Chinese ace software competition: But why Indian coders are getting hired?

[chathrapathi]

besides winning rote memorization competition, what else are you good at?

I think you guys are good at rote memorization techniques. That's the reason you win these competetions but no where seen in software business.

Don’t go overboard praising China’s schools
Explanations for American schools lagging behind the rest of the world are many. One of the most prevalent themes for politicians, business executives and pundits scolding our kids, parents and teachers is fear of Asia — particularly China, Korea, Japan and Singapore — because of their world-leading test scores.
I ignore those who say we will someday be at war with China. I have spent most of my life studying that country. Its culture and history are much less warlike than ours. Happily, like us, the Chinese love making money. Our battle to sell more stuff to each other will inevitably help both economies. Our concern about their educational superiority is another matter. Many American scholars and reformers point out correctly that the Chinese — and those other countries above — do better in part because they value schooling more, train their teachers more carefully and are more likely to believe that any children can learn if they work at it. Anything we can do to adopt those values is good.
But the experts often don’t mention the mindless, rote, competitive streak in Asian education systems that would horrify us if it were imported here. Folks who think American schools are too absorbed in memorization and testing should compare us with our friendly competitors across the Pacific before ranting about annual state tests, the SAT and the ACT. Those exam systems are fun party games compared with what goes on in China these days, as a recent piece by three scholars in Education Week makes clear.

 

[master_13]

Haha priceless coming from an oriental!

lol, i know you love memorizing your master's language, priceless. hahahah

I think you guys are good at rote memorization techniques. That's the reason you win these competetions but no where seen in software business.

Don’t go overboard praising China’s schools
Explanations for American schools lagging behind the rest of the world are many. One of the most prevalent themes for politicians, business executives and pundits scolding our kids, parents and teachers is fear of Asia — particularly China, Korea, Japan and Singapore — because of their world-leading test scores.
I ignore those who say we will someday be at war with China. I have spent most of my life studying that country. Its culture and history are much less warlike than ours. Happily, like us, the Chinese love making money. Our battle to sell more stuff to each other will inevitably help both economies. Our concern about their educational superiority is another matter. Many American scholars and reformers point out correctly that the Chinese — and those other countries above — do better in part because they value schooling more, train their teachers more carefully and are more likely to believe that any children can learn if they work at it. Anything we can do to adopt those values is good.
But the experts often don’t mention the mindless, rote, competitive streak in Asian education systems that would horrify us if it were imported here. Folks who think American schools are too absorbed in memorization and testing should compare us with our friendly competitors across the Pacific before ranting about annual state tests, the SAT and the ACT. Those exam systems are fun party games compared with what goes on in China these days, as a recent piece by three scholars in Education Week makes clear.

lol, lol, chinese software industry is leaps and bounds ahead of Indian's. you just can't compete at the top tier level, period. ok, are you trying to say not only we are better in international intellectual competitions, we also beat you in memorization. It's ok, if you say so.

 

[chathrapathi]

lol, lol, chinese software industry is leaps and bounds ahead of Indian's. you just can't compete at the top tier level, period. ok, are you trying to say not only we are better in international intellectual competitions, we also beat you in memorization. It's ok, if you say so.

Tell that to the thread started. He thinks Indians are leaps and bounds ahead of others in Software industry. Chinese education is a joke...Only interested in memorization techniques and mugging....Now don't tell us about ancient paper folding to prove that you are good in software...lol

 

[master_13]

Tell that to the thread started. He thinks Indians are leaps and bounds ahead of others in Software industry. Chinese education is a joke...Only interested in memorization techniques and mugging....Now don't tell us about ancient paper folding to prove that you are good in software...lol

tell who? I'm telling you that your education is utterly crap, if chinese education is a joke, yours is non-existent. Chinese start companies that are competing aggressively with american companies, indian are content serving american masters. who cares about Miscrosoft CEO, when americans are even dreading the day chinese will overtake america, be it major companies or others. of course, no american will ever worry such things about India, you can never be a global player capable competing with America.

chinese software IT industry is leaps and bounds bigger, better than indians. No single indian company can come even close to alibaba, baidu or tencent in tech or market value, let alone thousands of other smaller chinese software companies.

 

[chathrapathi]

Chinese start companies that are competing aggressively with american companies, indian are content serving american masters.

LOL...you compare yourself with American companies and tell that Indians are serving Americans....go and play video games kid...
You do everything to copy western society with you sub conscious mind....Its not your problem alone...its your genetic disorder to serve western society...

 

[kurup]

One another of Chinese feel good threads ..... These Chinese and their braggings .

 

[Centrist]

When i was an undergraduate student, many of my TA were Indians.

They gave me a lot of feedback for my projects, and generously graded my assignments and projects.

I am a guy with conscience, and i don't wanna be heartless and insult the Indian IT people.

I don't care if the Indian coders failed to beat their Chinese counterpart in a competitive match, but they are still some top tier programmers in the world, and i don't think any PDF members are legitimate to insult them, since none of us are in their league, we are just a bunch of amateurs.

One of the few decent n mature posts in this messed up thread.

 

[Kaniska]

What service do India provide apart from back office call centres?

You can google and figure it out,,,

The day Indian government declares PISA as an entrance examination for Engineering or Medical, there won't be any Indian getting into college.


it is because indian fails miserably at every one of these competitions, who sponsor these competitions in india when you fail miserably at almost every single one of these?

Whatever feels good to you ..you can assume it...I am not here to convince you...

 

[flamer84]

Btw, Bangladeshi guy's (Ishraq Huda) ranked 1 vs Romanian guy @ 20.
@flamer84 so.. were you not bragging about your roma-nian superiority over BDs as "evidenced by international olympiads" in some other thread? It's clearly the other way around.

Lol,-1st he represents Australia(probably raised and educated there) and both of them are Gold medalists.

-2nd,Romania has 1 gold medal,2 silver medals and 1 bronze medals,Bangladesh has 0(ZERO) medals

As per Romania vs Bangladesh overall in IOI:

Romania:

Perfomance in IOI

• Gold medals: 27
• Silver medals: 40
• Bronze medals: 24

Bangladesh:

Perfomance in IOI

• Gold medals: 0
• Silver medals: 1
• Bronze medals: 3

LOL

Only this year Romania won more medals than Bangladesh in its entire history at IOI and you're so stupid that you bragg about it and tagg me in this thread

 

[Maira La]

Lol,-1st he represents Australia(probably raised and educated there) and both of them are Gold medalists.

-2nd,Romania has 1 gold medal,2 silver medals and 1 bronze medals,Bangladesh has 0(ZERO) medals

As per Romania vs Bangladesh overall in IOI:

Romania:

Perfomance in IOI

• Gold medals: 27
• Silver medals: 40
• Bronze medals: 24

Bangladesh:

Perfomance in IOI

• Gold medals: 0
• Silver medals: 1
• Bronze medals: 3

LOL

Only this year Romania won more medals than Bangladesh in its entire history at IOI and you're so stupid that you bragg about it and tagg me in this thread

Romania being the backwater country it is, all roma-nians probably try their luck at the IOI with hopes of finding a good job in UK, Germany etc. afterwards.
If all top BD universities sent their teams like the roma-nians do, there wouldn't be any roma-nians in the list. Lol.

 

[flamer84]

Romania being the backwater country it is, all roma-nians probably try their luck at the IOI with hopes of finding a good job in UK, Germany etc. afterwards.
If all top BD universities sent their teams like the roma-nians do, there wouldn't be any roma-nians in the list. Lol.

Yes i'm sure that Bangladesh holds back and doesn't send students from their "Top Bengali universities" so Romania can win some medals.

Yes,all of our IT people leave..........................NOT

Romania is the leader in Europe, and sixth in the world, in terms of the number of certified IT specialists, with density rates per 1,000 inhabitants greater than in the US or Russia. There are about 64,000 specialists in the IT sector. Approximately 5,000 of the 30,000 engineers graduating every year in Romania are trained in ICT.[13] Microsoft acquired Romanian Antivirus Technology in 2003. According to Microsoft, Romania has a clear potential in information technology, an area in which Romanian students, researchers and entrepreneurs excel.[14] Its western-oriented culture and the high educational degree of its youth bring Romania forward as a huge potential market (the second largest software producer in Eastern Europe). In terms of IT outsourcing services Romania is ranked in the third place worldwide successfully challenging India.[15]

I know you're butthurt and not particularly clever but try to bring some facts when opening your mouth instead of throwing nonsense,i can ridicule Bangladesh all day and throw insults but we'd be going nowhere.And really ? Calling Romania backward coming from Bangladesh ?


BTW,Bangladesh doesn't send its students to the Math Olympiad either so Romania can grab a few medals,huh ?


Performance at the IMO

Bangladesh:
Gold medals: 0. Silver medals: 2. Bronze medals: 10. Honourable mentions: 20

Romania:
Gold medals: 74. Silver medals: 129. Bronze medals: 96. Honourable mentions:


Well,if it's not Informatics or Maths ,maybe it's Chemistry:

2014 World Chemistry Olympiad results:

Bangladesh:0 medals

Romania :1 gold,3 silver medals


That didn't work out,well,if it isn't maths,informatics,chemistry....maybe Biology.

2014 results

Romania-"only" 4 Bronze medals....weak


Bangladesh...well,you've guessed it by now (LMAO) 0(zero) medals

 

[Maira La]

Yes i'm sure that Bangladesh holds back and doesn't send students from their "Top Bengali universities" so Romania can win some medals.

Yes,all of our IT people leave..........................NOT

Romania is the leader in Europe, and sixth in the world, in terms of the number of certified IT specialists, with density rates per 1,000 inhabitants greater than in the US or Russia. There are about 64,000 specialists in the IT sector. Approximately 5,000 of the 30,000 engineers graduating every year in Romania are trained in ICT.[13] Microsoft acquired Romanian Antivirus Technology in 2003. According to Microsoft, Romania has a clear potential in information technology, an area in which Romanian students, researchers and entrepreneurs excel.[14] Its western-oriented culture and the high educational degree of its youth bring Romania forward as a huge potential market (the second largest software producer in Eastern Europe). In terms of IT outsourcing services Romania is ranked in the third place worldwide successfully challenging India.[15]

I know you're butthurt and not particularly clever but try to bring some facts when opening your mouth instead of throwing nonsense,i can ridicule Bangladesh all day and throw insults but we'd be going nowhere.And really ? Calling Romania backward coming from Bangladesh ?

You've just backed up my words, "clever" (in your language, băiat prost!) roma-nian. As I said in post [HASHTAG]#236[/HASHTAG], all roma-nians seem to try their luck in the IT field, because you have no resources to speak of. Western companies "recognize" you and your no-name tech, because they need cheap slaves. It's not like you have a choice though. Either go hungry or go IT.

 

[flamer84]

You've just backed up my words, "clever" roma-nian. As I said in post [HASHTAG]#236[/HASHTAG], all roma-nians seem to try their luck in the IT field, because you have no resources to speak of. Western companies "recognize" you and your no-name tech, because they need cheap slaves. It's not like you have a choice though. Either go hungry or go IT.

So,according to you it's better to be a gigantic Nike/Adidas sweat shop like Bangladesh than qualify in a high end industry wich belongs to the future ? You're truly a nugget of wisdom .

 

[EagleEyes]

Theres more to it. There was a time when we faced something called 'Brain drain'. Now we have a trend where it has been reversed. Many of those who went to the West and became successful there in their own fields are coming back to India and bringing back their years of experience with them.

I would disagree. Most would only come back after making enough.

 

[nForce]

I would disagree. Most would only come back after making enough.

That's even better. They are bringing their own money as well, while we needed only the brains. I myself made enough money to get two apartments for myself. Flipkart is a good example. I'll share some statistics shortly.