being inferior. Recognizing you're inferior is the first step to improvement. However, since you cannot do so, I expect you to always remain inferior.

EGO WILL CAUSE DESTRUCTION....

We got demolished in 1962, no wait......

 

[rcrmj]

The ones in Australia are pretty nationalistic, and they seem to be very arrogant. Went to Vietnamese once food and culture were good, but the people ruined it for me.

my relative told me the same thing, they have quite a few factories in vn, they said those people are very difficult to deal with the ways we normally deal with any other people```they seem to lack very basic idea of modern win-win business philosophy or basic managerial skills. and their view of the whole world is rather bizzare than arrogant``they told me, most vn people still believe they are the smartest and most glorious country in the world```just the fact 30 years ago american retreated from vn`

 

[S10]

No match, we never macht with Big China, but we will shoot you down like Us.craft, so, we've known mordern warfare , we have small AWACS , win or lose depend on Pilot's skill now, same like VN war, he have to face with power full opponent. Your pilots's skill surely worse than us, you have no change to win.

Is that why your Su-30 flights were completely jammed two weeks ago? Did I mention our J-10 locked on to your "mini-AWACS" more than dozen times? Go ahead, ask your defence ministry what happened. Don't take my word for it.

"叫板？！你说的莫非就是一个星期前越军升龙师的那几架悲催的苏-30被空2师的歼-10“大乱奸”那次？不好意思，连续被我们的飞机锁定十几次，搞到人家越南飞行员几乎丧失了信心，我看不出这叫“叫板”？叫她妈的越南式叫春还差不多！"

Remember to post that quote with your inquiry. I'm pretty certain they'll be interested in talking to you.

 

[Break the Silence]

There is nothing wrong with being inferior. Recognizing you're inferior is the first step to improvement. However, since you cannot do so, I expect you to always remain inferior.


We got demolished in 1962, no wait......

try it again...but dont brag again and again..
cARRY ON silly dude...I hope... your symptoms will not be spread throughout China.. and listen.. No one is inferior on this earth.. All have their own unique qualities.. But having thought of being superior will surely cause some bad effects..
P.S. I dont wish to start a new troll session here in this thread with you.. so again ..Carry on..

 

[S10]

try it again...but dont brag again and again..
cARRY ON silly dude...I hope... your symptoms will not be spread throughout China.. and listen.. No one is inferior on this earth.. All have their own unique qualities.. But having thought of being superior will surely cause some bad effects..
P.S. I dont wish to start a new troll session here in this thread with you.. so again ..Carry on..

China is inferior to United States in military capabilities. We know that and admit it. See that? Is it really so hard for you to admit you're inferior? I guess that's why the gap between China and India is growing bigger.

 

[rcrmj]

try it again...but dont brag again and again..
cARRY ON silly dude...I hope... your symptoms will not be spread throughout China.. and listen.. No one is inferior on this earth.. All have their own unique qualities.. But having thought of being superior will surely cause some bad effects..
P.S. I dont wish to start a new troll session here in this thread with you.. so again ..Carry on..

why taking it so serious when india is inferior in some aspects`

we are inferior to americans in terms of technology, innovation and social order. because we recognize our true position then we know how to improve ourselves. 30 years of china's econony and science miracle did not come from blinded ultra nationalism`

 

[Break the Silence]

China is inferior to United States in military capabilities. We know that and admit it. See that? Is it really so hard for you to admit you're inferior? I guess that's why the gap between China and India is growing bigger.

Listen, if you have gone through my earlier posts... I never criticize china of being ahead of India in many fronts.. But.. but.. What I mean to say is none of the country is unique and superior most in this world, All have their pros and cons in terms of competitions.. There are many fields , where India also termed as flag bearer .. But it doesnt mean, we should start behaving superior to others.. THERE IS ALWAYS A ROOM OF IMPROVEMENT FOR EVERYONE, EVEN FOR U.S. I was just trying to convey the message that one should not being egoistic about its achievement, otherwise, it can create a disaster..
p.s. this is the reply to both of your posts. i.e. S10 and rcmj!

 

[Viva_Viet]

Mig-21 is NOT and will NEVER be equal to F-16. Kinematically it is an inferior aircraft, not to mention the small nose inlet limits the size of the PD radar you can place on it. It was designed as a high speed interceptor, hence the delta wing design. On the other hand, F-16 is optimized for sustained manoevures as subsonic speeds. Thanks to a powerful turbofan engine however, its performance at supersonic speeds exceed that of the Mig-21. In short, the F-16 is an entire generation ahead, actually two generations ahead.

LOL at that pathetic attempts to say you can detect low observable targets at 800km. By the way, high resolution synthetic-aperture radar today can well distinguish between legitimate targets and decoys.

You could not match our ECM, and you couldn't afford the upgrade from Russia. Now you went to an inferior supplier. Congratulations.

1.Oki, Russian guy have the answer for Mig 21 upgraded already, any more question bro ??

2. For low flying targets we have radar Kasta-2E2 , but still not enough for 1 million square km sea territoy,

Kasta-2E2 còn quá ít chưa đủ để bao phủ một vùng biển rộng lớn với diện tích hơn 1 triệu km vuông.

Tác chi

 

[ptldM3]

Is that why your Su-30 flights were completely jammed two weeks ago? Did I mention our J-10 locked on to your "mini-AWACS" more than dozen times? Go ahead, ask your defence ministry what happened. Don't take my word for it.

"叫板？！你说的莫非就是一个星期前越军升龙师的那几架悲催的苏-30被空2师的歼-10“大乱奸”那次？不好意思，连续被我们的飞机锁定十几次，搞到人家越南飞行员几乎丧失了信心，我看不出这叫“叫板”？叫她妈的越南式叫春还差不多！"

Remember to post that quote with your inquiry. I'm pretty certain they'll be interested in talking to you.

Considering China also operates the SU-30 and knows the radar frequencies it's not impossible for China to jam Vietnamese Sukhois but how does China know they jammed the SU-30's? The SU-30 has a weapons system operator that tries to employ counter measures because of this it would not be easy. Also what exactly or supposedly jammed the SU-30 and from what range?

 

[Viva_Viet]

Is that why your Su-30 flights were completely jammed two weeks ago? Did I mention our J-10 locked on to your "mini-AWACS" more than dozen times? Go ahead, ask your defence ministry what happened. Don't take my word for it.

Remember to post that quote with your inquiry. I'm pretty certain they'll be interested in talking to you.

Sorry, I can not see Chinese language from my Laptop.

jammed two weeks ago ??is this the India SU-30 ??

our J-10 locked on to your "mini-AWACS" more than dozen times ?? can you send me link ??

 

[Viva_Viet]

my relative told me the same thing, they have quite a few factories in vn, they said those people are very difficult to deal with the ways we normally deal with any other people```they seem to lack very basic idea of modern win-win business philosophy or basic managerial skills. and their view of the whole world is rather bizzare than arrogant``they told me, most vn people still believe they are the smartest and most glorious country in the world```just the fact 30 years ago american retreated from vn`

1. Most of Vnese after lots of wars are low-educated, and they're farmer they have enough food to eat. but any one need money, so they work in factory also. btw: respect them, and they will respect you.If you understand they're low educated, it's easy to solve the problem.

2. US retreat or not doesn't important now, coz we wanna be friend with US, and they're helping us now

 

[S10]

1.Oki, Russian guy have the answer for Mig 21 upgraded already, any more question bro ??

2. For low flying targets we have radar Kasta-2E2 , but still not enough for 1 million square km sea territoy, Tác chi

If you feel your Mig-21 are sufficient against modern planes today, then I can only wish the rest of Vietnamese population thinks that way. It does not matter how many radar you have. If they are suppressed and destroyed during a conflict, they're as good as scrap metal. Think Iraqi and Serbian air defences.

Considering China also operates the SU-30 and knows the radar frequencies it's not impossible for China to jam Vietnamese Sukhois but how does China know they jammed the SU-30's? The SU-30 has a weapons system operator that tries to employ counter measures because of this it would not be easy. Also what exactly or supposedly jammed the SU-30 and from what range?

It was done by dedicated EW aircraft over an encounter in South China Sea two weeks ago. J-10 from 2nd Air Division repeatedly locked on to Vietnamese Su-30 flights, and outmanoevure them. It was a carefully planned operation to force Vietnamese to negotiating table according to the person who posted it (military liason with AVIC I). He further revealed that Vietnamese went contacted the Russians last week for upgrades to their ECM systems on their planes and ground radar. After finding the price tag to be too much, Vietnam is seeking Indian help instead.

Sorry, I can not see Chinese language from my Laptop.

jammed two weeks ago ??is this the India SU-30 ??

our J-10 locked on to your "mini-AWACS" more than dozen times ?? can you send me link ??

Your Su-30, not India. You don't have to believe it. After all, it might be pure propaganda like everything from China right?

I do encourage you to contact your Central Military Commission, ask they how their Su-30 pilots are feeling after the episode two weeks ago. Also, ask them about how much Russians are charging them for the ECCM suites. I am quite certain somebody from your government will knock on your door.

 

[Rechoice]

my relative told me the same thing, they have quite a few factories in vn, they said those people are very difficult to deal with the ways we normally deal with any other people```they seem to lack very basic idea of modern win-win business philosophy or basic managerial skills. and their view of the whole world is rather bizzare than arrogant``they told me, most vn people still believe they are the smartest and most glorious country in the world```just the fact 30 years ago american retreated from vn`

You must tell your relative to left Vietnam, as soon as possible.