Chinas PLA electronic warfare aircraft and Type 55 destroyers were unable to track Nancy Pelosis aircraft due to US carrier group EW

[kankan326]

It is a Chinese-owned paper

Do you think Chinese owned paper could have articles like these?

 

[PakFactor]

Do you think Chinese owned paper could have articles like these?
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Their opinion pieces it's very typical to have articles like this.

 

[etylo]

The fake news by SCMP is debunked by the following Chinese military expert in the following English subtitled video:

SCMP with mostly non-chinese writers Is known to be a lackey to the west that kiss up to its most white readers.

 

[khansaheeb]

Chinese and the US forces were locked in a reconnaissance and electronic warfare tussle in the lead-up to and after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan, according to military sources and defence analysts.

But not all of it was successful, according to sources close to the Chinese military.

State broadcaster CCTV reported the Chinese military used naval and air forces in multiple locations to conduct "full tracking and surveillance" against the US Air Force transport aircraft flying Pelosi and her delegation from Kuala Lumpur to Taipei on August 2.

The tracking was aimed at "deterrence", the report quoted PLA Major General Meng Xiangqing, from the PLA National Defence University, as saying.

However a source said the People's Liberation Army's tracking efforts - which involved jets and Type 055 destroyers - failed.

"The PLA deployed some electronic warfare aircraft such as the J-16D and warships to try to locate Pelosi's aircraft, but were not successful," the source said.

"Almost all the PLA electronic warfare equipment couldn't work properly because they were all jammed by electronic interference by the American aircraft strike group sent by the Pentagon to escort her."

On the flight, Pelosi's aircraft took an unusually circuitous route by heading southeast towards the Indonesian part of Borneo, then turning north to fly along the eastern part of the Philippines.

He Yuan Ming, an independent airpower analyst, said it was not surprising that the Chinese vessels did not detect the flight.

"Even if the Type 055 (destroyer's) radar is said to be 500km (310 miles), its effective range in the real world would be much less," He said.

"Couple this with the vast operating area as well as the Type 055's relative newness both in terms of its hardware (capabilities) and software (crew), there should be little surprise that the PLA (naval) cruiser could not locate (Pelosi's plane)."

Pelosi's trip was followed by a series of unprecedented PLA war games encircling Taiwan.

On the second day of the exercises, the US sent at least seven reconnaissance and early warning aircraft to waters near Taiwan, according to the Beijing-based South China Sea Strategic Situation Probing Initiative.

The deployment included a RC-135V and RC-135S for missile surveillance, three P-8A maritime anti-submarine planes, three E-3G spy jets and one U-2S high-altitude monitor plane, supported by six KC-135 refueling aircraft.

Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of Canada-based Kanwa Asian Defence, said that with its technology it was very likely that the American navy realised that the PLA had deployed submarines to waters off Taiwan, despite silence on both sides over the involvement of the vessels in the war games.

Chang also said it was likely the US played a role behind the scenes in Japan and Taiwan.

During the drills, Taiwanese authorities said the PLA sent 11 ballistic missiles into waters to the north, south and east of the island.

Japan said five of those missiles fell within its exclusive economic zone, an area that China does not recognise.

"Beijing declined to reveal how many ballistic missiles it had launched, while Taipei and Tokyo's announcement could be seen as a warning to the mainland that they are able to detect and track the PLA missiles, which is part of the electronic warfare tactics," Chang said.

He said the missiles would have been tracked by the Leshan radar station in Hsinchu county on Taiwan.

Operating since 2013, the system can detect a missile launched from as far away as 5,000km and track projectiles in motion in great detail, even from a distance of 2,000km - a range that covers mainland China and the entire South China Sea.

"The long-range early warning radar system on Leshan was established under the assistance of the US, with some American experts still stationed in the radar centre," Chang said.

The first source said electronic warfare between the PLA and US military went back to the 1995-96 Taiwan Strait crisis when American forces jammed almost all the PLA's military radar systems during its missile tests.

"That's the key reason that prompted China to develop its own BeiDou Satellite Navigation System," the source said, adding that both sides were keen to size up the other's strength in the area.

"Both China and the US wanted to examine each other's electronic warfare capabilities this time. The PLA is especially keen to make sure its technology is strong enough to cope with a possible Taiwan contingency."

How Pelosi’s Taiwan trip set off a new wave of US-China electronic warfare

PLA eyes in the sky and at sea sought to track the aircraft carrying the US House speaker.

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Is that before PLA jamming or after. Once radar frequencies are known they can easily be jammed.

"Operating since 2013, the system can detect a missile launched from as far away as 5,000km and track projectiles in motion in great detail, even from a distance of 2,000km - a range that covers mainland China and the entire South China Sea."

 

[Lava820]

This is quite the embarrassment for China, especially from their supposed top line forces. If you can’t track Pelosis plane your definitely not tracking US stealth fighters and bombers.

@Black Tornado
The CCP is all about image not actual function. The PLAN has been studying the US navy for years, however copying does not produce the same results and the PLAN has a long way to go before it can even think about matching the US navy
If China really wants to compete with the US army, it's going to need more than 6 aircraft carrier battle groups compared to US's 11. And with the air force, the US does lead in terms of drones, strategic bombers and their stealth jets, the F-35, with loads of variants being successful in the UK, like the Lightning and F-35b. China's J-20 stealth jets have faced complications and delays. And even if China does increase it's naval assets, the US is also upgrading at the same time with it's new Columbia class nuclear subs, which is their largest one yet. So, my point is China is always going to be several stages behind the US in terms of air and naval superiority

 

[beijingwalker]

So, my point is China is always going to be several stages behind the US in terms of air and naval superiority

LOl, licking boots again? then how about India? several stages ahead of China?

 

[S10]

I hope Americans continue to believe these stories from anonymous sources in the future. As for the not able to track Pelosi's plane part, the ADS-B transponder was on at all times. I could track her C-40C with my laptop that evening.

"The PLA deployed some electronic warfare aircraft such as the J-16D and warships to try to locate Pelosi's aircraft, but were not successful," the source said.

J-16D is an EW platform, not AEW. Its primary mission is SEAD, not searching and tracking air targets. At least make it believable when cooking up a story.

 

[Lava820]

LOl, licking boots again? then how about India? several stages ahead of China?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1461960934075764736

@beijingwalker HAL ALH MKIII @etylo

 

[etylo]

@Black Tornado
The CCP is all about image not actual function. The PLAN has been studying the US navy for years, however copying does not produce the same results and the PLAN has a long way to go before it can even think about matching the US navy
If China really wants to compete with the US army, it's going to need more than 6 aircraft carrier battle groups compared to US's 11. And with the air force, the US does lead in terms of drones, strategic bombers and their stealth jets, the F-35, with loads of variants being successful in the UK, like the Lightning and F-35b. China's J-20 stealth jets have faced complications and delays. And even if China does increase it's naval assets, the US is also upgrading at the same time with it's new Columbia class nuclear subs, which is their largest one yet. So, my point is China is always going to be several stages behind the US in terms of air and naval superiority

Coming from famously known ignorant foul mouth indians, who after 30 years cant get LCA fighter to work properly, and after 20years cant get the foreign designed and supplied critical parts of the aircraft carrier vikrant to work properly, any credibility in your words ?

Chinese military are all for shows right ? Why dont you supa pawa indians try another 1962 war and another 2020 Galwan clash with china, see what will happen ?

 

[beijingwalker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1461960934075764736

Lol, I know India is always ahead of China

 

[Farhan Bohra]

LOl, licking boots again? then how about India? several stages ahead of China?

English-speaking Chinese, living in US/Europe are surprised that US is ahead. Hmmmmm.

 

[Lava820]

Coming from famously known ignorant foul mouth indians, who after 30 years cant get LCA fighter to work properly, and after 20years cant get the foreign designed and supplied critical parts of the aircraft carrier vikrant to work properly, any credibility in your words ?

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@etylo @Cheepek @Black Tornado
The flight characteristics is something that is continuously improving because the major cause of delay was also the biggest advantage, because the west denied us access to whole algorithms which has led DRDO to develop its own flight control computers here in India itself. It's all ours only. That means every hour an LCA flies, more data is collected and hence the software is improved. This has already lead to an improvement in Angle of Attack by 1.5 degrees. The Computers have been improved to take control of the aircraft and bring it back into flight envelope.... So hopefully Mig21 like accidents won't happen during its operational service
It's a remarkable aircraft and has the best flying record ever in the world
There have been over 5,000 developmental flights without a single accident whatsoever

 

[beijingwalker]

English-speaking Chinese, living in US/Europe are surprised that US is ahead. Hmmmmm.

China is a developing countries and is still doing the catch up job, no one is surprised that US in many aspects are still ahead, will Indians be surprised if someone tells them that China is ahead of India?

 

[MH.Yang]

English-speaking Chinese, living in US/Europe are surprised that US is ahead. Hmmmmm.

With all due respect, Chinese people who have experienced Verizon 5G in the USA will be surprised by the poor 5g level in the USA. This also shows the real strength of Americans from a side.

 

[alimobin memon]

This only will make chinese systems strong. If this is true than that means china has something to improve on and they are not locked in a place rather in motion. Good for china the more weaknesses they know the more they will improve.

China should take this as challenge and opportunity.