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China Tastes RAW Deal In Tibet
Published : May 02, 2008
By: Makhdoom Babar Sultan


A few kilometers to the north of the Indian city of Dharamshala, 200 to 300 Tibetan women and men are being trained in ‘self defense’ by the special operations division of RAW, the Indian intelligence service. Tibetan students who join get extra marks at Indian schools as an incentive. New Delhi’s declared policy is to peacefully settle disputes with Beijing. This special investigation sheds light on India’s secret policy toward China, which is getting a ‘RAW deal’ in Tibet.


By MAKHDOOM BABAR

Friday, 2 May 2008.

Ahmed Quraishi-Pakistan/Middle East politics, Iraq war, lebanon war, India Pakistan relations


(Additional reporting by Christina Palmer and Sally Stewart in New Delhi, Sandra Johnson in Washington DC, Alec Smith in London and Meerza Arsalan in Nepal)

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—While the Chinese government is trying to sort out all its disputes with India through dialogue, the Indian intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has adopted a contrary stance on the directions of Delhi and is going all out to destabilize and defame China through a variety of plans and the recent wave of riots in Tibet was one of these plans, reveal the findings of The Daily Mail’s investigations.



The Daily Mail’s investigations unearth that RAW has established a terrorist training camp, 25 kilometers, north of the Indian border town of Dharamshala, a place where Indian government is hosting a so-called government in exile led by the wily Tibetan monk, Dalai Lama.



At this camp, RAW’s Special Operations Division trains young Tibetan males and females about carrying out subversive acts and the use of small and big arms and ammunitions, self immolation and even suicide attacks on the pattern of Japanese Hara Kari and how to organize mob attacks on short notice.



These investigations indicate that RAW, under the cover of a so-called NGO, named Raksha (The Defense) established a self defense training facility at a small building at Dharamshala downtown, a few years back. The facility offered short courses on self defense, with a duration of six to eight weeks. In the beginning, only local Indian boys and girls were admitted to this institution and were trained about self defense tactics. However, with the passage of time, Dharamshala-based Tibetan youngsters were also offered admission. In the meantime, the facility was shifted from Dharamshala to some 25 kilometers to the north at a deserted place in the woods. It is learned that at the said facility there are some 200 to 300 young Tibetans now, getting ‘Self Defense’ training with no local Indian students at all.



It was further revealed that all the Tibetans getting terrorist training at this RAW establishment are given 10 extra marks at government run schools, colleges and universities across India.



Despite the cover of an NGO, common people are not authorized to enter the camp premises and any aspiring journalist has to go through a complicated process to carry out a visit to the facility. The movement near the facility became monitored and difficult after a U.S. satellite spotted the camp with the presence of arms and ammunition dumps and other explosives and later this news found some place in a leading U.S. magazine, though, surely by ‘mistake’ some time last year.


The Daily Mail’s investigations indicate that the activities at this terrorist training camp of RAW received a boost recently when the facility was placed under the command of the chief of RAW’s Special Operations Division (SOD), Chotta Rajan.



Rajan is actually commanding similar camps in Afghanistan since 2001 but was given the additional duty of managing the Dharamshala camp as well. After SOD took full command of this camp, the number of both the trainers and trainees considerably increased. Our findings reveal that after being placed under command SOD, some female shooting experts, belonging to a militant Hindu extremist organization, Durga Vahini, were also inducted amongst the training staff at the camp.



In December 2007, SOD chief Chotta Rajan organized a ‘Special Training Course’ on the snow covered hills of Dhauladhar Ranges.



At this sub-camp, young Tibetans were given special training for operations in snow covered areas and they were also trained to face the extreme climatic conditions during operations.


It is learned further that the number of registered Tibetan youngsters at this camp increased dramatically after some top RAW officials held meetings with the President of Tibetan Youth Congress, Mr. Tsewang Rigzin at Kangra. These meetings were held at Dharamkot, Dalhousi and New Delhi at different occasions during 2007.



It is learned further that the Tibetan Youth Congress was founded and is being comprehensively sponsored by RAW. The Daily Mail’s findings indicate that the basic aim of RAW behind establishing this setup at Dharamshala was to initiate an insurgency movement in Tibet to engage the Chinese government and then, at stage two, to initiate a comprehensive separatist movement in China’s Xinjiang province through the terrorist East Turkistan Islamic Movement via Afghanistan and Pakistan (A special Investigative report over this issue would be published in The Daily Mail very soon).


The Tibet plan was initially a long term project. But last year, New Delhi ordered RAW to come up with a short term plan to tarnish China’s image across the globe in order to jeopardize Beijing’s hosting of the Olympic Games of 2008.



It is understood that these directions from New Delhi came in comprehensive connivance of certain anti-China forces in the West.



Responding to this given task, RAW straight away moved its SOD and assigned the duties to the SOD Chief.


It is learned that March 10, 2008, was fixed as a target date to initiate the master plan, code named ‘Operation Ashes on Snow.’ The training was launched on war footing and according to reports, from August 2007 to February 2008, RAW’s SOD succeeded in preparing at least 3000 to 5000 young Tibetan Chinese, inhabiting in Indian territories to create trouble in Tibet.


They were trained in different groups with different methodologies and to operate in different fields. It is learned that they were trained to carry out large scale and small scale subversive activities, plain and bus hijackings, kidnappings, firing with small arms weapons, bomb making, bombing and also suicide bombing while training of outrageous violent protests and mob attacks and ransacking was part of the Common Training Program for all groups. According to some reports, the SOD officials carried out these training programs on the pattern of the programs that RAW used for the training of Maoist rebels in Nepal and LTTE militants in Sri Lanka in the 1980s.


It is learned that some 500 specially trained operatives were sent to Tibet in the third week of February 2008 while 2 senior SOD officials also infiltrated in the area in the vicinity of Tibet to monitor the functioning of the trained operatives.



These operatives were given different tasks, in accordance with their training programs, however, the first and the basic task for all the groups was to organize mob assaults, violent protest rallies and to carry out small scale subversive action. They were also tasked to generate more and more like-minded youngsters.



Back in India, the arrangements were made to organize protest rallies at Delhi and Dharamshala.



At New Delhi, in a bid to ward off potential Chinese anger and show Indian neutrality, Indian authorities ordered the police to baton-charge and disperse the protesting Tibetans when they tried to attack the embassy of the People’s Republic of China in New Delhi.


However, on the other side, the Superintendent of Police of Kangra, the Indian district that is home to the town of Dharamshala, was ordered to escort and accommodate the anti-China rallies by Tibetans in his area.



The Daily Mail’s findings further reveal that television crews of a leading U.S. and a famous British TV Channel, along with some select correspondents of British, American, French, German and Japanese news agencies and newspapers were flown to Gaggal Airport of district Kangra through special arrangements just one night before the protest rallies were held at Dharamshala.


It is believed that this is just the beginning of the RAW deal for China via Tibet and the trained “operatives are bound to carry out more operations in different parts of China in the coming few months. RAW’ Operation Ashes on Snow is over. Many more are in the pipeline.
 
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Frankly, when I started reading this post, I was grinning end-to-end. I mean I never thought RAW could be this good.

Then, when I read the words "command of the chief of RAW’s Special Operations Division (SOD), Chotta Rajan," I realized what a piece of propaganda this is. Just google "Chotta Rajan," and you’ll find enough hits to prove this article wrong.

With regard to RAW’s activities in Tibet, it could be true that we are "training" Tibetans. However, to what extent is that true and also what is the nature of that "training," I do not know. I won’t go by this article, for it is nothing but propaganda.

As far as the issue of "China seeking to solve all issues with India in a peaceful manner" is concerned, please read this.

Tip of Sikkim is latest India-China flashpoint
 
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The Daily Mail’s investigations indicate that the activities at this terrorist training camp of RAW received a boost recently when the facility was placed under the command of the chief of RAW’s Special Operations Division (SOD), Chotta Rajan.


Chotta rajan in RAW!!!:rofl:

What a pathetic piece of commie propaganda BS.:blah:
 
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It wouldnt take much of a retaliation to break India into a few pieces so they should reconsider their support secessionist movements in neighbouring countries.
Khalistan, Assam etc just need an opportunity to happen.
 
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It wouldnt take much of a retaliation to break India into a few pieces so they should reconsider their support secessionist movements in neighbouring countries.
Khalistan, Assam etc just need an opportunity to happen.

Oh you mean there is no attempt already being made by Pakistan and China?
 
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Humorous to say the least.

But then 23 March specialise in such stuff!
 
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It wouldnt take much of a retaliation to break India into a few pieces so they should reconsider their support secessionist movements in neighbouring countries.
Khalistan, Assam etc just need an opportunity to happen.

Of course, many nations are trying their best to do so.

But India chugs on!

Good see how frustrating it is becoming for some that their best efforts are coming to nought!
 
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It wouldnt take much of a retaliation to break India into a few pieces so they should reconsider their support secessionist movements in neighbouring countries.
Khalistan, Assam etc just need an opportunity to happen.

Firstly, the article's credibility is very much under doubt.

Secondly, such proxy wars (segregationist movements) are fought by one and ll, including India, Pakistan, PRC, USA, UK, Israel, etc. However, few ever succeed or gain "notice."

Thirdly, with regard to Khalistan and "Assam," my interactions with Sikhs and Assamese have led me to conclude that they are very much Indian.
 
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I am always amazed at how humours you guys find articles like these. They are meant to be debated btw. And not a single Indian here can debate this subject without retorting to complete denial, personal attacks, more denials and changing the subject to the tactics of other countries.

Seriously guys, this is an internet forum. If you accept the problems exist, it wont change a thing. Its purely for the purposes of understanding and debating. If you are going to deny like always, just dont bother posting. Its getting tiring to read the copy and paste responses.

So lets start again, How are the Assamese culturally the same as most Indians? And what do you plan on doing about the Sikhs demanding justice and/or a separate state? BJP(was it them?) declared Sikhism another branch of Hinduism, and it fuelled the fire further. Just looking for comments here.
 
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I am always amazed at how humours you guys find articles like these. They are meant to be debated btw. And not a single Indian here can debate this subject without retorting to complete denial, personal attacks, more denials and changing the subject to the tactics of other countries.

Seriously guys, this is an internet forum. If you accept the problems exist, it wont change a thing. Its purely for the purposes of understanding and debating. If you are going to deny like always, just dont bother posting. Its getting tiring to read the copy and paste responses.

So lets start again, How are the Assamese culturally the same as most Indians? And what do you plan on doing about the Sikhs demanding justice and/or a separate state? BJP(was it them?) declared Sikhism another branch of Hinduism, and it fuelled the fire further. Just looking for comments here.

The Assamese are culturally same as most Indians since culturally no Indian is the same!

Each community has its own culture.

That is why the motto of India is ''Unity in Diversity".

Therefore, your first premise that India is culturally the same, is false!

Sikhs are or not are a offshoot of Hinduism or not is not very material, except to those who wish to deny or advocate a link.

There are religious, linguistic and cultural distinctiveness which can be fanned by any element inimical to India. That is no big deal.

What is a big deal is that notwithstanding the extensive effort of forces inimical to India, it still survives as One and what is astonishing, is that it has progressed rapidly inspite of that!!
 
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The Assamese are culturally same as most Indians since culturally no Indian is the same!

Each community has its own culture.

That is why the motto of India is ''Unity in Diversity".

Therefore, your first premise that India is culturally the same, is false!

Sikhs are or not are a offshoot of Hinduism or not is not very material, except to those who wish to deny or advocate a link.

There are religious, linguistic and cultural distinctiveness which can be fanned by any element inimical to India. That is no big deal.

What is a big deal is that notwithstanding the extensive effort of forces inimical to India, it still survives as One and what is astonishing, is that it has progressed rapidly inspite of that!!

Ok, I understand all that diversity stuff, but lets address the problem here. The Assamese are fighting against you. Surely they have a different perspective of things. Fighting them back wont solve this problem, and labelling them terrorists will make the problem much worse. Are there any plans to help them preserve their own culture, since they obviously are not happy about the main stream culture corrupting theirs?

Also, 10s of 1000s of Sikhs are still in prisons today for the 1984 incident. A sense of justice and restoration of pride wont be achieved if they remain there. What about lifting the censorship from media trying to address that problem? Will there be any progress on those fronts?

In Pakistan there is an obvious BLA problem and our media is certainly not denying it. We have several projects like Gwadar on the way to give them what they asked for, hence BLA ideology is not mainstream. Our Gov even insured them that other Pakistanis wont be able to benefit from Gwadar as much as the Baluch. i.e they will be given priority. Still, our current Gov goes on to release their borderline psycho leaders in hopes of talking to them. Basically I consider this progress and not denying the issue.
 
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The Assamese are culturally same as most Indians since culturally no Indian is the same!

Each community has its own culture.

That is why the motto of India is ''Unity in Diversity".

Therefore, your first premise that India is culturally the same, is false!

Sikhs are or not are a offshoot of Hinduism or not is not very material, except to those who wish to deny or advocate a link.

There are religious, linguistic and cultural distinctiveness which can be fanned by any element inimical to India. That is no big deal.

What is a big deal is that notwithstanding the extensive effort of forces inimical to India, it still survives as One and what is astonishing, is that it has progressed rapidly inspite of that!!
:what: wtf?
H_018DYanIo[/media] - Shocking Asia: Poverty on the Ghats/ Sadhus and Siddhis
 
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Ok, I understand all that diversity stuff, but lets address the problem here. The Assamese are fighting against you. Surely they have a different perspective of things. Fighting them back wont solve this problem, and labelling them terrorists will make the problem much worse. Are there any plans to help them preserve their own culture, since they obviously are not happy about the main stream culture corrupting theirs?

The Assamese are not fighting against India. It is the ULFA. On a far less in volatility than in the insurgent areas of Pakistan (just to help you understand the intensity). It is on and off type of a situation.

Their culture is in no way being diminished. In fact, the various cultures of India are encouraged and there are cultural troupes of each state which perform around India.

It is not that Assamese have a different perspective, all communities have different perspectives.

There is nothing like a mainstream culture. What is the mainstream culture?

Also, 10s of 1000s of Sikhs are still in prisons today for the 1984 incident. A sense of justice and restoration of pride wont be achieved if they remain there. What about lifting the censorship from media trying to address that problem? Will there be any progress on those fronts?

I am not aware of this.

But even if they are, which I doubt, you exaggerate with sensationalism.

In Pakistan there is an obvious BLA problem and our media is certainly not denying it. We have several projects like Gwadar on the way to give them what they asked for, hence BLA ideology is not mainstream. Our Gov even insured them that other Pakistanis wont be able to benefit from Gwadar as much as the Baluch. i.e they will be given priority. Still, our current Gov goes on to release their borderline psycho leaders in hopes of talking to them. Basically I consider this progress and not denying the issue.

I really don't think that there is any mainstream culture in Pakistan either. Each community I am sure has its own culture.

Though it is said that the Punjabi culture dominates. Fortunately, such a phenomenon is not there in India.
 
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Who are amongst the richest in the world?

How about a You Tube on that?

You have to see the overall growth of the country.

A drain inspector will always be enamoured by the contents of a drain and he will not understand the full body of wine or honey!!

Therefore, the YouTube does not impress.

A YouTube show of Hira Mandi does not mean that is Pakistan!

Anyone who feels that it does, is merely a foolish person, who wallows in fil.th and canards.
 
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I am always amazed at how humours you guys find articles like these. They are meant to be debated btw. And not a single Indian here can debate this subject without retorting to complete denial, personal attacks, more denials and changing the subject to the tactics of other countries.

Seriously guys, this is an internet forum. If you accept the problems exist, it wont change a thing. Its purely for the purposes of understanding and debating. If you are going to deny like always, just dont bother posting. Its getting tiring to read the copy and paste responses.

So lets start again, How are the Assamese culturally the same as most Indians? And what do you plan on doing about the Sikhs demanding justice and/or a separate state? BJP(was it them?) declared Sikhism another branch of Hinduism, and it fuelled the fire further. Just looking for comments here.

You talk about "cutting" my country into pieces based on an article that in all likelihood is not credible, and then follow it up be preaching the dos and don'ts of serious internet debates? Giving into the benefit of doubt, here is my response.

As far as culture is concerned, Assamese have their own. So do Gujaratis, Sindhis, Marathis, Punjabis, Tamils, and so on and so forth. But they do have something in common—a belief in India as a nation.

As far as Sikhs are concerned, I’m yet to come across a Sikh who believes in separation from India. And I’ve traveled immensely in Punjab. Honestly, I haven't heard the BJP say anything like that; I've also not heard any "reaction." By the way, Punjab is one of the richest states of India.

I would have given a more detailed reply, but I'll be repeating what Salim has said.
 
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