CHINA-US CONSENSUS: NORTH KOREA CAN NOT BECOME A NUCLEAR COUNTRY

[Lankan Ranger]

CHINA-US CONSENSUS: NORTH KOREA CAN NOT BECOME A NUCLEAR COUNTRY

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi held talks in Washington, both sides of the Korean Peninsula (the Korean Peninsula, the same) issues of common concern between the two countries carried out in-depth discussion.

U.S. State Department spokesman Crowley in a routine press conference after the talks, said, "Both countries want to ease the current tense atmosphere, and who do not want to keep North Korea becoming a nuclear country.

" At the same time, he said, "Both sides understand the importance of dialogue between North and South Korea to confirm the level of the six-party talks again the value of honest negotiations." Crowley, spokesman for the disclosure of "the Korean Peninsula is a long time discussing the talks, the issue very carefully", and later to convey that "the two leaders are to ensure regional stability as a goal, and confirmed that North Korea to comply with 2005 joint statement issued by the relevant provisions of the position. "

U.S. State Department said, including more than two hours, including lunch talks, both sides reaffirmed the atmosphere of detente on the Korean Peninsula and restart inter-Korean dialogue and the importance of six-party talks and so on. United States stressed that North Korea this first measures taken in good faith.

For North Korea’s "unconditional talks at the proposed inter-Korean authorities," the spokesman said Crowley, "North Korea should show sincerity on this proposal," "To this end, there is a clear North Korea to do something."

He once again that, "For dialogue to resolve the North Korean issue with the idea that understanding. But North Korea can not just mouth to say ‘use dialogue to resolve the problem’," "This requires the right environment." Then he said, "effectively promised not to challenge a measure, there is a joint statement in 2005 that agreed to comply with the contents of the gesture."

Day for the scheduled meeting is likely to be held on 19th of this month Obama talks with President Hu Jintao made two heads of state to prepare in advance.

White House spokesman Gibbs on the day of the regular conference reaffirmed that North Korea is the United States and China will be the main topics of the summit.

Sino-US consensus: North Korea can not become a nuclear country | WAREYE

 

[Sinnerman108]

Isn't it already an Nuclear country ??

Lets see,

1. It can enrich Uranium -------------- Check
2. It can produce plutonium -----------Check
3. capable of critical reaction ----------Check
4. Has own enrichment facility ---------Check
5. Displayed it's capability of controlled reactions Check !

What is more, it has the missile to tip with N-Stuff too !

 

[ajay]

They already have the misssiles to reach even Tokyo and Seoul is right nr the border easy access for the 1 million North korean soldiers

 

[Chogy]

None of their test shots have exceeded 5 to 10 kt. More were what are termed "fizzles." A normal yield for a non-boosted Pu weapon should be 20kt+. Their plutonium implosion technology is weak or lacking in some way, and a reliable and accurate delivery system is still in doubt.

I would not (yet) call them a nuclear power.

 

[Sinnerman108]

None of their test shots have exceeded 5 to 10 kt. More were what are termed "fizzles." A normal yield for a non-boosted Pu weapon should be 20kt+. Their plutonium implosion technology is weak or lacking in some way, and a reliable and accurate delivery system is still in doubt.

I would not (yet) call them a nuclear power.

Well !!! .... isn't a fizzle real good ?

You do appreciate the fact that south Korea isn't very far away ...

Fizzles can be of a lot more use then the Bangs !

 

[Chogy]

A fizzle is when the amount of fission is negligible. What happens - the conventional explosives implode to compress the nuclear core, but if the implosion is not perfect, then what happens is that the Pu pit is simply blown to bits with little or no chain reaction. The results are toxic and radioactive particles but a yield of maybe just a couple of tons of TNT. As a weapon, it's a total waste of Pu.

Both Russia and the U.S. conduct intentional fizzles to this very day, in that they substitute sensors and the pit is not fissile material, but they gather data on the implosion, and the sensors and computers these days will say "Yes, the implosion went as planned, and if this core was Pu, then there'd be 'X' kiloton yield." It's a way of testing nuclear bombs without a yield, and complies with test ban treaties in all their variety.

All the seismic and sensor data gathered on the North Korean tests implies that they haven't yet mastered the technology. Uranium bombs are very different and can be made using a "gun" device like the Hiroshima bomb, but the amount of Uranium vs Plutonium is much higher, something like 64 kilograms of U-235. At Hiroshima, of that 64 kilos, only 0.6 grams (or 0.0009&#37 was converted to energy via E=MC^2.

A Plutonium pit is much smaller, at only 5 to 8 kilos.

 

[NmHqh2JbVo]

I think Chinese will be in it 100% to support this idea if US warships pull back and dock in California.

 

[Sinnerman108]

A fizzle is when the amount of fission is negligible. What happens - the conventional explosives implode to compress the nuclear core, but if the implosion is not perfect, then what happens is that the Pu pit is simply blown to bits with little or no chain reaction. The results are toxic and radioactive particles but a yield of maybe just a couple of tons of TNT. As a weapon, it's a total waste of Pu.

Both Russia and the U.S. conduct intentional fizzles to this very day, in that they substitute sensors and the pit is not fissile material, but they gather data on the implosion, and the sensors and computers these days will say "Yes, the implosion went as planned, and if this core was Pu, then there'd be 'X' kiloton yield." It's a way of testing nuclear bombs without a yield, and complies with test ban treaties in all their variety.

All the seismic and sensor data gathered on the North Korean tests implies that they haven't yet mastered the technology. Uranium bombs are very different and can be made using a "gun" device like the Hiroshima bomb, but the amount of Uranium vs Plutonium is much higher, something like 64 kilograms of U-235. At Hiroshima, of that 64 kilos, only 0.6 grams (or 0.0009&#37 was converted to energy via E=MC^2.

A Plutonium pit is much smaller, at only 5 to 8 kilos.

Chogy:

For artillery operations a Fizzle is all what is required.
I would be much happier to use a Fizzle device to clear an area of foot soldiers than to use a bigger yield device which could kill my own men, who evidently are located VERY close to enemy

Few kilo Tons, VERY good !

A wounded enemy soldier is worth a lot more than a dead enemy soldier.

 

[Chogy]

There's a difference between a fizzle, and a miniaturized tactical weapon. The latter is hard to achieve and takes many years of research.

First generation nukes can weigh 2,000 to 4,000 kilos. At that mass, they'd better yield 20 KT+, which is what the U.S. had in 1945. Miniaturization means a nuke than can fit in a 200 mm artillery shell, and that is not the goal of NK.

All first generation nukes designed by a nation are for the goal of strategic deterrence. A nuclear nation needs this, along with a surplus of fissile material, before working on tactical nukes. That first stage is never skipped. The simple truth is that NK has failed in their efforts, so far.