inshalla,what is the new thing in this post??it was the routine process by these chinese, if alla is meherban tho gadda bangaya pehalvan.
BBC NEWS | Business | Kalashnikov upset by Indian 'copy'
Is it?
You mean Indians? Indian are shameless..
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inshalla,what is the new thing in this post??it was the routine process by these chinese, if alla is meherban tho gadda bangaya pehalvan.
ya.. if moderators know Hindi/Urdu, then true... but no google translate will be able to translate it into chinese pictograhic language.. hence they shouldn't be offended, if they can't understand it.
Then straight away ban you or delete yr post will save the trouble, right?
We can post in Chinese too but I think we let the moderator to handle you is the better solution.
help yourself ... nobody cares about your pictographic language.
this is india/pakistan forum .... you are foreigners, here.
we give a $hit to pictographic language forums.
... and anyway, we already had our pleasure .... this thread is anyway crap .. mods could delete the thread or a post.. i haven't got a prob.
But.. you can't enjoy our jokes, too. THAT is important !!!
So chinese got high IQ, and now they are using that high IQ for stealing others technology. What a BS. if chinese really has great IQ, they why china is dependant on russia for jet engines and arresters for aircraft carrier. because still you can't steal that tech. What is use of your high IQ? If you can make products by stealing technologies only.
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Chinese are the most du*b ppl on the earth. If they have such a high IQ, then how come they are still ruled by king?
ITS A LOT MORE THAN A ZERO SYMBOL
take a look around you. none of that would be there if it wasnt for our number system
Chinese aren't exactly ruled by a King. They call it Chairperson.
mod close this thread plz
Chinese are the most du*b ppl on the earth. If they have such a high IQ, then how come they are still ruled by king? They have absolutely zero rights. They cannot complain, they cannot protest, they cannot express there feelings.
Its like bird in golden cage.
Thanks God we invented zero long long back, when Photocopy machine was not invented. Otherwise, these chinese would have copied it too and would have presented to world with some fancy name, claiming it as there invention.
The Enneagram - History of the Decimal System
One of the problems in determining the origins of the enneagram is that the sequence of the pattern of the internal lines is based on the decimal division of 1 by 7 yielding the repeating decimal 0.142857.
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Shang Dynasty 1766-1122 BCE
Decimal place system (14th century BCE) - 2300 years later in Western civilization
History of Chinese Invention - The Decimal System of Number Representation
Decimal number system, also called HINDU-ARABIC, or ARABIC, base 10 system, in mathematics, positional numeral system employing 10 as the base and requiring 10 different numerals, the digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and a dot (decimal point).
A noteworthy characteristic of the Chinese system, and one that represented a substantial advantage over the Mediterranean systems, was its predilection for a decimal notation, as demonstrated by foot rulers dating back as far as the 6th century BC. An example of how the Chinese used the decimal system may be seen in an inscription from the thirteenth century BC, in which '547 days' is written 'Five hundred plus four decades plus seven of days'. The Chinese wrote with characters instead of an alphabet. When writing with a Western alphabet of more than nine letters, there is a temptation to go on with words like eleven. With Chinese characters, ten is ten-blank and eleven is ten-one (zero was left as a blank space: 405 is 'four blank five'), This was much easier than inventing a new character for each number (imagine having to memorize an enormous number of characters just to read the date!). Having a decimal system from the beginning was a big advantage in making mathematical advances. The first evidence of decimals in Europe is in a Spanish manuscript of 976 AD.
Reference
written by Robert K.G. Temple and published by Simon and Schuster, 1986
Currently out-of-print
Encyclopedia Britannica, 1999
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History of the Decimal System
The Arabic numeral system is considered one of the most significant developments in mathematics, and, ergo, several theories have been advanced about its origin. These theories include
the idea that it originated in China.
the idea that it was invented by Al-Khwarizmi.
the idea that it originated in the ancient Middle East and that the Arabic numeral system was simply an westward transmission of the Indian numeral system.
Although these theories contain varying amounts of truth, each is exaggerated in its thesis. Nevertheless, very few historians debate the Arabic numeral system was influenced by Indian mathematics.
Somewhat speculatively, the origin of a base-10 positional number system used in India can be traced to China. Because the Chinese Hua Ma system (see Chinese numerals) is also a positional base-10 system, Hau Ma numerals—or some numeral system similar to it—may have been the inspiration for the base-10 positional numeral system that evolved in India. This hypothesis is made stronger by the fact that years from 400 to 700, during which a positional base-10 system emerged in India, were also the period during which the number of Buddhist pilgrims traveling between China and India peaked. What is certain is that by the time of Bhasakara I (i.e., the seventh century AD) a base 10 numeral system with 9 glyphs was being used in India. This numeral system had reached the Middle East by 670. Significantly, however, this numeral system lacked a zero digit. Muslim mathematicians working in what is now Iraq were familiar with the Babylonian numeral system, which used the zero digit between nonzero digits (although not after nonzero digits). Furthermore, by 874, the latest Muslim mathematicians were using a base 10 positional numeral system, with the zero digit used both between and after nonzero digits. Mathematicians in India took the same step at essentially the same time (by 876 at the latest). The two groups apparently derived analogous numeral systems independently. In the early twelfth century AD, Arab mathematicians in North Africa extended the Arabic numeral system to include decimals.
Fibonacci, an Italian mathematician who had lived in North Africa, introduced the Arabic numeral system to Europe and promoted it with his book Liber Abaci, which was published in 1202. It should be noted that in the Muslim World—until modern times—the Arabic numeral system was used only by mathematicians. Muslim scientists used the Babylonian numeral system, and merchants used a numeral system similar to the Greek numeral system and the Hebrew numeral system. Therefore, it was not until Fibonacci that the Arabic numeral system was used by a large population.
*ttp://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_enneagram_dec.htm
A Mathematical Place for Zero: It is recognized the world-over that the Chinese took the first step in developing the concept of zero, necessary for carrying out even the most simple of mathematical computations. As early as the 4th century BCE, the Chinese started leaving a blank space for the zero symbol, used in conjunction with the traditional Chinese counting board and the smaller abacus; and evidence exists attributing to the Chinese the use of the actual "0" before 686 AD.
*ttp://www.inventions.org/culture/asian/chinese.html
A Brief History of Zero and Indian Numerals
A Brief History of Zero and Indian Numerals | The Brussels Journal
The Chinese had a multiplicative system with the base 10, probably derived from the Chinese counting board. By the fourth century BC the counting board, a checker board with rows and columns, had come into use there. Numbers were represented by little rods made from bamboo or ivory. The abacus was introduced in China around the fourteenth century AD. Somewhere around or before the year 600 AD (the exact place and date remains uncertain) Indians dropped symbols for numbers higher than 9 and began to use symbols for 1 through 9 in our familiar place-value arrangement. Authors James E. McClellan and Harold Dorn speculate whether “The appearance of zero within the context of Indian mathematics may possibly be due to specifically Indian religio-philosophical notions of ‘nothingness.’” This is controversial but worth considering. Ideas have practical consequences, and it sounds plausible that the concept of “nothingness” would have greater cultural resonance in a country influenced by Hinduism and Buddhism than in Christian-dominated Europe, for example.
The question nevertheless remains why Indians dropped their own multiplicative system and introduced the place-value system, including a symbol for zero. We currently don’t know for sure. Victor J. Katz elaborates in his fine A History of Mathematic, Second Edition:
“It has been suggested, however, that the true origins of the system in India may be found in the Chinese counting board. Counting boards were portable. Certainly, Chinese traders who visited India brought them along. In fact, since southeast Asia is the border between Hindu culture and Chinese influence, it may well have been the area in which the interchange took place. Perhaps what happened was that the Indians were impressed with the idea of using only nine symbols, but they took for their symbols the ones they had already been using. They then improved the Chinese system of counting rods by using exactly the same symbols for each place value rather than alternating two types of symbols in the various places. And because they needed to be able to write numbers in some form, rather than just have them on the counting board, they were forced to use a symbol, the dot and later the circle, to represent the blank column of the counting board. If this theory is correct, it is somewhat ironic that Indian scientists then returned the favor and brought this new system back to China early in the eighth century.”
A decimal place-value system for integers definitely existed in India by the eighth century AD, possibly earlier. Although decimal fractions were used in China, in India there is no early evidence of their use. It was the Muslims who “completed the Indian written decimal place-value system by introducing these decimal fractions.”
Since the 4th century BC, counting rods were used in China for decimal calculation s including the use of blank spaces. Chinese mathematicians understood negative numbers and zero, some mathematicians indicated the for the latter with wúrù (無入 "no entry"), kōng (空 "empty") and the frame-like symbol 口/囗, until Gautama Siddha introduced the symbol 0 in the 8th century.[18][19]
Prior to that, The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art, composed in the 1st century AD, had already explicitly stated "[when subtracting] subtract same signed numbers, add differently signed numbers, subtract a positive number from zero to make a negative number, and subtract a negative number from zero to make a positive number."[20]
*ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_%28number%29
Götterdämmerung;2905576 said:Do you say this out of sheer ignorance or are you just simply stupid? You know there are 4x more Chinese tourists travelling overseas than there are Indian. It's rather your hundreds of millions poor who are caged in the thousands of rotten cages we call slums in the developed world.
Götterdämmerung;2905576 said:Do you say this out of sheer ignorance or are you just simply stupid? You know there are 4x more Chinese tourists travelling overseas than there are Indian. It's rather your hundreds of millions poor who are caged in the thousands of rotten cages we call slums in the developed world.
stop your bs..the concept of zero was well understood in other part of the world, india was not alone comming up with that concept. phuck off! lol
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lol Indians, when they humiliated they just lose consciousness, speaking and thinking comprehension and even lower their already low IQ``lolFine...but at least they are getting food to eat and bed to sleep. The govt. is trying to provide them better education and employment, rather than killing them in concentration camps and gas chambers.
Fine...but at least they are getting food to eat and bed to sleep. The govt. is trying to provide them better education and employment, rather than killing them in concentration camps and gas chambers.
The richest immigrants in any country are invariably have Indians in top echelons .... and that comes with large volumes and the per capita incomes. Find the list of top ranking CEOs with globally renowned corporations. And then go figure where poor chinese stand: the coolies and factory labour.
A one off example from recent news:
Googles Top Executive Nikesh Arora Takes $8 Million Cash In Lieu Of Stocks | Link Newspaper
Probably you have most experience of rotten cages and slums, going by the quality of posts you have. Your putting up a German name is a disgrace to Germany. Germany has a valid reason to hold a grudge for misusing it's good name.
Oh yeah, please feel free to go back to "counting rods", instead of Hindu numeral system.
China is free to have it's own laws prevailing with their own country, including the Newton's laws of motion. Please keep amending it to your satisfaction.
Götterdämmerung;2905929 said:Don't talk for Germany, since you are not one of us and you don't know how a truely democratic society works. We Germans value pluralistic opinions and we are proud of it.