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China to unveil new missiles: State media

China unveil a range of previously unknown missiles during its October 1 National Day parade, including intercontinental ballistic nuclear missiles, state media said on Wednesday.


The new hardware on display also will include conventional cruise missiles and both short- and medium-range missiles, the Global Times newspaper reported, citing an unnamed People's Liberation Army source.



"These missiles are domestically designed and manufactured and have never been officially reported before," the source, who is with the PLA's strategic missile defence unit, was quoted as saying.



The weapons have already been distributed to the military and are ready for operation, the source said. China's missile development programme has caused concern overseas, particularly in the United States, amid projections that it could soon tip the security balance in the Taiwan Strait.
 
wow. sausages, here we go...
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They're best known as Hotdogs - with a touch of curry.:azn:
 
I am waiting for this showdown.
 
In the days when McCarthyism went amuck in the US, anyone who voiced a little sympathy or told a little truth about communism would be considered as Soviet/China spy, and be prosecuted in one way or another. Among them was Chinese scholar Hsue-shen Tsien or Qian XueShen.

Mr. Tsien was a descendent of a Chinese emperor. He went to US to study in MIT and Cal-Tech. He was later prosecuted by FBI based on the suspicion that he was a communist. He was deported and left Jet Propulsion Laboratory that he co-founded at the California Institute of Technology.

He vowed to create missile system for the new China, and would never set his feet on American soil again unless US government apologies.

When he returned to China, he was lionized by the new Communist government. Given all the resources at the state's disposal, he eventually created a Chinese jet-propulsion industry. His work led to the development of a wide range of native missiles.

The forgotten 'spy' case of a rocket scientist

Earlier, Caltech appointed attorney Grant Cooper to defend Tsien. Later, Cooper would say, "That the government permitted this genius, this scientific genius, to be sent to Communist China to pick his brains is one of the tragedies of this century."

In 1979 Tsien was awarded Caltech's Distinguished Alumni Award. In the early 1990s the filing cabinets containing Tsien's research work were offered to him by Caltech. At first Tsien refused but was finally convinced by his former colleagues to accept the work. Most of these works became the foundation for the Tsien Library at Xi'an Jiaotong University while the rest went to the Institute of Mechanics. Tsien eventually received his award from Caltech, and with the help of his friend Frank Marble brought it to his home in a widely-covered ceremony. Tsien was also invited to visit the US after the normalization of sino-us relationship. But he refused the invitation because the US government only offered a compensation without apology for his detainment.

The PRC launched its manned space program in 1992 and used Tsien's research as the basis for the Long March rocket which successfully launched the Shenzhou V mission in October 2003. The elderly Tsien was able to watch China's first manned space mission on television from his hospital bed.

Thus, if there is any conclusion for today to be drawn from the Tsien affair, it is perhaps that the greatest US security losses ever is self-inflicted.

Unfortunately, but fortunately to US competitors/enemies, US keeps inflicting itself. Look at the case against nuclear physicist Dr. Wen Ho Lee. The accusation was obviously more based on his ethnic background than anything else.

Americans need to adjust their mentalities. Even on this forum, when I commented on positive aspects of Communism, I was accused of being a communist and was hoped to be beheaded by my fellow Americans.

In conclusion, I’d say that to make a country greater, it is not how greater the people of the country can do, rather it is how less bad they can do.

For more about Mr. Tsien's story, read Iris Chang's novel Thread of the Silkworm. Amazon.com: Thread Of The Silkworm (9780465006786): Iris Chang: Books
 
:) gpit i dont know if you were branded as pro-china by your fellow countrymen here but one thing is clear from the history of US foreign policy that the Americans have created more troubles for themselves as well as the world on one or the other pretext.

Being american ally atleast we have learnt one thing that US can never be trusted.
 
A pieces of news in Chinese circulating in the web goes: Chinese SSBN fired a new type of Chinese ICBM from northern Atlantic and hit a target in Xinjiang in July.

And if you relate the news that two subs from Britain and France collided in northern Atlantic, makes you wonder: the two ships were probably in a anti-sub mission?
 
Did Chinese state media mention these `rumors':

A. China has more than 2000 nukes
B. 10,000 warheads in first wave of strike against China is not enough to securely take out entirely Chinese land nuclear retaliation capabilities
C. China has actively prep'in for defensive war for more than 10 years

:cheesy:
 
In the days when McCarthyism went amuck in the US, anyone who voiced a little sympathy or told a little truth about communism would be considered as Soviet/China spy, and be prosecuted in one way or another. Among them was Chinese scholar Hsue-shen Tsien or Qian XueShen.

Mr. Tsien was a descendent of a Chinese emperor. He went to US to study in MIT and Cal-Tech. He was later prosecuted by FBI based on the suspicion that he was a communist. He was deported and left Jet Propulsion Laboratory that he co-founded at the California Institute of Technology.

He vowed to create missile system for the new China, and would never set his feet on American soil again unless US government apologies.



Earlier, Caltech appointed attorney Grant Cooper to defend Tsien. Later, Cooper would say, "That the government permitted this genius, this scientific genius, to be sent to Communist China to pick his brains is one of the tragedies of this century."

In 1979 Tsien was awarded Caltech's Distinguished Alumni Award. In the early 1990s the filing cabinets containing Tsien's research work were offered to him by Caltech. At first Tsien refused but was finally convinced by his former colleagues to accept the work. Most of these works became the foundation for the Tsien Library at Xi'an Jiaotong University while the rest went to the Institute of Mechanics. Tsien eventually received his award from Caltech, and with the help of his friend Frank Marble brought it to his home in a widely-covered ceremony. Tsien was also invited to visit the US after the normalization of sino-us relationship. But he refused the invitation because the US government only offered a compensation without apology for his detainment.

The PRC launched its manned space program in 1992 and used Tsien's research as the basis for the Long March rocket which successfully launched the Shenzhou V mission in October 2003. The elderly Tsien was able to watch China's first manned space mission on television from his hospital bed.

Thus, if there is any conclusion for today to be drawn from the Tsien affair, it is perhaps that the greatest US security losses ever is self-inflicted.

Unfortunately, but fortunately to US competitors/enemies, US keeps inflicting itself. Look at the case against nuclear physicist Dr. Wen Ho Lee. The accusation was obviously more based on his ethnic background than anything else.

Americans need to adjust their mentalities. Even on this forum, when I commented on positive aspects of Communism, I was accused of being a communist and was hoped to be beheaded by my fellow Americans.

In conclusion, I’d say that to make a country greater, it is not how greater the people of the country can do, rather it is how less bad they can do.

For more about Mr. Tsien's story, read Iris Chang's novel Thread of the Silkworm. Amazon.com: Thread Of The Silkworm (9780465006786): Iris Chang: Books

Excellently said, the racial bigotry is more damaging than 'foreign threats'. Take USA, they systematic mistreatment and outright discrimination of "colored people" is creating a hotbead of discontent (leading to future retaliatory uprising). Hindu's mistreatment of Mongoloids (both domestic and foreign) is depriving them of genius and hardworking contribution from Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and SE Asians. If you are going to be blind, at least be color blind instead. :smitten:
 
China to unveil 5 new missiles on Oct 1
Press Trust of India / Beijing September 2, 2009, 19:51 IST

Amid global concern over China's massive defence modernisation, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) will unveil five new generation of missiles, including intercontinental ballistic nuclear missiles and other weapon systems to mark the 60th National Day parade here on October 1.

The 2.3 million-strong PLA will showcase five new types of domestically designed missiles at the National Day parade, state-run 'Global Times' reported today, quoting a leading missile expert from the Second Artillery Force, China's strategic nuclear force, as saying.

A number of advanced weapons of air and sea forces will also be on display at the military parade, to be held for the first time since the National Day in 1999, it said.

Five types of missiles, including nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles, conventional cruise missiles and medium-range and short-range conventional missiles, will be displayed for the first time at the highly anticipated military parade, it quoted the expert as saying.

"These missiles are domestically designed and manufactured and have never been officially reported before," he said, adding that they belong to a second generation of missiles that have already been distributed to the military and are ready for operation.

"The third generation is still under development and is unlikely to be displayed this time," he said.

The parades, held once in a decade, typically showcase new-generation weapons systems developed by the PLA. They are closely scrutinised by foreign military experts for clues about Chinese military development trends.

Military experts have been expecting to see the Dongfeng 41, known as the DF-41, and the CSS-X-10, which is said to be a third-generation, solid-fuel, intercontinental ballistic missile.

While China is a late starter in the missile development, compared with the US and Russia – countries equipped with fifth-generation missiles and in the process of developing sixth-generation missiles – it has made rapid progress, the expert said.

"Our second generation can match their third and fourth generations, and the third generation under development is comparable to their fifth and sixth generations," he said.

Progress made by the Second Artillery Force in the decade since 1999 will be highlighted at the October 1 event, with marching soldiers and vehicles carrying missiles, three for every type, the paper, a sister publication of the ruling Communist Party of China, said.

The Second Artillery Force is a strategic unit under the direct command and control of the Central Military Commission, China's top military organ.

A new submarine-launched ballistic missile, Julang 2, also known as JL-2 and CSS-NX-4, is also highly anticipated to make an appearance at the parade.

Li Daguang, a senior military expert at the PLA University of National Defence, emphasised that the military parade is not for saber rattling but aims to promote national pride, confidence and awareness of national defence.

"Some countries, observing China's parade with coloured glasses, show off their weapons around the world on the battlefield instead," Li said.

Chinese President Hu Jintao will address the huge celebration at Tian'anmen Square on October 1, followed by the military parade and a mass pageant involving 200,000 people, 60 floats and a fireworks display.

China's massive defence modernisation and its double digit defence spending have caused global concern.
 
Urdu post (from express news)

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:bounce:I want an ICBM.:bounce: I want an ICBM.:bounce:

Friend, you mean you want for Pak to have DongFeng41 (which is comparable to top-of-the-line US & Russian missiles). :)


5 types of missiles to debut on National Day


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China will showcase five new types of domestically designed missiles at the Oct. 1 National Day parade, a leading missile expert from the Second Artillery Force, revealed Tuesday.

A number of advanced weapons of air and sea forces will also be on display, other sources said.

Dongfeng 41, a third-generation, solid-fuel, intercontinental ballistic missile, is unlikely to be displayed this time according to a leading missile expert from the Second Artillery Force.

Five types of missiles, including nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles, conventional cruise missiles and medium-range and short-range conventional missiles, will be displayed for the first time at the highly anticipated military parade, said the expert, who asked to remain anonymous and has been closely following the preparations of the strategic force of the People's Liberation Army (PLA).


"These missiles are domestically designed and manufactured and have never been officially reported before," he said, adding that they belong to a second generation of missiles that have already been distributed to the military and are ready for operation.

He declined to disclose the model numbers of the missiles, citing state-secrecy reasons.

"The third generation is still under development and is unlikely to be displayed this time," he said.

Military aficionados have been expecting to see the Dongfeng 41, known as the DF-41, and the CSS-X-10, which is said to be a third-generation, solid-fuel, intercontinental ballistic missile.

While China is a late starter in the milssile development, compared with the US and Russia – countries equipped with fifth-generation missiles and in the process of developing sixth-generation missiles – it has made rapid progress, the expert said.

"Our second generation can match their third and fourth generations, and the third generation under development is comparable to their fifth and sixth generations," he said.

Progress made by the Second Artillery Force in the decade since the last military parade in 1999 will be highlighted at the Oct. 1 event, with marching soldiers and vehicles carrying missiles, three for every type.

"The force has created weaponry and equipment with nuclear and conventional missiles, both solid-fuel and liquid-fuel missiles, with different launching ranges, quick emergency response and precision strikes," he said.

The Second Artillery Force is a strategic unit under the direct command and control of the Central Military Commission, and the core force of China for strategic deterrence, according to a white paper entitled "China's National Defense in 2008," issued earlier this year by the Information Office of the State Council.

One of the force's responsibilities is "conducting nuclear counterattacks," the paper said.


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Dongfeng 41, a third-generation, solid-fuel, intercontinental ballistic missile, is unlikely to be displayed this time according to a leading missile expert from the Second Artillery Force.


"The statement indicates that the force can survive a nuclear attack before carrying out a counterattack. Any country that attempts to attack China with nuclear weapons must get ready for revenge, even if it has an anti-missile system," the expert said, adding that China's nuclear missiles, though few in number, have a high strike accuracy and formidable power.

A new submarine-launched ballistic missile, Julang 2, also known as JL-2 and CSS-NX-4, is also highly anticipated by fans of military hardware to make an appearance at the parade. It is said to have a maximum range of 8,000 kilometers and be designed to be installed onboard current and next-generation Chinese nuclear-powered submarines.

Li Jie, a naval expert, didn't exclude the possibility of Julang-2's appearance on Oct. 1. Li told the Global Times that the navy would showcase some types of ship-to-ship missile, ship-to-air missile and multiple rocket launchers at the parade.

"Maybe two to three of them will be unveiled for the first time," Li said. "The new weapons will help enhance the navy's combat capability in any future sea war."

Dai Xu, an air force colonel and military strategist, told the Global Times that a large part of the weaponry and equipment of the air force would be showcased at the parade, including third-generation warplanes, land-to-air missiles and sophisticated radar equipment.

"The backbone warplanes of the major military powers in the world are third generation. The qualities of some of our warplanes are at a level that is advanced in terms of the rest of the world," Dai said.

Li Daguang, a senior military expert at the PLA University of National Defense, emphasized that the military parade is not for saber rattling but aims to promote national pride, confidence and awareness of national defense.

"Some countries, observing China's parade with colored glasses, show off their weapons around the world on the battlefield instead," Li said.

Li Jie argued that the parade can reflect the current situation and tendency of China's military weaponry, as well as a way of showing China's military openness and transparency, and how it is aligned with international military standards.

According to the arrangement, President Hu Jintao will offer a keynote address at the huge celebration at Tian'anmen Square on Oct. 1, followed by the military parade and a mass pageant involving 200,000 people, 60 floats and a fireworks display.

(Global Times September 2, 2009)
 
Friend, you mean you want for Pak to have DongFeng41 (which is comparable to top-of-the-line US & Russian missiles). :)

No. If we get an ICBM. The world propaganda against us will be greater than ever. I just wanted a better ICBM for china with more range and better radar and guidance. Its always good to have a powerful ally.:pakistan::china:
 
No. If we get an ICBM. The world propaganda against us will be greater than ever. I just wanted a better ICBM for china with more range and better radar and guidance. Its always good to have a powerful ally.:pakistan::china:

Hey dont worry mate, pakistan is also building an ICBMS Nuclear Capable Missile Taimur If Iam not wrong.... :agree:
 

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