China's memory chip investment threatens Korea

[Beast]

This has to be our strategic objective. With NE Asian integeration global economic balance can finally return to Asia.

With this integeration a true Asian century can begin. Otherwise, all of asia will remain a sweat shop.
We need all of Asia to progress and develop and join the Community of Prosperity through OBOR.

This the keep to having peace under the heaven. The Dragon is wise and begnign.

We must not be distracted by trouble makers and use wisdom to intergrate all of Asia and Eurasia with the kingdom under heaven. World needs the rebirth of Chinese Civilisation.

China is too big and she can go alone. China is just like a EU itself.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

In the international stage, countries become your "friend" if you are stronger than them in economy and military. They become your enemy when you are weak.

In today's world, being dominant in technology in all fields is a must if you want to be perceive as number one. All the advance weapons and advance medical equipment require a great deal of technology.

Your quite right, Jlaw. Totally agree with you. When China was made weak through opium and all her wealth went away...Chinese Civilisation went to deep sleep.

But the leadership, despite making mistakes, has been working diligentely to restore order. China must keep following the path development through science and technology to gain comprehensive national strength. We are not there yet. However, we will get there.

There is not doubt.

 

[Beast]

Article does not mention some critical things:

• Where will the semiconductor process come from.
• Who will design the memories?
• How get around blocking patents?

Are you doubting us?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway_TaihuLight

The sourgraped american claim China is no way to produce a domestic made chip for their supercomputer after the intel block and thinking they are smart. The american are absolutely wrong. We made a super computer fastest in the world and even the processor is design and made in China.

Your doubt about this news is totally irrelevant or maybe out of jealousy?

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

China is too big and she can go alone. China is just like a EU itself.

Yes, Beast, your are correct in your statement. With the development of the Western Chinese region, China will be double in size in the GDP from that of EU.

Please, remember China has till now reached a quarter of her potential. When the Dragon reaches the full potential there will harmony under the heavens. This can not be doubted.

 

[Jlaw]

Your quite right, Jlaw. Totally agree with you. When China was made weak through opium and all her wealth went away...Chinese Civilisation went to deep sleep.

But the leadership, despite making mistakes, has been working diligentely to restore order. China must keep following the path development through science and technology to gain comprehensive national strength. We are not there yet. However, we will get there.

There is not doubt.

To be frank, I don't think China can regain her former glory like having 40% of world GDP unless the leaders get rid of corruption. Corruption, not in bribery but also guan xi. Putting your useless siblings in high places need to stop. The current hanjian from CPC need to be eliminated. If these two things do not show improvement, China will not break the mental barrier.

China is too big and she can go alone. China is just like a EU itself.

in population and land mass, much bigger than EU combined.

 

[Viet]

SK and Japan should join hands with China to create the most innovatie and efficient industrial block in the world. After all China is the fountainhead of their culture and language.

This divide in NE Asia has caused too much damage and has not benefited Asia at all.

It time that they join the Community of Prosperity and work closely with China.

They need China to be on their side for their own economic growth.

My friend your words sound somewhat familiar to me: east Asia Union, China as master, East Asia prosperity, kick out evil America.

Hmm...

You remember me of someone.

hm...

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

To be frank, I don't think China can regain her former glory like having 40% of world GDP unless the leaders get rid of corruption. Corruption, not in bribery but also guan xi. Putting your useless siblings in high places need to stop. The current hanjian from CPC need to be eliminated. If these two things do not show improvement, China will not break the mental barrier.


in population and land mass, much bigger than EU combined.

I agree with every word you say. Cancern of corruption has been curse of China. I, for one, sincerely hope that this three generations' curse can be broken forever.

Technology can and must help in here as well. But most important thing is to break the culture of corruption.

My friend your words sound somewhat familiar to me: east Asia Union, China as master, East Asia prosperity, kick out evil America.

Hmm...

You remember me of someone.

hm...

Dear Viet, I respect your right to have your opinions.. if we can not engage in a constructive discussion then let us not engage in any discussion.

I find the hatred for China and Chinese Civilisation extremely tiring.

All the best with development of your good country.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Are you doubting us?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunway_TaihuLight

The sourgraped american claim China is no way to produce a domestic made chip for their supercomputer after the intel block and thinking they are smart. The american are absolutely wrong. We made a super computer fastest in the world and even the processor is design and made in China.

Your doubt about this news is totally irrelevant or maybe out of jealousy?

Designing digital logic is a different problem than to design a cost effective memory chip.
You can get away with using an older process.
Designing for an older process will not get You anywhere in the Memory business.
You must also consider that products containing state subsidized electronics might get slapped with custom fees,
so maybe they can only be used for internally used products, which might be OK.

 

[TaiShang]

But seriously bro, are you still dreaming about the former Nihonjin's pipe dream about East Asian Sphere of Cooperation? You know that's just BS. As far as I know in East Asian history there can only be true peace in the region when China's military and economy trump Korea and Japan.

That's definitely what I mean when I am talking about a community. A China-centered community; a modern version of tribute system in East Asia.

Tribute system would be a more technical affair, surely, and that would rest on China's military and industrial prowess. I agree that, if China is weak, there could be no peace in East Asia. And China cannot trust anybody near or far to act on historical benevolence or feelings of community.

I remember, even Nihonjin had the conceptualization of a China-centered economic sphere. I do not think of, as well as argue about, a political sphere, but I would still argue that an economic cooperation scheme would be good for China and region.

That's a practical, peaceful way to reduce US influence.

 

[AndrewJin]

Yes, Beast, your are correct in your statement. With the development of the Western Chinese region, China will be double in size in the GDP from that of EU.

Please, remember China has till now reached a quarter of her potential. When the Dragon reaches the full potential there will harmony under the heavens. This can not be doubted.

Central China alone now is only a 2 trillion dollars economy.
We will definitely reach 5 trillion in a couple of years.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Central China alone now is only a 2 trillion dollars economy.
We will definitely reach 5 trillion in a couple of years.

Absolutely. With Western China development in full swing..it is only the question of time that Chinese GDP will double itself.

Through science and technology and industrious of the Chinese people world will have a a robust engine of growth for a very long time.

Even today if we calculate the economy of Taiwan and HK together with the economic output of ethnic Chinese owned enterprises...Chinese economy is the biggest in the world.

But let us not celeberate just yet. First the Dragon must become a developed country with Chinese Characteristic and have a haromnoious society, then we will celeberate.

 

[greenwood]

Put together, the three companies will invest 270 billion yuan.

Didn't know memory chip need this mass investment.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

That's definitely what I mean when I am talking about a community. A China-centered community; a modern version of tribute system in East Asia.

Tribute system would be a more technical affair, surely, and that would rest on China's military and industrial prowess. I agree that, if China is weak, there could be no peace in East Asia. And China cannot trust anybody near or far to act on historical benevolence or feelings of community.

I remember, even Nihonjin had the conceptualization of a China-centered economic sphere. I do not think of, as well as argue about, a political sphere, but I would still argue that an economic cooperation scheme would be good for China and region.

That's a practical, peaceful way to reduce US influence.

TaiShang, what you say makes total sense. Hence the need to create harmony under heavens. The Middle Kingdom is the centre of the circle... peace and prosperity for everyone.

Time has come to integerate the supply chains in a logical and benefitial manner.
A free Asia is in China's national interest.

But how can there be free Asia if the Asians don't want to be free?

The first priority must be the NE Asian integeration through M&A. The process has already started on a smaller scale. It needs government support.

That's definitely what I mean when I am talking about a community. A China-centered community; a modern version of tribute system in East Asia.

Tribute system would be a more technical affair, surely, and that would rest on China's military and industrial prowess. I agree that, if China is weak, there could be no peace in East Asia. And China cannot trust anybody near or far to act on historical benevolence or feelings of community.

I remember, even Nihonjin had the conceptualization of a China-centered economic sphere. I do not think of, as well as argue about, a political sphere, but I would still argue that an economic cooperation scheme would be good for China and region.

That's a practical, peaceful way to reduce US influence.

TaiShang, what you say makes total sense. Hence the need to create harmony under heavens. The Middle Kingdom is the centre of the circle... peace and prosperity for everyone.

Time has come to integerate the supply chains in a logical and benefitial manner.
A free Asia is in China's national interest.

But how can there be free Asia if the Asians don't want to be free?

The first priority must be the NE Asian integeration through M&A. The process has already started on a smaller scale. It needs government support.

 

[AndrewJin]

Absolutely. With Western China development in full swing..it is only the question of time that Chinese GDP will double itself.

Through science and technology and industrious of the Chinese people world will have a a robust engine of growth for a very long time.

Even today if we calculate the economy of Taiwan and HK together with the economic output of ethnic Chinese owned enterprises...Chinese economy is the biggest in the world.

But let us not celeberate just yet. First the Dragon must become a developed country with Chinese Characteristic and have a haromnoious society, then we will celeberate.

Western China is also a 2 trillion dollar economy with a growth rate much higher than the national level!

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Western China is also a 2 trillion dollar economy with a growth rate much higher than the national level!

Yes, I know. But there is such huge development potential there that the growth cylce will last for decades.
Great times ahead of us.