Joe Shearer
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Backing down doesn't mean they finally forget the China threat. it's just a matter of hard cold facts that NO ASEAN country have the muscle to challenge china, this is the exact reason why the US should actively seek to make more country more engaged in South China Sea, the US have secured it from major Indo-pac country like Japan,Australia,Canada and even major European power like UK and France have made a freedom of navigation in the South China Sea, adding india to the list will be perfect.
also malaysia haven't really bowed down to China, it continue to send frigate and patrol ship to monitor China trying to interfere with its oil exploration in south china sea. and compared to Indonesia for example, malaysia had control of many small islands in the South China sea
India have been making major effort to turn away Myanmar from China, the last time they donated Submarines and sell them torpedoes and Thailand is still militarily very close to US.
who asked??
Oh, he just thought a word was needed to clear the air. Honest little fellow.
You think Chinese wouldnt send a carrier to Indian Ocean if India decide to poke matter in SCS?
LOL. What, precisely, would the carrier do? Claim the Further Chinese Ocean in the name of the historical voyage of Zheng He?
We have so many geopolitical experts swarming around.
Why would u expect Cambodia to take action besides verbal backing of China in SCS? China has a powerful navy, it wouldnt even need its allies to take any action and China alone is more than enough to handle the whole SCS.
...thereby proving, beyond a shadow of doubt, that China only has friendly feelings towards all involved.
In fact under Duturte, Philippine are more clinging towards China. They reject continue a US base and Duturte even cause US former president Obama. At least , he managed to negotiate fishing right of Scarborough shoal for pinoy fishermen which previous Aquino not able to do so. Huge Chinese financial investment also help Philippine economy which Aquino not able to achieve previously.
An admirable alternative spelling to his name. Now you are only missing one letter.
Indeed, Indian know they shouldnt provoke China in SCS becos Indian do not wish to see a Chinese carrier in Indian Ocean.
It looks like there is a major threat coming up. Absolutely terrifying.
You are obviously shooting the target that is created by yourself, no one would knows even the slightest of how a country would have reacts in case your neighbor, so called allie, friend is in a conflict or war, so until then everything is assumption, or rubbish.
True. So if India sends a fleet into the South China Sea, by your explanation, you, as neighbours and so-called friends, may or may not do something. Everything is assumption until then, or rubbish.
I found your formulation very useful.
These rag tag destitute Indians should worry about their 600 Million people LIVING BELOW POVERTY LINES. They have no business in South China Sea. Let the two Superpowers US and China fight it out.
Indeed we should. As for you, you didn't go there to promote Pakistan, so why don't you go and tend to your sheep?
As if Indonesia going close to Australia or US got any real benefit? Especially someone trying to fuel independent of province of Indonesia. Do you approved such action? Continue western double standard in judging indonesia. Needed only Indonesia for anti-China matter but when not needed. Curse as outcast and slaughter by western media as inhuman.
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...s-four-australians-for-demonstrating-in-papua
Indonesia deports four Australians for demonstrating in Papua
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-03/australian-journalist-expelled-from-papua/9393520
An Australian journalist has been expelled from the Indonesian province of Papua after her tweets angered the military.
Are you getting excited? Over-wrought? Tensed up, perhaps? Your language demonstrates some stresses and strains. Have you checked your clothing sizes lately?
well that's brilliant, if you send your carrier to IOR, then there will be less PLAN assets in SCS, India is for one of the must be list of Allies if the US wanted to have an overmatch whenever conflicts arise with china.
You are dealing with a fan-boy; it is not required for them to think. Anything aggravating to the poster being answered will do.
The US navy is more powerful and btw its your pakistani friend that suggest that SE Asian countries will do something about it
Now you are well on the way to making a permanent enemy. You are NOT ALLOWED to say these things.
India don't need to send ships to the Indian Ocean, it just need to keep an eye on Chinese activity in IOR and maybe some intelligence sharing
Just imagine the PLAN sends a carrier task force, with planes it can't fly, and a carrier that it has never operated in war before. Imagine the language of the admiral in charge when he has an Indian missile-carrying ship just out of hailing distance shadowing the task force 24 hours around the clock. Think of the differential loss of one carrier task force against one missile-carrying ship, either a destroyer or even a frigate. Or even a corvette, for that matter.
The language of the Chinese admiral would rapidly become as comprehensible as a fan-boy post.
duterte is what you called a populist, where are those chinese investemnt that he promised??? it must be less worthy than Chinese investment in Indonesia (a country that actually challenged china instead of plain giving up like duterte)
also it's good to know that the sentiment is rising towards him, and many have started to look at him more as a chinese minions than a true president of the Philippines all thanks to Mr.Max montero of Maxdefence. I'm not saying that he will lose the next election, but just for you to know that Duterte is not there forever, if he's gone your man in Manila is also gone. even though duterte is pro china, most of it's people and it's military (which many have deep ties with the US)is not.
But...but...but what about Manila Bay? and historical Filipino hatred for the US for defeating its colonial masters?
well it's not like we are going to fight side b side with the US marines in a future island hopping campaign. it's more like this. Indonesia downgrade it's ties politcally and economically with China while the US as a goodwill provide us with wepaons just to make a potential chinese misadventure more complicated.
How unfriendly! When all the PLAN wanted to do was to ensure the fishing rights of Chinese fishing boats a mile off Indonesian islands. What are the Indonesians planning to do with all that fish?
Duturte speaks the mind of ordinary Pinoy. Duturte is inclined more towards people of Philippines than elite of Philippines who is more pro US.
There is a reason why he is elected and a popular president. He fight drugs and help to shape Philippine economy.
US colonised Philippine for half a century and break the promise they agree when they took them from Spanish. This is something Pinoy will never forget. There is reason why US military are hated and US base are not allowed to continue.
You must know that the ordinary Pinoy runs the Philippines, not the elite. This has been decided by the Internet community, and is now official fact.
China doesn't need to challenge India in the South China Sea when they can do it in the Indian Ocean.
What challenge would that be? Stop sea lines of communications, maybe? Something substantial like that? Or just sail a flotilla up, and then sail it down?