China’s new stealth fighter makes Britain’s ‘new’ F35s look antique by comparison

[大汉奸柳传志]

If the Brits hadn't got conned by the Americans and scrapped their indigenous fifth gen program back in the 90s, they could end up with something much better than those F-35s today. Now it seems they can only take a part in the Turkish 5gen program.. offering what’s left of their expertise...

Truly a sad story.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Why are you calling him stupid?

If the Brits hadn't got conned by the Americans and scrapped their indigenous fifth gen program back in the 90s, they could end up with something much better than those F-35s today. Now it seems they can only take a part in the Turkish 5gen program.. offering what’s left of their expertise...

Truly a sad story.

we were involved in choosing the x-35 over the x-32 the f35 are for the navy not the airforce

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

we were involved in choosing the x-35 over the x-32 the f35 are for the navy not the airforce

RAF will be inducting the F-35b as well

 

[Blue Marlin]

RAF will be inducting the F-35b as well

mainly the navy which explains this..........

 

[Ultima Thule]

That means JF-17 will be getting the new engine as well? @Windjammer

No How can we install WS-15 on JFT but WS13E for JFT not WS-15

 

[Ultima Thule]

CHINA has unveiled its most advanced stealth fighter jet ever amid growing tensions with the US and President Donald Trump.
And the J-20 aircraft are so technologically advanced, they make Britain’s new US-built F35s look antique in comparison.

The futuristic Chinese aircraft have longer range, more internal fuel capacity and a larger weapons capacity.

And this latest military addition is believed to be equipped with unique WS-15 turbo engines capable of reaching supersonic speeds.

The F-35's top speed is 1199mph – The J-20s is a hefty 1,305mph.

However when fully operational the F-35 may offer significant advantage in terms of manoeuvrability as questions hang over the Chinese plane’s air-to-air capability.

The F-35B can also land vertically – meaning it can be used in many more theatres of operations.

Chinese plane-spotters first caught a glimpse of the J-20 in 2010, before the public got its first viewing of the craft at the Zhuhai airshow in November 2016.

Visitors were reportedly not permitted to view the aircraft on the ground, sparking speculation the aircraft was falling behind production schedule.

Now the fighter jets have reportedly joined the arsenal of the People’s Liberation Army’s airforce as part of a high-priority military revamp.


But only a few of the stealth fighters have entered service so far – with more planned by the end of the year.

The new addition comes after the Chinese PLA released a statement saying that war with the US is a "practical reality".

Tensions have continued to escalate between the US and Beijing over North Korea and the South China Sea.


On Monday, Beijing announced its defence budget would increase by seven per cent, roughly a quarter of what Washington spends annually.

And defence sources close to the PLA reveal the unveiling of the J-20 was also meant as a warning to Japan and South Korea.

One source said: “It’s urgent for China to show off its achievements as soon as possible.”

Britain is being forced to pour millions of pounds of new funds into the troubled F-35 stealth fighter programme being developed in America and considered a vital part of the UK’s future defences.

The F-35 - built by the US in partnership with countries including the UK – is intended to be a cornerstone of UK defences for decades to come, flying off two new aircraft carriers.

But the aircraft - the costliest weapon ever developed by the Pentagon – has been plagued with difficulties. One expert even claimed the F-35’s laser guided missiles could only hit stationary objects.

Other software problems have seen the project costs soar from $233bn in 2001 to around $379bn.

Donald Trump has even instructed his own military to look at alternatives such as Boeing’s F-18 Super Hornet.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/777827/China-new-stealth-fighter-J20-war-America-Donald-Trump

Bro J-20 is F-22 for China, J-20's main mission is Air superiority and to attack ISR, Tanker, AWACS, 5th gen jet like F-22, PAK-FA and F-15 and Advanced Su series of jets, whereas J-31 is tactical multirole mission jet facing F-35, furture russian LMFS, F-16, F-18 and MIG-29 series of jets

 

[royalharris]

Incoming "if j-20 is so good why are they buying su-35" comments.

make the world feel relax

 

[Ultima Thule]

Incoming "if j-20 is so good why are they buying su-35" comments.

to put some money in the pocket of Poor Russians

 

[Blue Marlin]

the express is a retarded version of the daily mail making up stupid articles so people read them to remain relevant.
let me know when the j20 flys with chinese engines and not with soviet engines. oh and the f35 is american not british. but we do make parts of them over here.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

the express is a retarded version of the daily mail making up stupid articles so people read them to remain relevant.
let me know when the j20 flys with chinese engines and not with soviet engines. oh and the f35 is american not british. but we do make parts of them over here.

Did you even read the article?

Do you think Xian WS-15 engines are Soviet Engines?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Did you even read the article?

Do you think Xian WS-15 engines are Soviet Engines?

Still confusing sir some says that it is using AL-31FN, some says its using Ws-10 and you says its WS-15 who is right sir i am really confused

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Still confusing sir some says that it is using AL-31FN, some says its using Ws-10 and you says its WS-15 who is right sir i am really confused

I already posted the most recent source from our SCMP, from 1-2 days ago:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...ighter-flies-fighting-forces-says-state-media

China’s latest stealth fighter, the J-20, is serving in the People’s Liberation Army air force, according to state media.

The report said the new aircraft had joined joint drills with troops, rocket forces and the navy.

A source close to the PLA said the J-20s were all equipped with home-made WS-15 engines, but because the engine had not entered mass production, only a few J-20s were available for service.

“There are still a series of technical problems that need to be tackled [on the J-20], including the reliability of its WS-15 engines, [and the plane’s] control system, stealth coat and hull materials and infrared sensor,” said the source, who requested anonymity.

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If you have any other recent sources, I will be glad to read them. By recent, I mean after the induction of the J-20 that happened in the last few days.

 

[oprih]

Good, China should continue developing and aim at achieving the best in every field.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Did you even read the article?

Do you think Xian WS-15 engines are Soviet Engines?

has the ws-15 been fitted on the j20? no.
now has the al-31 been fitted to the j20? yes
the al-31 are soviet. whilst the ws-15 is chinese. as is every 'ws' series engine

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

has the ws-15 been fitted on the j20? no.
now has the al-31 been fitted to the j20? yes
the al-31 are soviet. whilst the ws-15 is chinese. as is every 'ws' series engine

Do you have any source for that claim since the J-20 was inducted a few days ago?

I provided a link from our SCMP quoting a PLA source from 1-2 days ago, saying that the recently inducted J-20 are all fitted with WS-15 engines.

Now where is your source?