Featured China-Turkey-Pakistan Alliance Dangerous For India Diplomatically, Economically & Militarily

[the_messenger]

Russia and China are strategic partners pretty much allies. China + Russia + Iran + Pakistan is the new quad.

Without Russia, there is no way to threaten China.

 

[Clutch]

Considering the Islamic orientation of Erdogan and his party and well-documented support for radical and terrorist groups, along with Pakistan’s support and sponsor of cross-border terror, and China’s expansionist tendencies,

Typical Hindutva tendency... Throw a BS grenade and run away like coward....

 

[paritosh]

lol yeah right and you are either delusional or naive or maybe both.

No he's right. India was supposed to sign the RCEP as well, but we walked out as the Modi govt. has obnoxious left-leaning economic impulses and RCEP would have made the Indian market more competitive for Indian companies (who don't fare very well against international competition).
RCEP has nothing to do with military alliances. As an example, Australia is looking to use RCEP to reduce its dependence on Chinese imports by spreading its exports to other RCEP countries.

 

[retaxis]

Without Russia, there is no way to threaten China.

India not in RCEP is great for China as it gets to do what it wants. Last step is to kick India out of SCO. SCO had military war games and was very tight before India joined.

 

[the_messenger]

India not in RCEP is great for China as it gets to do what it wants. Last step is to kick India out of SCO. SCO had military war games and was very tight before India joined.

SCO is kind of dead now.
Russia and China is talking directly for SCO tasks, virtually. Russia with her Eurasia economic block and China with BRI that linked together a few years ago.

 

[Saudang]

Ok that is a good start for you.........So now lets reflect on your two statement "US+India+Japan+Australia alliance" + "they are not like South Asian countries. they're more mature."

"US+India+Japan+Australia alliance"
India - It is a south asian country so it cannot be mature according to your statment.
US - Turn on your TV Channel and you will find your answers about maturity.

Japan+Australia:
Numerous times they have told US, diplomatically as well as publically that they only consider QUAD as a trading alliance not a military one. And what little opportunity US had to lure JP & AU was countered today by China.

So do I still need to explain you there is no US+India+Japan+Australia military, diplomatic alliance or you can connect some dots and ponder over it?

are you living under the rock or what ? having trading relationship has nothing to do with military or political enmity ..

US China Bilateral trade was $558 billion last year, China and India bilateral trade was $88 billion last year or China and Japan bilateral trade was $330 billion ... Now tell me which of these countries are friend with China. Infact all the top 5 trading countries with China are hostile to it..

only some delusional people in South Asia believe that trade and hostilities are zero sum game..

While all eyes have been on India and China after the recent clash in Ladakh, experts have warned that the Indians should be prepared to oppose the China-Turkey-Pakistan alliance.

Over the years it has been China and Turkey strengthening their ties which have often been limited by Turkey’s membership in NATO. However, bilateral ties have been completed since China launched its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) in 2013.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan took the opportunity when he tried to consolidate his AKP Party and regain the glory of Turkey’s Ottoman past. Another reason was that Erdogan’s ambitions to anoint himself as the leader of the Muslim world saw Turkey embrace in wars in foreign lands, thus putting Ankara in financial difficulties.
Crossing two continents, Turkey is strategically important to China’s BRI, as a trading and transportation hub, significantly shortening the time it takes to transport goods from China to Europe and Africa. Turkey had also launched its connection project to enter the Caucasus and Central Asia via the Kars-Tbilisi-Baku railway, known as the Middle Corridor.

Turkey is also a priority country with the Chinese-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB). The bank is assisting in the construction of the Salt Lake underground gas storage project, as it is said to be the largest conservation project in the world. Turkey is also an observer in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

Turkey is so eager for its partnership with China that Erdogan, who is positioning himself as the current Muslim Caliph, has turned a blind eye to China’s oppression of its Uighur Muslim community.
While Erdogan has turned a blind eye to the plight of Uighur Muslims, he has expressed support for Indian Muslims living in Kashmir. In fact, Turkey was one of three countries, in addition to China and Pakistan, to condemn India’s decision to revoke J & Ks’s special status.

Erdogan raised the issue at the UN General Assembly. During his visit to Pakistan in February, he compared the war of Kashmir with the war of the Ottoman Empire during the First World War.
Turkey offers emotional, ideological and political support to Pakistan, while China is offering material and political support. With China’s support, the Kashmir issue has been discussed three times in the UN Security Council since August 5, 2019.
Pakistan’s persistence and Turkey’s focus has also seen the Organization of Islamic Cooperation raising the Kashmir issue more than it would have.
Considering the Islamic orientation of Erdogan and his party and well-documented support for radical and terrorist groups, along with Pakistan’s support and sponsor of cross-border terror, and China’s expansionist tendencies, the China-Pakistan-Turkey alliance is an India that should be taken care of.

The China-Turkey-Pakistan alliance is dangerous for India diplomatically, economically and militarily

While all eyes have been on India and China after the recent clash in Ladakh, experts have warned that the Indians should be prepared to oppose the China-Turkey-Pakistan alliance. Over the years it has been China and Turkey strengthening their ties which have often been limited by Turkey’s...

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India Tukey relationship is just ok at this point of time.. it will go back to normal the moment Erdogan is sent to the gallows or dungeon.

In general Turkey has no capability or desire to do anything about India. All the occasional commentary by Erdogan on Kashmir is to get Pakistanis dancing for few days. Its like a small favor to his Friend PM Imran Khan ..

 

[Black.Mamba]

are you living under the rock or what ? having trading relationship has nothing to do with military or political enmity ..

US China Bilateral trade was $558 billion last year, China and India bilateral trade was $88 billion last year or China and Japan bilateral trade was $330 billion ... Now tell me which of these countries are friend with China. Infact all the top 5 trading countries with China are hostile to it..

I believe self-contradictory statement is a new norm in India.
If the trade has nothing to do with enmity then why is US focusing on putting trade barriers vis-à-vis China?
Why was your Prime Minister threatening China of reducing trade after loosing 1000s sqkm of land?

First make up your mind trade is important or not. For any other logical being, trade enables a hostile country to have more flexibility in spending for military endeavors.

only some delusional people in South Asia believe that trade and hostilities are zero sum game..

Instead of generalizing the statement to all South Asian, you can specifically mention India. Why does India avoid playing a cricket game with Pakistan? ........ trade can have implications that I previously mentioned but what can a game of cricket potential have?

In post covid world countries like Japan and Australia will not be settling scores (Militarily) on behalf of US or India. Out of all the places, Japan with a history of war, you really think Japan will be hostile towards china? The answer is quite simple, open the world map and you will get your answers.

Since this topic is all about alliances; So what exactly Australia and Japan has done to protect their ally (India) after it lost 1000s of km of land to their so-called rival, did I miss the news that Japanese and Australian troops are in Ladakh now or for that matter American?

 

[Saudang]

I believe self-contradictory statement is a new norm in India.
If the trade has nothing to do with enmity then why is US focusing on putting trade barriers vis-à-vis China?
Why was your Prime Minister threatening China of reducing trade after loosing 1000s sqkm of land?

First make up your mind trade is important or not. For any other logical being, trade enables a hostile country to have more flexibility in spending for military endeavors.


Instead of generalizing the statement to all South Asian, you can specifically mention India. Why does India avoid playing a cricket game with Pakistan? ........ trade can have implications that I previously mentioned but what can a game of cricket potential have?

In post covid world countries like Japan and Australia will not be settling scores (Militarily) on behalf of US or India. Out of all the places, Japan with a history of war, you really think Japan will be hostile towards china? The answer is quite simple, open the world map and you will get your answers.

Since this topic is all about alliances; So what exactly Australia and Japan has done to protect their ally (India) after it lost 1000s of km of land to their so-called rival, did I miss the news that Japanese and Australian troops are in Ladakh now or for that matter American?

Delusion and Pakistani seems synonyms now a days.. just because some countries signed a free trade agreement does not make them allies or non hostile. Do you really believe that just because of the agreement Vietnam and China will be friends leaving behind South China sea dispute or China and Japan will forget about senkaku islands or the rest of the ASEAN countries will leave their claims on SCS?

All the hostile countries will do everything to forward their economic agenda with China and will keep on being hostile to China at the same time.. time to wake up and see the world operating in different levels and spectrum.

With regards to whether Japan or Australia will fight for India or not, well i would suggest you to ask the same question to the Pakistani member who started the thread on some dreamy Pakistani Turkey China alliance... Ask yourself if any of these countries will fight for Pakistan? You iron brother is shying away from his own fight for Taiwan or Arunachal Pradesh....what chances are there that it will spend Han blood for some irrelevant South Asian small ego?

Meanwhile as i am replying to you, carrier battle groups from US, Indian, Japanese Navies along with Australian Navy is practicing how to spank one upcoming bully.

 

[CrazyZ]

US+India+Japan+Australia alliance is dangerous for China, diplomatically and militarily

@Get Ya Wig Split

US+India+Australia alliance (with help from NATO, Russia and Iran) was defeated by the Taliban. Japan would have made no difference. Good luck taking on the PLA.

 

[not_two]

US+India+Australia alliance (with help from NATO, Russia and Iran) was defeated by the Taliban. Japan would have made no difference. Good luck taking on the PLA.

Ya I too am defeated by mosquitoes as I try to move away from those whenever I can ..

 

[White and Green with M/S]

lol yeah right and you are either delusional or naive or maybe both.

BROTHER @striver44 ALWAYS HAS A ANTI CHINESE SENTIMENTS, HE HAS NO LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE. YOU SHOULD IGNORE HIM

Ya I too am defeated by mosquitoes as I try to move away from those whenever I can ..

PLAA is lot better than your mosquitoes

 

[python-000]

While all eyes have been on India and China after the recent clash in Ladakh, experts have warned that the Indians should be prepared to oppose the China-Turkey-Pakistan alliance.

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Over the years it has been China and Turkey strengthening their ties which have often been limited by Turkey’s membership in NATO. However, bilateral ties have been completed since China launched its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) in 2013.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan took the opportunity when he tried to consolidate his AKP Party and regain the glory of Turkey’s Ottoman past. Another reason was that Erdogan’s ambitions to anoint himself as the leader of the Muslim world saw Turkey embrace in wars in foreign lands, thus putting Ankara in financial difficulties.
Crossing two continents, Turkey is strategically important to China’s BRI, as a trading and transportation hub, significantly shortening the time it takes to transport goods from China to Europe and Africa. Turkey had also launched its connection project to enter the Caucasus and Central Asia via the Kars-Tbilisi-Baku railway, known as the Middle Corridor.

Turkey is also a priority country with the Chinese-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB). The bank is assisting in the construction of the Salt Lake underground gas storage project, as it is said to be the largest conservation project in the world. Turkey is also an observer in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

Turkey is so eager for its partnership with China that Erdogan, who is positioning himself as the current Muslim Caliph, has turned a blind eye to China’s oppression of its Uighur Muslim community.
While Erdogan has turned a blind eye to the plight of Uighur Muslims, he has expressed support for Indian Muslims living in Kashmir. In fact, Turkey was one of three countries, in addition to China and Pakistan, to condemn India’s decision to revoke J & Ks’s special status.

Erdogan raised the issue at the UN General Assembly. During his visit to Pakistan in February, he compared the war of Kashmir with the war of the Ottoman Empire during the First World War.
Turkey offers emotional, ideological and political support to Pakistan, while China is offering material and political support. With China’s support, the Kashmir issue has been discussed three times in the UN Security Council since August 5, 2019.
Pakistan’s persistence and Turkey’s focus has also seen the Organization of Islamic Cooperation raising the Kashmir issue more than it would have.
Considering the Islamic orientation of Erdogan and his party and well-documented support for radical and terrorist groups, along with Pakistan’s support and sponsor of cross-border terror, and China’s expansionist tendencies, the China-Pakistan-Turkey alliance is an India that should be taken care of.

The China-Turkey-Pakistan alliance is dangerous for India diplomatically, economically and militarily

While all eyes have been on India and China after the recent clash in Ladakh, experts have warned that the Indians should be prepared to oppose the China-Turkey-Pakistan alliance. Over the years it has been China and Turkey strengthening their ties which have often been limited by Turkey’s...

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No its PAKISTAN CHINA RUSSIA & TURKEY Alliance...

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

China+Russia+Iran+TURKEY+ Azerbaijan+Qatar(dormant)+Malaysia+
Pakistan. The more we can get on our side the better.

The ideal solution to the Indian question is a Syria like Scenario where India is carved up by different powers according to their interests. With muslims states reintegrating with Pakistan as either complete provinces or semi autonomous regions. Pakistan should have naval bases and ports in Goa and Callcutta. This will allow naval overwatch in both flanks i.e Bey of Bengal and Arabian Sea next to Mumbai.

A free Sikh state. From Indian Punjab, Haryana and Himanchal Pradesh(entire or shared with China). This free Sikh state should not be given free rein but should be a satellite state to Pakistan with conditional integration in CPEC/BRI infrastructure.

Indian North East should go to China.

Rest Hindus and other powers can figure out what works for them.

It is also in Pakistan's interest to have SOLID, absolutely solid trade and military relations with New Afghanistan and cleanse it of Indian and US proxies.

The world already call us a terrorist. India has labored intensively to make us another Syria. We should also work hard for such a Scenario. Or at least war game it. Show the world what terrorism looks like. Our interest is to further exacerbate Hindu extremism which will cause India to collapse on itself.

But all this is a pipe dream unless Pakistan makes itself stronger diplomatically, economically and militarily. Could still be doable with right mindset and maneuvering.