China to complete J-10 development before launching fifth-generation fighter

[pakpower]

look at this!

So what should this picture represents here ???...

 

[Dark Angel]

So what should this picture represents here ???...

Photoshop

 

[SBD-3]

Photoshop

doesnt look like this way

 

[Ghazy]

doesnt look like this way

Read the site name over the picture.
military.photoshops.blogspot.com
So this is PS

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Saab delivers the perfect match to Brazil

They lost the Brazilian MMRCA contest, Rafale ruled....

Boeing offered F-18 but Brazilians didnt even approached Boeing for negotiations...

Brazil Moves Toward Buying Rafale Jets From Dassault

By Helene Fouquet and Adriana Brasileiro

Sept. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Brazil opened talks with Dassault Aviation SA and France to buy 36 Rafale fighter jets, President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said, pointing to broader military cooperation with the French as a key factor in the choice.

Lula said talks started largely because France is offering access to the plane’s technology. The contract would be worth as much as 5 billion euros ($7.2 billion), an official at the French president’s office said on condition of anonymity. French President Nicolas Sarkozy said France plans to buy 10 military transport planes from Empresa Brasileira Aeronautica SA.

“We have today consolidated our strategic partnership with France,” Lula said at a joint news conference in Brasilia.

The choice to move ahead on the sale with Dassault is a blow to competing bidders, Chicago-based Boeing Co. and Sweden’s Saab AB, as Brazil beefs up its military capabilities and seeks to expand access to technology. Should the negotiations work out, Brazil would have about 13 billion euros in arms purchases from France, including the 8 billion-euro accord for submarines and helicopters the countries signed in December.

The fighter jet contract would be worth about 140 million euros for each plane, the official in the office of the French president said. France has committed to building some of the Rafale jets in Brazil and is ready to deliver the first plane as early as 2013, the official said.

Breakthrough Sale

Lula made the announcement as Sarkozy finished a two-day visit to Brazil to push the South American nation to become the first foreign buyer of the Rafale. Dassault in the past five years has suffered a number of defeats on the international export market, leaving the French state until now as its only customer for the Rafale.

“We are doing with the Rafale what we did a year ago with the submarines,” Sarkozy said. “The head of state makes his decision, we start exclusive negotiations. It took nine months for the conclusion of the negotiations for the submarine. It’s a process.”

Boeing Co., which produces the F-18 Super Hornet, and Saab AB, maker of the Gripen plane, haven’t been approached for negotiations, Foreign Affairs Minister Celso Amorim told reporters. Amorim said negotiations with France concern a reasonable price, financial conditions, building the plane in Brazil and allowing Brazil to sell the plane to its Latin American neighbors.

‘Great Aerospace’

“With Lula we want to develop a great aerospace industry. We want to build planes together, develop planes together, sell planes together,” Sarkozy said during the press conference today.

Lula reiterated that Brazil is seeking transfer of the technology required to build parts of the aircraft on its soil, making it a key element for bidders to win the deal.

France is negotiating to sell the fighter to countries including India, Greece, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

Dassault developed the Rafale to succeed its Mirage model. France’s government is the only customer so far for the jet, with firm orders for 120 aircraft as part of a pledge to buy 294 jets over the next two decades.

Sarkozy said during the press conference the country plans to replace its Lockheed C-130 Hercules military transport planes, starting with 10 KC-390 jets under development by Embraer, as the Sao Jose dos Campos, Brazil-based company is known. The purchase may cost about 500 million euros, according to the official in the French president’s office.

Military Contracts

This is the French leader’s second visit to Brazil after a trip last year during which he signed several military contracts. Brazil’s Senate last week approved a bank loan of 6.1 billion euros that the government will use to build five submarines and 50 helicopters in partnership with France.

Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim and his French counterpart, Herve Morin, attended the meeting.

Sarkozy is accompanied by seven ministers including Finance Minister Christine Lagarde, Energy Minister Jean- Louis Borloo and Junior Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau. Serge Dassault, the former chairman of the defense contractor who pushed forward the Rafale project, is among the 25 French business leaders accompanying the President.

Brazil Moves Toward Buying Rafale Jets From Dassault (Update2) - Bloomberg.com

 

[illuminatus]

^^ Interesting development. I was unaware of this deal. That means that Gripen and F-18 have lost out in this Brazilian deal. The Rafale has finally got a customer. Who can blame the Brazilians though when extensive ToT is up for grabs. Will be interesting to see how this development affects the Rafale acquisition in ongoing tenders.

 

[pak-yes]

The fighter jet contract would be worth about 140 million euros for each plane

That's 200 million dollars for one plane even more expensive than raptor.Are Brazilians mad or is RAFALE better than RAPTOR.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

That's 200 million dollars for one plane even more expensive than raptor.Are Brazilians mad or is RAFALE better than RAPTOR.

Price written is wrong....

its 70 Million Euro for Rafale M, the carrier version
& 64 Million Euro for Rafale C

 

[TaimiKhan]

The Brazilian-Rafale deal has some level of ToT also, so include the price of ToT in the deal also, which overall would give a higher per aircraft price.

 

[Storm Force]

You can clealy see why PAF wonm,t even lookn at Typhoon & Rafael seriously with price tags of $100m each.

They can buy 3 J10 OR INDEED 6 JF17 thunders for one TYPHOON/ RAFAEL.

Those euro canards are great planes but for rich air forces withy big budgets $$$

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It would make no sense to spend 100 million on 1 plane , unless its a Stealth fighter plane -

12 JF17 thunder planes are equally capable than 9 euro planes, provided we compliment our planes with High end Missile (Air to Air)

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It would make no sense to spend 100 million on 1 plane , unless its a Stealth fighter plane -

12 JF17 thunder planes are equally capable than 9 euro planes, provided we compliment our planes with High end Missile (Air to Air)

Ref:****************/pakistan-buys-700-air-to-air-missiles-from-america-9505/

Pakistan is purchasing 500 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), the largest international order for this weapon, and 200 short-range AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles

This would likely be used on F16 , but 700 missiles are alot of missiles

 

[SBD-3]

Price written is wrong....

its 70 Million Euro for Rafale M, the carrier version
& 64 Million Euro for Rafale C

120 would include maintainence and infrastructure as well

 

[SBD-3]

They lost the Brazilian MMRCA contest, Rafale ruled....

Boeing offered F-18 but Brazilians didnt even approached Boeing for negotiations...

here is something that might be interesting for you
Brazil Embarking Upon F-X2 Fighter Program

 

[SBD-3]

They lost the Brazilian MMRCA contest, Rafale ruled....

Boeing offered F-18 but Brazilians didnt even approached Boeing for negotiations...

Leaked report: Brazilian air force 'wants Gripen'
Brazil's F-X2 fighter programme could be the subject of further delays, after a summary of the air force's 30,000-page evaluation report was leaked to one of the country's leading newspapers.

The Folha de São Paulo newspaper reported that the air force's F-X2 procurement programme committee has ranked Saab's Gripen NG as its first-choice candidate for the deal, initially for 36 aircraft, due to its lowest acquisition and operating costs. It is followed closely by Boeing's F/A-18E/F Super Hornet Block II.

The report confirms rumours that have been floating since October 2009 and heightens tensions between the air force and President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Late last year the Brazilian president stated his preference for the Dassault Rafale, which was reportedly ranked third by the service.

Air force sources have raised concerns that a decision could be deferred until after this year's presidential elections, or that the long-running fighter selection process could be postponed again.

Katsuhiko Tokunaga/Gripen International
© Katsuhiko Tokunaga/Gripen International

The leaked summary suggests that the F3-standard Rafale was ranked last because of its high purchase price and operating costs. A related technology transfer package - a key element of the F-X2 selection criteria - was also deemed inadequate, the report says. Embraer is believed to have shown little interest in participating in production of the Rafale, after it was offered the opportunity to manufacture the wings for Brazilian examples.

Saab claims that its Gripen NG proposal - which is backed by the governments of Sweden and the UK - will provide higher technology transfer yield for Brazilian companies. Selex Galileo on 5 January announced that it has signed a memorandum of understanding with local firm ATMOS Sistemas to develop active electronically scanned array radar technologies to Brazil.

Selex, which is developing its Vixen 1000E/Raven ES-05 for use with the Gripen NG, says the relationship could also cover AESA systems for other fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters and unmanned air vehicles.

Following the news report, the air force issued a statement saying that while its evaluation report of the fighters has been completed, it has not yet been forwarded to the defence ministry for assessment. A Dassault source says that such local press reports should be "handled with caution".

Although the F-X2 programme initially covers the purchase of 28 single-seat fighters and eight mission-capable trainers to equip three squadrons, it could eventually rise to up to 120 aircraft. The selected type will replace the air force's Alenia/Embraer AMX strike aircraft, upgraded Northrop F-5EM/FMs and Dassault Mirage 2000C fighters.