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China will build up to 42 Units Type 055 large destroyer

No! It is not! Even if we wanna project our power, foreign base is not very necessory too.

Just see what the USA suffered, every year 800 billions dollars just vanished. More than half of them are used for foreign bases, that made them lack of money to get new equipments. And those local people hate those intruders, made American soldiers easy to attack.

Just pay a visit to USA, you will see their infrastructure is really old. While they burn their money on killing foreign people, making more enemies. We do bussiness in everywhere, build better railways.

We don't have that much to burn. Pakistan people can take care of their country, if they need help they will ask.


So for you, China's Djibouti military base is an absolute mistake? !
In escort in the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean, the Chinese Navy needs to continue to suffer from supply difficulties. Navy officers and men need to continue to stay in India for long periods of time. ?

Fun boy!
China’s military bases are too few, not too many. China does not need to build 500 or even 1,000 military bases like the United States. However, in order to maintain world peace and resist US hegemony, China’s establishment of 20 to 30 military bases worldwide is not only necessary but absolutely needed.

Each small and medium-sized country also does not want US troops to dominate the world. Instead, they hopes that other countries, including China, can balance US hegemony and thus can obtain the best benefits.

No! It is not! Even if we wanna project our power, foreign base is not very necessory too.

Just see what the USA suffered, every year 800 billions dollars just vanished. More than half of them are used for foreign bases, that made them lack of money to get new equipments. And those local people hate those intruders, made American soldiers easy to attack.

Just pay a visit to USA, you will see their infrastructure is really old. While they burn their money on killing foreign people, making more enemies. We do bussiness in everywhere, build better railways.

We don't have that much to burn. Pakistan people can take care of their country, if they need help they will ask.
You have not yet answered my question. The Djibouti military base has solved the issue of refueling and personnel refitting for the convoy in the Gulf of Aden of China fleet. But the Djibouti military base is a wrong decision for China according to you?!.

Pakistan has already sided with China which the USA is fully aware of and Pakistan cannot retract on that, this leaves India as a like-able ally for USA. The chances of war between India and China are very very less, a border skirmish is another thing. China is developed and India is developing, if they go to war, they will lose decades of progress which they can't afford.

The Type-55 Destroyer brings on table a very powerful offensive weapon for Pakistan. One of these ships with a formation of 2-3 frigates and other small ships can give a headache to enemy in terms of deployment of enemy ships and the Indian Navy planning structure to tackle PN will need to be changed drastically. 3-4 of these in PN will give a necessary AD cover as well as missile launching platform for targets on sea and land.
You guys can also establish an military base in tibet against india in estern tibet,if you want!
Under such circumstances, China established a naval and air force base in Gwadar and Pakistan established an army and air force base in eastern Tibet. I feel that there are no problems. The sovereignty of both sides has not been violated.
In addition, China can also pay 10 million U.S. dollars annually to Pakistan as a alliance fee.
A naval and air force base in Gwadar will lead to Pakistan being colonized? ? ?
In your eyes, you take Pakistan too weak??

Do not forget that Pakistan is a Chinese brother who possesses nuclear weapons.
 
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So for you, China's Djibouti military base is an absolute mistake? !
In escort in the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean, the Chinese Navy needs to continue to suffer from supply difficulties. Navy officers and men need to continue to stay in India for long periods of time. ?

Fun boy!
China’s military bases are too few, not too many. China does not need to build 500 or even 1,000 military bases like the United States. However, in order to maintain world peace and resist US hegemony, China’s establishment of 20 to 30 military bases worldwide is not only necessary but absolutely needed.

Each small and medium-sized country also does not want US troops to dominate the world. Instead, they hopes that other countries, including China, can balance US hegemony and thus can obtain the best benefits.


You have not yet answered my question. The Djibouti military base has solved the issue of refueling and personnel refitting for the convoy in the Gulf of Aden of China fleet. But the Djibouti military base is a wrong decision for China according to you?!.


You guys can also establish an military base in tibet against india in estern tibet,if you want!
Under such circumstances, China established a naval and air force base in Gwadar and Pakistan established an army and air force base in eastern Tibet. I feel that there are no problems. The sovereignty of both sides has not been violated.
In addition, China can also pay 10 million U.S. dollars annually to Pakistan as a alliance fee.
A naval and air force base in Gwadar will lead to Pakistan being colonized? ? ?
In your eyes, you take Pakistan too weak??

Do not forget that Pakistan is a Chinese brother who possesses nuclear weapons.

Djibouti base is a very careful move. First it's a supply base, not a military base like Guam. Second the Chinese supply base in Djibouti is small compare to other foreign bases there. And most importantly we don't rent so many bases all over the world.

About 300 billion dollars are spent directly and indirectly every year to maintain oversea bases by USA. About twice of our total military budget. We got benefit by not act like USA, and you just wanna jump in that trap?

Pakistan people will do their bussiness build their country. And they are doing this very well for now. An additional PLAN base is not necessory.

Not everyone in Pakistan like China, some of them are willing to act by shooting Chinese people or hijack them. What will you suggest if a bus full of Chinese soldiers has been bombed near the foreign base?
 
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Djibouti base is a very careful move. First it's a supply base, not a military base like Guam. Second the Chinese supply base in Djibouti is small compare to other foreign bases there. And most importantly we don't rent so many bases all over the world.

About 300 billion dollars are spent directly and indirectly every year to maintain oversea bases by USA. About twice of our total military budget. We got benefit by not act like USA, and you just wanna jump in that trap?

Pakistan people will do their bussiness build their country. And they are doing this very well for now. An additional PLAN base is not necessory.

Not everyone in Pakistan like China, some of them are willing to act by shooting Chinese people or hijack them. What will you suggest if a bus full of Chinese soldiers has been bombed near the foreign base?
Djibouti base is a very careful move. First it's a supply base, not a military base like Guam. Second the Chinese supply base in Djibouti is small compare to other foreign bases there. And most importantly we don't rent so many bases all over the world.

About 300 billion dollars are spent directly and indirectly every year to maintain oversea bases by USA. About twice of our total military budget. We got benefit by not act like USA, and you just wanna jump in that trap?

Pakistan people will do their bussiness build their country. And they are doing this very well for now. An additional PLAN base is not necessory.

Not everyone in Pakistan like China, some of them are willing to act by shooting Chinese people or hijack them. What will you suggest if a bus full of Chinese soldiers has been bombed near the foreign base?
It will happen one way or another!
Establishing a base in Pakistan is a favor from PAK bro to CHINA.
CHINA will be very thankful.
Driving a car may encounter car accident and may face death,is this the reason why we do not buy and drive cars any more?
Attack chinese military bases will face deadly retiliation.
Once contract concerning military base signed,both china and the host country need to foll ow the rules.
CHINA need to pay money in due time and restrict the use of base for military pirpose only and maintain the order inside the base and protect the nearby area security.


Host country need to follow the contract rules as well.

i know there are poeple in pakistan call CPEC as chinese invasion.
If a country helps to build and improve the roads,railways,electricity facilities,school.facilites and improve local life standard and hire local people in my homeland is invasion,i would say please come and invade us!

CHINA 30 oversea military bases VS US 500 bases,
CHINA is too much???
US can not even tolerate Cuba base of Soviet union but more than happy to eatablish military bases in South korea where the direct distance to Beijing is less than 1000 kms.

I am telling you CHINA oversea bases need no permission of anyone but the host country itself!
We do not give a shit on what US thinks!
 
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Pakistan’s purchase of two 055 will greatly increase its strike capability against India. However, a 055-type (13,000-ton) large destroyer is worth $ 1.5 billion, which is quite expensive.

CG of Type 055
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052D is better fit for PN.
 
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052D is better fit for PN.
More espensive for sure~!

China can sell Pakistan to one or two large-scale 055 destroyers at half price.
Or, if Pakistan allows the Chinese military to establish a military base for a decade, China will present two 055-type frigate to Pakistan for free.
Otherwise, 3 billions usd of two Type 055 is too expensive to offer by China to pakistan for free.
 
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Just see what the USA suffered, every year 800 billions dollars just vanished. More than half of them are used for foreign bases, that made them lack of money to get new equipments. And those local people hate those intruders, made American soldiers easy to attack.
Don't talk about things you know nothing about. It's so easy to attack American in SK, why China have not done so? :rofl:
 
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Djibouti base is a very careful move. First it's a supply base, not a military base like Guam. Second the Chinese supply base in Djibouti is small compare to other foreign bases there. And most importantly we don't rent so many bases all over the world.

About 300 billion dollars are spent directly and indirectly every year to maintain oversea bases by USA. About twice of our total military budget. We got benefit by not act like USA, and you just wanna jump in that trap?

Pakistan people will do their bussiness build their country. And they are doing this very well for now. An additional PLAN base is not necessory.

Not everyone in Pakistan like China, some of them are willing to act by shooting Chinese people or hijack them. What will you suggest if a bus full of Chinese soldiers has been bombed near the foreign base?

The dominance of the American dollar enables them to print money and spend it like toiler paper.

When China has such leverage and money it will be a good time to acquire some foreign bases. it better to fight a war away from home, preferably in someone else's neighborhood or back yard.

The Korean was primarily between the U.S.A and China and fighting it in Korea is much better than fighting in the Chinese homeland.

Imjin war too when the Ming fought the Jap barbarians in Korea.

You don't want that poisonous shit the Americans use like depleted uranium being used near Chinese territory.
 
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The dominance of the American dollar enables them to print money and spend it like toiler paper.

When China has such leverage and money it will be a good time to acquire some foreign bases. it better to fight a war away from home, preferably in someone else's neighborhood or back yard.

The Korean was primarily between the U.S.A and China and fighting it in Korea is much better than fighting in the Chinese homeland.

Imjin war too when the Ming fought the Jap barbarians in Korea.

You don't want that poisonous shit the Americans use like depleted uranium being used near Chinese territory.
Well said .
That is why I said as befoe.

China’s military bases are too few, not too many. China does not need to build 500 or even 1,000 military bases like the United States. However, in order to maintain world peace and resist US hegemony, China’s establishment of 20 to 30 military bases worldwide is not only necessary but absolutely needed.

Each small and medium-sized country also does not want US troops to dominate the world. Instead, they hopes that other countries, including China, can balance US hegemony and thus can obtain the best benefits.
 
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More espensive for sure~!

China can sell Pakistan to one or two large-scale 055 destroyers at half price.
Or, if Pakistan allows the Chinese military to establish a military base for a decade, China will present two 055-type frigate to Pakistan for free.
Otherwise, 3 billions usd of two Type 055 is too expensive to offer by China to pakistan for free.
why so complicated, we can directly pay rental fees to Pakistan if they agree we set up a military base in Karachi.
 
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Korea provides a good buffer for China as it funnels opposition forces into an narrow region on the peninsula rather than being spread out in Dongbei, making defence easier and cheaper.

China needs more force projection and forward deployment, there are diminishing returns for investing in just homeland defence and keeping troops at home. The costs of forward deployment would be higher and create higher hazards for the troops but this is a worthy sacrifice. It is different from constantly looking for a fight and maintaining an excessive number of overseas bases.

The ideal set up of the overseas bases during peacetime would be area coverage not necessarily density.

You don't want that poisonous shit the Americans use like depleted uranium being used near Chinese territory.
I want my 农夫山泉/Nongfu Spring pure. In the North East the water source is Changbaishan/Mount Paektu which is near the NK border. The water is sold to other parts of China as well. It would be disastrous if this water was polluted
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If Vietnamese want to have nuclear weapons? GOOD!They can wait for the entire Vietnamese to become extinct or become North Korea Number 2.
Not only will China oppose it, but the Americans will not let the Vietnamese enjoy it.

If you can have nukes in 1950s,1960s,1970s or even 1980s 1990s,no problems,too late for now!
Coz Soviet Union is dead!

China, the United States, Russia, the United Kingdom, and France do not want to allocate the power of nuclear bombs.
 
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This is a revolutionary tech break through that not many people knows except a limited china military fans. According to Ma, one such all-energy battle ship will be able to challenge a whole fleet of US AC battle group.

The first of such ship should be available around 2025, then we will witness the US navy dominance gone forever.
Sounds good to me, one made in CN energy battleship can challenge the entire US fleet. Can it cook rice and fly to my garden too?

Boy, everything has limits. Even bragging. Go home.
 
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Sounds good to me, one made in CN energy battleship can challenge the entire US fleet. Can it cook rice and fly to my garden too?

Boy, everything has limits. Even bragging. Go home.

This is called revolutionary breakthrough or disruptive innovation, and you better learn to shut up if you don't have a clue.

It is like fighting with sword or rifle, the later by the way led to 2/3 of the world get colonized for over 200 years including you kind. or like comparing normal bomb to atomic one, the diffirence bw killing 100 or 1000000 in one drop. I bet your monkdy-level IQ still don't figure out what is going on even today.

Besides, why do you care? Nobody will waste such advanced weapon on you. Even the American knows, that was why they prefered orange agent over nuke bombs when dealing with jungle animals, low-tech, cheap yet effective.

So you are assured the next greetings from China are all kinds of agents, apple, banana, or your favorite lemon grass whatever.
 
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