China's 294 megatons of thermonuclear deterrence

[Martian2]

India only has low-yield atomic weapons. China can do what it likes.

China must never allow expansionist and imperialist India to develop thermonuclear weapons. It was only decades after independence that India annexed Sikkim (in 1975) and South Tibet (in 1986). The British have gone home and left their former Hong Kong colony. The Portuguese have also gone home and left their former colony in Macau.

We will eventually kick Indian imperialists out of Sikkim and South Tibet and send you packing.

Currently, India only possesses pathetically weak 4 to 25 kiloton atomic weapons. In comparison to a single Chinese 3.3 megaton thermonuclear weapon (which is over 100 times more powerful), Indian atomic weapons are like little firecrackers. However, at an unknown point in the future, I believe India will eventually develop a crude thermonuclear device. It could be 25, 50, or 75 years in the future.

Regardless of the exact time of India's development of a crude thermonuclear bomb, I have already formulated China's strategic neutron-bomb response, military control of Indian airfields, and survey and collection of the raw ores (e.g. uranium, thorium, and existing plutonium) to produce Indian fissile material.

A future Indian Nehru must never possess the capability to truly threaten China.

U.S. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory concluded the Indian thermonuclear device was a failure.

Reference (from Federation of American Scientists): Nuclear Weapons - India Nuclear Forces

 

[j20blackdragon]

Nice.

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[ChineseTiger1986]

India only has low-yield atomic weapons. China can do what it likes.

China must never allow expansionist and imperialist India to develop thermonuclear weapons. It was only decades after independence that India annexed Sikkim (in 1975) and South Tibet (in 1986). The British have gone home and left their former Hong Kong colony. The Portuguese have also gone home and left their former colony in Macau.

We will eventually kick Indian imperialists out of Sikkim and South Tibet and send you packing.

Currently, India only possesses pathetically weak 4 to 25 kiloton atomic weapons. In comparison to a single Chinese 3.3 megaton thermonuclear weapon (which is over 100 times more powerful), Indian atomic weapons are like little firecrackers. However, at an unknown point in the future, I believe India will eventually develop a crude thermonuclear device. It could be 25, 50, or 75 years in the future.

Regardless of the exact time of India's development of a crude thermonuclear bomb, I have already formulated China's strategic neutron-bomb response, military control of Indian airfields, and survey and collection of the raw ores (e.g. uranium, thorium, and existing plutonium) to produce Indian fissile material.

A future Indian Nehru must never possess the capability to truly threaten China.

U.S. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory concluded the Indian thermonuclear device was a failure.

Reference (from Federation of American Scientists): Nuclear Weapons - India Nuclear Forces

China's largest nuke is around 5mt, but most of China's modern nukes are between 1-1000kt from tactic to strategic.

The most reliable modern nuclear arsenal is not about the biggest yield of a single H-bomb, but it is about the reliability of the nuclear deterrence against enemy's pre-emptive strike.

 

[DARKY]

India only has low-yield atomic weapons. China can do what it likes.

China must never allow expansionist and imperialist India to develop thermonuclear weapons. It was only decades after independence that India annexed Sikkim (in 1975) and South Tibet (in 1986). The British have gone home and left their former Hong Kong colony. The Portuguese have also gone home and left their former colony in Macau.

We will eventually kick Indian imperialists out of Sikkim and South Tibet and send you packing.

Currently, India only possesses pathetically weak 4 to 25 kiloton atomic weapons. In comparison to a single Chinese 3.3 megaton thermonuclear weapon (which is over 100 times more powerful), Indian atomic weapons are like little firecrackers. However, at an unknown point in the future, I believe India will eventually develop a crude thermonuclear device. It could be 25, 50, or 75 years in the future.

Regardless of the exact time of India's development of a crude thermonuclear bomb, I have already formulated China's strategic neutron-bomb response, military control of Indian airfields, and survey and collection of the raw ores (e.g. uranium, thorium, and existing plutonium) to produce Indian fissile material.

A future Indian Nehru must never possess the capability to truly threaten China.

U.S. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory concluded the Indian thermonuclear device was a failure.

Reference (from Federation of American Scientists): Nuclear Weapons - India Nuclear Forces

How come the some US blogs know more about Indian weapons than India.. If you go by the same blog then.. all the nuclear sub which China has made and will be making is 20 years behind the old Russian subs of the 70s era.

China’s Noisy Nuclear Submarines » FAS Strategic Security Blog

About the Nuclear program of India... here a good read...

Tritium from Power Plants gives India an H-bomb capability

And you CCP government has become so incompetent and weak that they surrendered Sikkim to India... yes boy... they did it and now they'll surrender Southern Tibet and then Tibet and then whole of China as per your logics...whole China will be gone in 75 years... What will happen to all those bombs and megaton nukes then... may be we can use it for celebrating the new year in China.

Sikkim is part of India, concedes Chinese envoy - Times Of India

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

How come the some US blogs know more about Indian weapons than India.. If you go by the same blog then.. all the nuclear sub which China has made and will be making is 20 years behind the old Russian subs of the 70s era.

China’s Noisy Nuclear Submarines » FAS Strategic Security Blog

About the Nuclear program of India... here a good read...

Tritium from Power Plants gives India an H-bomb capability

And you CCP government has become so incompetent and weak that they surrendered Sikkim to India... yes boy... they did it and now they'll surrender Southern Tibet and then Tibet and then whole of China as per your logics...whole China will be gone in 75 years... What will happen to all those bombs and megaton nukes then... may be we can use it for celebrating the new year in China.

Sikkim is part of India, concedes Chinese envoy - Times Of India

Too much senses from you, aren't it?

 

[DARKY]

Too much senses from you, aren't it?

Talk about this from your Martin boy... he needs it...

 

[Martian2]

Only Clever Chinese can build atomic and thermonuclear weapons with abacus calculations

Any other country besides China would have been stopped cold in its nuclear weapons program due to a lack of computing power. Not so with China. An abacus is sufficient to calculate the data needed to design and successfully explode a 22-kiloton atomic bomb in 1964 and a 3.3-megaton thermonuclear bomb in 1967.

IQ Abacus Math and Language School - News

"The ancient calculator has also played an important role in China's scientific research. When China developed its first nuclear bomb more than 30 years ago, thousands of data were calculated with the abacus."

Here is a video of the 22-kiloton Chinese atomic explosion in 1964.

[HD 1080P] CHINA'S FIRST NUCLEAR WEAPONS TEST @ THE "596" TEST - YouTube

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Here is a video of the 3.3-megaton Chinese thermonuclear explosion in 1967.

3.3-MEGATON HYDROGEN BOMB - YouTube

[Note: Thank you to TheMiddlePath for the abacus citation.]

 

[Martian2]

China has almost as much proven recoverable uranium as the U.S.

China has practically the same amount of uranium as the U.S.

This means China can build as many thermonuclear weapons as the U.S (e.g. fission trigger and plutonium transmuted from uranium).

With Nuclear Energy, China Chooses Dependence Over Independence (Part II of II) « Energy in Asia

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By the way, the first Chinese thermonuclear bomb (with 3.3-megaton yield) had a different design than the American and Russian (layer cake) hydrogen bombs.

Thermonuclear weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The People's Republic of China detonated its first H-Bomb using a Yu–Deng design June 17, 1967 ("Test No. 6"), a mere 32 months after detonating its first fission weapon (the shortest fission-to-fusion development in history), with a yield of 3.31 Mt.

The Yu–Deng design is different from the Teller–Ulam design. It doesn't use X-ray reflector, but refraction lens to achieve similar effect."

 

[j20blackdragon]

China has almost as much proven recoverable uranium as the U.S.

China has practically the same amount of uranium as the U.S.

This means China can build as many thermonuclear weapons as the U.S (e.g. fission trigger and plutonium transmuted from uranium).

With Nuclear Energy, China Chooses Dependence Over Independence (Part II of II) « Energy in Asia

There's one more important piece of information that we should take away from this.

Kazakhstan is a landlocked country that is located right next to China.

 

[WS-10 Engine]

I'm not worried about India's tiny nuclear arsenal hitting china, I'm worried these clowns will detonate their warheads on themselves because of severe corruption.

Indian military is such a 2nd rate rag tag military as is common with all 3rd world countries, I won't be surprised if they nuke themselves through sheer incompetence.

 

[Speeder 2]

I'm not worried about India's tiny nuclear arsenal hitting china, I'm worried these clowns will detonate their warheads on themselves because of severe corruption.

Indian military is such a 2nd rate rag tag military as is common with all 3rd world countries,

I won't be surprised if they nuke themselves through sheer incompetence.

First of all, I must admit that I LOVE the word "Megaton". It sounds like some fancy nicknames from Transformers II. awesome!

Kudos to Martians 2 for his discovery for this magic word. I’d advice Chinese Defence Ministry Spokesman take "Megaton" as his middle name, for it's the only music that India would love to hear surely.

Secondly, on your scenario that India would probably nuke itself out of sheer incompetence, it’s not a speculation though, because DRTROLL (in diplomatic language some call it DRDO) has announced to the world that they would only test Agni V 4 or 5 times more before putting it into service. So on top of world renouned Hindu Efficiency or the lack thereof the question here is not WILL India nuke itself but HOW India nuke itself more appropriately.

While only God knows what standard of "Hindu accuracy & reliability " these 4 or 5 additional tests suppose to prove, or disapprove, in comparison to 100s to 1000s tests Big Boys have done in similar scenarios, one thing is certain though that India’s primitive nuke warhead tech alone would indicate that India’s nuking itself be pretty much akin to the way those suicide bombers would have done by bundling several suitcases of dubious quality on top of the museum piece they callAgni V, “remote” controlled by a third-rate 80 Rupee mobile phone. This is how India would do it.

 

[Broccoli]

Article from 2009.

Subcritical Testing at Lop Nor

I am off to Cambridge for less than 24 hours to participate in a workshop entitled, “Getting to Zero: US and Chinese Perspectives on Near Term Cooperative Steps to a World Free of Nuclear Weapons.”

I’ve been spending a lot of time thinking about China’s efforts in terms of stockpile stewardship, remanufacture, modernization, what-have-you.

The United States and Russia are the only two countries that admit to conducting so-called “subcritical” nuclear tests — tests that “involve chemical high explosives and fissile materials in configurations and quantities such that no self-sustaining nuclear fission chain reaction can result. In these experiments, the chemical high explosives are used to generate high pressures that are applied to the fissile materials.”

China probably does, too.

Rest of the article is here.
Jeffrey Lewis • Subcritical Testing at Lop Nor

 

[Broccoli]

every time india tests their missile they always mentioning blowing beijing and other chinese cities. their new super duper missile is nickname 'china-killer'..
stupid people are unpredictable and you can't understand why they do what they do. chinese should very be afraid. not kidding.

Indian media is not very mature when it comes to these matters, they should be less warmongering when they talk about nuclear weapons. Even during the cold war no one called ICBM's "Soviet killer" or "America killer".

Agni V's warhead is said to weight 1500kg's (Indian media claim) and it's yield is 200-250kt... not very advanced. Certainly not something to brag about.

DF-31's warhead weights under 500kg's and has a yield of 300-800kt.
http://cryptome.org/jya/cndocs-gertz.htm

Needless to say that Rus and US warheads have even better yield-to-weight ratios.

 

[DARKY]

Indian media is not very mature when it comes to these matters, they should be less warmongering when they talk about nuclear weapons. Even during the cold war no one called ICBM's "Soviet killer" or "America killer".

Agni V's warhead is said to weight 1500kg's (Indian media claim) and it's yield is 200-250kt... not very advanced. Certainly not something to brag about.

DF-31's warhead weights under 500kg's and has a yield of 300-800kt.
Secret Reports on Chinese Ballistic Missiles

Needless to say that Rus and US warheads have even better yield-to-weight ratios.

1500Kg is the weight of payload used in the test.

There is no 1500Kg warhead in Indian arsenal... Agni V have capability to reach 1000+ Km If its payload were to be reduced upto 500-800kg as is the case with DF-31A.

Warheads to be used on Agni V weights 270kg and there would be atleast 5 such warheads(more depending on target deployment area) having a yield of 200KT each... along with decoys.

Currently a new warhead with a yeild of 450KT has been designed to be used on SLBM version of Agni V which would have a range of over 6000km and would carry 3 such warheads.

 

[UKBengali]

1500Kg is the weight of payload used in the test.

There is no 1500Kg warhead in Indian arsenal... Agni V have capability to reach 1000+ Km If its payload were to be reduced upto 500-800kg as is the case with DF-31A.

Warheads to be used on Agni V weights 270kg and there would be atleast 5 such warheads(more depending on target deployment area) having a yield of 200KT each... along with decoys.

Currently a new warhead with a yeild of 450KT has been designed to be used on SLBM version of Agni V which would have a range of over 6000km and would carry 3 such warheads.

Any proof these warheads exist?