China’s military worries that its only-child recruits are “wimps”

[Mighty Caty]

The psychology of war is not based on any family relation, that much is for sure. If that had to be true, then there are other personal aspect that one can relate to the will to fight. Item suchs as maritial status, whether or not if a soldier have children. If being an only son is one of the contributed factor, then we would also need to put the reason i quote into consideration.

As the Imperaial Jpanese general Kuribayashi once say "The duty to protect our family make us lay down our life and fight, however, the exact thought of the family make it hard for us to laid down our life"

A person told to go to war by choice. Their personal background is not in the equation. A soldier will fight according to the situation. Sometime you are forced to fight, sometime you are reacted to fight. But above all, the person's own initiative.

There are also only son's and daughter's in any armed force in the world. They are not as "wimpy" as any other soldiers. The prospect to fight and killed is what you would have accepted when you enlist yourselves in that situation, you will fight like everybody else.

Actually, i would not be intimated by the question of whether the chinese soldier are wimpy because they came from an only child family. I would have pay more attention for the current chinese generation if they were indeed to fight a war. There always casualty in war. However, it would be worse off when you sustain casualty from a multiple child family than a single child family. The primary problem would be the recurperation of population if that only child dies. That does not end with them as you also ended a family lineages as well (That child dies then there are no next generation) and if this would be parallel for mulitple factors. The casualty would not just be the 10,000 or 50,000 or more soldier killed, but you are talking about multiple family.
Not to mention the impact of losing the mobilised generation, the population that's in their prime. I would more worry about that then them being wimpy and flakey.

 

[BoQ77]

If only pigs can fly...

This is the last post. I don't want to drive the topic into another issue.

1. Do you know why China doesn't use airforce during 1979 conflict ? They worried about the Vietnam airforce and air-defense.
2. Insulting means you agree we are true ...( just quote )
3. If what you want is peace. Nothing to worry about ( you don't know that true fact so you made the 1979 invasion, you always doubt about friends ). but what you want is war, your neighbor is ready to fight a war with you.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This is the last post. I don't want to drive the topic into another issue.

1. Do you know why China doesn't use airforce during 1979 conflict ? They worried about the Vietnam airforce and air-defense.
2. Insulting means you agree we are true ...( just quote )
3. If what you want is peace. Nothing to worry about ( you don't know that true fact so you made the 1979 invasion, you always doubt about friends ). but what you want is war, your neighbor is ready to fight a war with you.

Your current air force and air defense are nothing but jokes to us.

 

[BoQ77]

Let show it.

You have Su30MK2 , we have Su30MK2 too.
You have S300PMU, we have S300PMU too.

And we are the one who shot down B52 and F111A by both old model airforce and airdefense.
We are not inexperience in modern air combats.

To drive back to the topic:

Because the post-war policy of China to their soldiers too bad, so veterans from Sino-Viet conflict cried out for the disappointed feeling. That could be proved by quoting from China forum as popular. So how you persuade the 1-child soldier, their parents, grandparents would be treated well after his death or wound ? Especially there're many loss in war

 

[JSCh]

The PLA has a long history of fighting war with great odds.

Countless of other excuses has been found to account for PLA ability to beat the odds. But China knows why.
Morales has always been highly considered/valued in PLA. Because China has been militarily weak, morale/spirit is often the only few thing remained that could be trusted to defend China.

If anything, learning about the millions that has risk life and limb against impossible odd would keep China soldier spirit up. If Chinese are quitter just because the going get tough, then China would have never existed. Nobody else in the world has that same weight of history/tradition.

Only child maybe pampered, but they are not pamper by the PLA after they joined. 26% could not pass the test and stay, but the 74% remain in the PLA is what the enemy has to face.

 

[BoQ77]

It's different between you defensed yourself and you invaded others.
The soldiers are not the robot, their family members parents, grandparents ... would protest the illegal war.
A simple calculation to know how many protesters may have for PLA force if you carry out a meaningless war.
7x or 28x ?

 

[Genesis]

It's different between you defensed yourself and you invaded others.
The soldiers are not the robot, their family members parents, grandparents ... would protest the illegal war.
A simple calculation to know how many protesters may have for PLA force if you carry out a meaningless war.
7x or 28x ?

I think a war will be popular for China, like Germany after WW1, many Chinese feel like we been wronged by the West. Many would like to see our rise. Many would support the war against the US, and especially Japan. That's the atmosphere I got from China.

Obviously I'm not talking as if people want war, but if it's forced upon us by the West, because of their continued refusal to show respect where respect is due, then taking the fight to them would be a popular choice.

It's also many Chinese's dream to see the century of humiliation finally erased, and that will end with a victory in a war against a great power.

 

[BoQ77]

I think a war will be popular for China, like Germany after WW1, many Chinese feel like we been wronged by the West. Many would like to see our rise. Many would support the war against the US, and especially Japan. That's the atmosphere I got from China.

Obviously I'm not talking as if people want war, but if it's forced upon us by the West, because of their continued refusal to show respect where respect is due, then taking the fight to them would be a popular choice.

It's also many Chinese's dream to see the century of humiliation finally erased, and that will end with a victory in a war against a great power.

Is Senkaku a new issue to China ? To me that's the very old story,
WW2 passed over a half of a century. Nowaday, No developed country want a war right in their country.

You could always bring the case to an arbitration, if you keep asking your territory.

Or you plan a military solution ( that's very old model nowaday ) and make the war spread out to ruin all of your achivement of revolution and modernization ...

Japan in 1945 is the lesson of wrong solution,

I think a war will be popular for China, like Germany after WW1, many Chinese feel like we been wronged by the West. Many would like to see our rise. Many would support the war against the US, and especially Japan. That's the atmosphere I got from China.

Obviously I'm not talking as if people want war, but if it's forced upon us by the West, because of their continued refusal to show respect where respect is due, then taking the fight to them would be a popular choice.

It's also many Chinese's dream to see the century of humiliation finally erased, and that will end with a victory in a war against a great power.

If that's popular feeling to have an invasion war. Maybe it has the reason your people are in peace for so long.
Believe me,your people didn't expect such a long war, longer than WW2 as we suffered a long war lasts several decades, as a small country we are ready for protecting our country but appreciate the peace if we could reach it without weapon. Means we are ready for both defensive war and peace.

That 's also the reason, we fought hard against China invasion to our country in 1979 BUT let you leave in safe after you claim finished. We always do that way, from our ancient time.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It's different between you defensed yourself and you invaded others.
The soldiers are not the robot, their family members parents, grandparents ... would protest the illegal war.
A simple calculation to know how many protesters may have for PLA force if you carry out a meaningless war.
7x or 28x ?

 

[NiceGuy]

I think a war will be popular for China, like Germany after WW1, many Chinese feel like we been wronged by the West. Many would like to see our rise. Many would support the war against the US, and especially Japan. That's the atmosphere I got from China.

Obviously I'm not talking as if people want war, but if it's forced upon us by the West, because of their continued refusal to show respect where respect is due, then taking the fight to them would be a popular choice.

It's also many Chinese's dream to see the century of humiliation finally erased, and that will end with a victory in a war against a great power.

U can try to raise to the first world to get the respect .Dont just sit duck in third world and hope people will praise u.

anyway: China army is full of corruption, I dont think Chinese soldiers willing to sacrifice their precious lives just for making those corrupted generals happy .

 

[BoQ77]

Let show it.

You have Su30MK2 , we have Su30MK2 too.
You have S300PMU, we have S300PMU too.

And we are the one who shot down B52 and F111A by both old model airforce and airdefense.
We are not inexperience in modern air combats.

To drive back to the topic:

Because the post-war policy of China to their soldiers too bad, so veterans from Sino-Viet conflict cried out for the disappointed feeling. That could be proved by quoting from China forum as popular. So how you persuade the 1-child soldier, their parents, grandparents would be treated well after his death or wound ? Especially there're many loss in war

Comb souvenirs by remaining of B52s and F111A shot down by Vietnam air force and air defense in Dec 1972.
The price so cheap : around 25$ for two

 

[Viet]

I am a fan of the PLA, but only the girls. they are so beautiful. Look at their body, faces and legs.
PLA men suck.

 

[Genesis]

U can try to raise to the first world to get the respect .Dont just sit duck in third world and hope people will praise u.

anyway: China army is full of corruption, I dont think Chinese soldiers willing to sacrifice their precious lives just for making those corrupted generals happy .

We are the second biggest economy and with in two years we will be the biggest in PPP terms and within a decade in nominal terms. We will also become semi developed within a decade and be more or less on even ground with Russia in terms of per capita GDP.

If doesn't deserve respect than nobody other than the US deserves it.


As to corruption, don't kid yourself, the institution of armed forces is corrupt, due to the nature of it there is no way of policing it. It is corrupt everywhere. China, US, Vietnam, all of it.

The Chinese soldiers are not fighting for the generals, the generals have no say in if they fight, they only have a say in how. Even then they can't decide who long and how much to fight.

The Chinese soldiers and people fight for China.

BTW Vietnam is still single party undemocratic country, why you guys keep forgetting that is beyond me. You guys should know how single party works and not like the Westerners who doesn't get it and thinks our single party is the same as Egypt single party or Africa or Cuba.

 

[NiceGuy]

We are the second biggest economy and with in two years we will be the biggest in PPP terms and within a decade in nominal terms. We will also become semi developed within a decade and be more or less on even ground with Russia in terms of per capita GDP.

If doesn't deserve respect than nobody other than the US deserves it.

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Okay, then try to get to the first world and then come back and ask for the respect after that.

If doesn't deserve respect than nobody other than the US deserves it.

As to corruption, don't kid yourself, the institution of armed forces is corrupt, due to the nature of it there is no way of policing it. It is corrupt everywhere. China, US, Vietnam, all of it.

The Chinese soldiers are not fighting for the generals, the generals have no say in if they fight, they only have a say in how. Even then they can't decide who long and how much to fight.

The Chinese soldiers and people fight for China.

Last war of China against VN in 1979 showed that PLA suffered poor discipline, low morale, combat ineffectiveness with high casualties and China still can not change its weakness until now bcz ur corrupted generals seem dont care if PLA can fight effective or not.

Ur army will get crushed even by VN if war happen again , so pls dont dream that u can get US's respect by fighting against them now. In 1979 u r pushed back in few weeks, so US can defeated ur army just in few days now.

BTW Vietnam is still single party undemocratic country, why you guys keep forgetting that is beyond me. You guys should know how single party works and not like the Westerners who doesn't get it and thinks our single party is the same as Egypt single party or Africa or Cuba.

Its changing in VN politics now, our human right has improved alot

UNHRC Approved Vietnam Human Rights Report
08/02/2014

National Times- The report was approved at the 18th session of the Human Rights Council UPR working group on February 7 in Geneva.

The report stressed the achievements Vietnam has recorded in respecting, protecting and promoting human rights as well as the implementation of proposals at the first cycle.

Existing challenges and limitations during the process, plus the Vietnamese Government’s priorities in human rights development, were also mentioned in the report.
UNHRC Approved Vietnam Human Rights Report - Báo điện tử của Bộ Văn Hóa Thể Thao và Du Lịch

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I am a fan of the PLA, but only the girls. they are so beautiful. Look at their body, faces and legs.
PLA men suck.

Your women would fall in love with the PLA men.