China to open a drone factory in Saudi Arabia

[Beast]

I prefer discuss with them.

Let me give you example. If you not doing anything to rebuke fabricated lies about China banning Ramadan or banning Muslim. Do you think it will do good for Pakistan and China r/s?

 

[帅的一匹]

Let me give you example. If you not doing anything to rebuke fabricated lies about China banning Ramadan or banning Muslim. Do you think it will do good for Pakistan and China r/s?

Sometime Turks support Uyghers terrorists, Pakistanis never support it.

 

[帅的一匹]

For example, we don't like salafism doesn't prevent us cooperate with KSA in many fields.

Let me give you example. If you not doing anything to rebuke fabricated lies about China banning Ramadan or banning Muslim. Do you think it will do good for Pakistan and China r/s?

Every country has pros and cons.

 

[royalharris]

I would rather Pakistan to be the leader of Muslim world.

No way if there is no such ambition
They are also not rational to make right long sight decisions

 

[Max]

@Beast i have yet to see any Pakistani saying Turkey is better in drones then china. Also problem is not Chinese equipment, problem is you deny top tier equipement to Pakistan and market 2nd tier stuff like vt-4 which is not the case if we deal with Turkey, they are ready to sell everything they are producing for themselves on nato standards. Nothing to do with religion.

 

[帅的一匹]

@Beast i have yet to see any Pakistani saying Turkey is better in drones then china. Also problem is not Chinese equipment, problem is you deny top tier equipement to Pakistan and market 2nd tier stuff like vt-4 which is not the case if we deal with Turkey, they are ready to sell everything they are producing for themselves on nato standards. Nothing to do with religion.

Business is business . To be honest, VT4 is good enough to deal with T90.

Recently VT4 beated T90 tank and won the contract for Royal Thai army.

No way if there is no such ambition

Money matters.

 

[Beast]

@Beast i have yet to see any Pakistani saying Turkey is better in drones then china. Also problem is not Chinese equipment, problem is you deny top tier equipement to Pakistan and market 2nd tier stuff like vt-4 which is not the case if we deal with Turkey, they are ready to sell everything they are producing for themselves on nato standards. Nothing to do with religion.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-129-helicopters-locally.495270/#post-9472871

Guys,

Are any Turkish drones coming or is there any interest in PA in procuring them?

http://www.radioscanner.ru/uploader/2016/2016-02-09_135139.jpg

Not just in drone but many I think is anything made by Turkish and fanboy pakistanis will jump into it without even knowing the spec. T-129 vs Z-10 is a classic example of comparison without any merit. An elite PDF member even thinking procuring Turkish drone is better than CH-4/5 on table.

As for your VT-4 which you think is some junk tank offer to PA. Let me give simple analogy.
If China has the chance to offer you something like Eurotyphoon but its a 4.5th gen fighter. Will most Pakistanis want it? But are you going to say Eurotyphoon is the same class and gen as J-20?

If so many Pakistanis think Eurotyphoon is such top great sophisticated fighter, what is wrong with China offer VT-4 instead of Type 99A2 tank to PA? From my Chinese source, VT-4 is still not out but is more of PA want more customize and price issue. Mind you, VT-4 is not some cheap tank. During bidding for Royal Thai Army tending, its per cost unit is even higher than T-90 and yet RTA still chooses VT-4. VT-4 is the most sophisticated mbt China has exported so far. Even the Iraq army which operates the US M1A2 tank still decide to get the Chinese VT-4. More or less tells you how good this tank is.

 

[帅的一匹]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...-129-helicopters-locally.495270/#post-9472871



Not just in drone but many I think is anything made by Turkish and fanboy pakistanis will jump into it without even knowing the spec. T-129 vs Z-10 is a classic example of comparison without any merit. An elite PDF member even thinking procuring Turkish drone is better than CH-4/5 on table.

As for your VT-4 which you think is some junk tank offer to PA. Let me give simple analogy.
If China has the chance to offer you something like Eurotyphoon but its a 4.5th gen fighter. Will most Pakistanis want it? But are you going to say Eurotyphoon is the same class and gen as J-20?

If so many Pakistanis think Eurotyphoon is such top great sophisticated fighter, what is wrong with China offer VT-4 instead of Type 99A2 tank to PA? From my Chinese source, VT-4 is still not out but is more of PA want more customize and price issue. Mind you, VT-4 is not some cheap tank. During bidding for Royal Thai Army tending, its per cost unit is even higher than T-90 and yet RTA still chooses VT-4. VT-4 is the most sophisticated mbt China has exported so far. Even the Iraq army which operates the US M1A2 tank still decide to get the Chinese VT-4. More or less tells you how good this tank is.

Both VT4 and FC31 are A-class weapon.

 

[dy1022]

Sometime Turks support Uyghers terrorists, Pakistanis never support it.

Wrong, pakistanis support Uyghers since long time ago, check 1990-2010.

 

[Jlaw]

Agree. In other thread I said I hope Iran could be the leader of Muslim world. Iran's ideology seems much better than Ksa's.

Ksa export wahabism. Iran doesn't. Have yiu noticed Isis , al queda never commit terrorist acts in ksa

 

[Beast]

Wrong, pakistanis support Uyghers since long time ago, check 1990-2010.

But at least Pakistan will repatriate any Chinese Uyghur in Pakistan if requested by CPC unlike Turkey. Anyway, we are out of topic.

I believe the CH-4 drone TOT to saudi still has the main CPU still needs to be imported from China plus the system tied to Chinese beidou 2. TOT is always a very loose term.

 

[帅的一匹]

Wrong, pakistanis support Uyghers since long time ago, check 1990-2010.

That's a far-fetched topic, don't have to bring it up.

 

[Max]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/****...-129-helicopters-locally.495270/#post-9472871

Its about attack helicopter not drones as you mentioned.

Why didnt Saudi buy mighty turkey drone? A lot of Pakistanis think turkey drone is more superior to Chinese one..

I hope Saudi decision tells those ignorant the answer.

Not just in drone but many I think is anything made by Turkish and fanboy pakistanis will jump into it without even knowing the spec. T-129 vs Z-10 is a classic example of comparison without any merit. An elite PDF member even thinking procuring Turkish drone is better than CH-4/5 on table.

As for your VT-4 which you think is some junk tank offer to PA. Let me give simple analogy.
If China has the chance to offer you something like Eurotyphoon but its a 4.5th gen fighter. Will most Pakistanis want it? But are you going to say Eurotyphoon is the same class and gen as J-20?

If so many Pakistanis think Eurotyphoon is such top great sophisticated fighter, what is wrong with China offer VT-4 instead of Type 99A2 tank to PA? From my Chinese source, VT-4 is still not out but is more of PA want more customize and price issue. Mind you, VT-4 is not some cheap tank. During bidding for Royal Thai Army tending, its per cost unit is even higher than T-90 and yet RTA still chooses VT-4. VT-4 is the most sophisticated mbt China has exported so far. Even the Iraq army which operates the US M1A2 tank still decide to get the Chinese VT-4. More or less tells you how good this tank is.

Most Turkish weapon system are amalgamation of European systems, so dont call it just Turkish products, call it euro Turkish products.. well Pakistanis are not special,, even non Muslim world trust European equipment more then Chinese, it have nothing to do with religion.. rest for VT-4 and Z-10 well i am sure Pakistan will decide on merit, if our high command chose sanction prone euro Turk equipment over Chinese products with easy logistics it means there is something wrong. it will certainly not be on the bases of religion.

 

[帅的一匹]

Its about attack helicopter not drones as you mentioned.






Most Turkish weapon system are amalgamation of European systems, so dont call it just Turkish products, call it euro Turkish products.. well Pakistanis are not special,, even non Muslim world trust European equipment more then Chinese, it have nothing to do with religion.. rest for VT-4 and Z-10 well i am sure Pakistan will decide on merit, if our high command chose sanction prone euro Turk equipment over Chinese products with easy logistics it means there is something wrong. it will certainly not be on the bases of religion.

T129 and Mushak is offset deal, that's how it works. Nothing is wrong.

 

[mike2000 is back]

You Guys support the Syrian Government of Bashar Al Assad. While setting up Drone Production in KSA too? Which will be likely used against Syrians in future? Now that's called War Profiteering.

Huh.....what's the issue there? This is geo-politics, every country is after their national interests. So if the Chinese can profit from both sides what's the problem?
It's just like during the Iran-Iraq war, China sold a massive amount of weapons to both sides. in fact some people believe during those years this war kept Chinese military industries growing even faster. So will you blame China for that? I don't see anything wrong in that.
Every power is only after their interests, especially when it means making money they will sell to almost any country who can buy as long as it doesn't affects them directly.